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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 07:12 GMT
#874
Only thing that makes me hesitate is that there are some other really good town roles that could be super fun, they just mean I get NK'd instead of lynched :\
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 07:13 GMT
#876
On January 20 2016 16:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Whats my alignment Keirathi?

You literally haven't posted anything. I'm not a mind reader.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 07:14 GMT
#877
On January 20 2016 16:13 geript wrote:
Either way. CPR doc must claim it ahead of time. That's a role town must know where it is.

Ya, I have school from 12 until deadline tomorrow, so if I'm going to take CPR I'll definitely say it in thread before i leave for school.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 07:56 GMT
#883
On January 20 2016 16:23 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 16:14 Keirathi wrote:
On January 20 2016 16:13 geript wrote:
Either way. CPR doc must claim it ahead of time. That's a role town must know where it is.

Ya, I have school from 12 until deadline tomorrow, so if I'm going to take CPR I'll definitely say it in thread before i leave for school.

Ok well booh but whatever. Who do you want to lynch.

If I had to pick a lynch right this second?

Someone out of Damdred (for reasons I said), maybe Onegu (I think town Onegu would have probably tried to contest me for 1,1. It's weird that he didn't), maybe Cephiro pending reading some of his other games, maybe Cake for the random reads that felt kinda forced.

Then there's the whole host of people who haven't said anything like Vivax, GB, Alot, VA.

But there's still 60+ hours left. There's plenty of time to think about ti more and see what they have to say.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 08:10 GMT
#887
On January 20 2016 16:57 Palmar wrote:
There's something about Keir that I just absolutely hate.


Ouch, man. Hate is a strong word


On January 20 2016 16:57 Palmar wrote:
After all this arguments about CPR doc I think we make superbia pick it. No one is throwing any shade on him being a townread. I think of all the people that aren't me I trust him most and he has pick #2.


I could probably get behind this, though. I definitely trust him more than you and geript.

Anyways like I said, I'll say for sure what I'm doing before I go to school tomorrow. Will give 6+ hours for people to change their roles if needed.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 16:57 GMT
#1050
If superbia is taking cpr doc, then I'm going to random between one of Moriarty, Link, and House.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 17:24 GMT
#1066
On January 21 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 01:58 Palmar wrote:
On January 21 2016 01:57 Keirathi wrote:
If superbia is taking cpr doc, then I'm going to random between one of Moriarty, Link, and House.

No, you're going to tell us which one you take.

Like I want everyone to understand how terrible it'd be for town if he doesn't tell us because that means townies will be guessing and risking not getting the thing.

Keirathi is 100% mafia.

Holy shitballs get your panties out of a wad. I didn't say I wasn't going to say what role I was taking, I just said I would random between them.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 17:40 GMT
#1069
I'm not bullshitting, I'm just not at home so I'm phonepoating.

And what the fuck is my mafia motivation for making that post, if we assume that I am actually going to say what I picked? Hint: there's not one. Quit being dumb.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 20:01 GMT
#1121
RNG has spoken. I'm sending in House.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 22:09 GMT
#1213
On January 21 2016 04:32 Palmar wrote:
Keirathi: I have strong suspicion he is mafia. I do not believe he is posting posts because he wants some information out there, he's just posting to post. I think there is very little information in his filter. I do not believe his post about randoming between 3 roles is genuine and I don't believe his response to my accusation is good. I also don't believe his excuse that "I'm playing a PYP game so I'll pick whatever I please" to not follow along with town plans is any good. In fact, he could have taken the much better route of "hey Palmar, I'll follow along, but I'd really liek to play one of these, is that ok?". No he's forcing confrontation and being a stubborn asshole.

If he wants to play along, I want him to take the Gambler. In any case, he is going to have a strong role and should be an early lynch target.


I literally said with my first post of the game I was picking 1,1. Then I said in my first post after the draft order was announced that I was picking one of Moriarty, CPR, Link, or Nigella. Soon after I dropped Nigella and added House instead.

Then you're like "No, you're picking gambler or dreamflower." You didn't try to talk to me or anything, you just decided I was picking one of those roles. I said I refuse to, and I was still planning to pick one of the ones I mentioned.

Instead of working around that, you keep calling me scum a bunch, then put me in the list and tell me to take gambler again. Despite the fact that i even compromised on CPR and let Superbia take it.

So, yea, I'm being a stubborn asshole because you didn't try to work with me, you wanted to force me tot ake a role I said I refused to pick.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 22:45 GMT
#1262
On January 21 2016 07:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I mean, we can force him to use the role right?
So I shouldn't be too worried and it should be fine if he gets it regardless, but Kei is still picking House which doesn't leave me with much.

You're one of my strongest town reads. Maybe you could take something that's awful if scum gets it and just not use it?

Or if you want to play something fun/actually useful, just regular Doctor could be quite good, especially the weak variant. 1:1 trade is pretty strong.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 22:48 GMT
#1265
On January 21 2016 07:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
He thinks Palmar is scum and then immediately drops it when he gets a good role.

Come on.

And the fact that he's so positive that I'm town. He's been buddying me super hard and it gives me the heebiejeebies.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 22:59 GMT
#1279
Damdred is picking Nigella. If OWS was behind Damdred, I would 100% say to pick it because if Damdred if mafia, it's a pretty weak mafia role so he might just not pick it and it's pretty unlikely anyone else would check it. But meh.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 23:07 GMT
#1290
On January 21 2016 08:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Like, compared to Moriarty, how strong is Nigella in town hands?

Depends on what the skills do, really. Especially Restoration/Immunity.

But the full trio of Moriarty/Watson/Sherlock together is pretty powerful too. Hard to judge which is better without knowing exactly what Nigella can do :\
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 23:10 GMT
#1300
On January 21 2016 08:08 Palmar wrote:
nigella, sy n tist and roles like that are mafia favored


I think Nigella is probably a way stronger town role than mafia role, but probably still good in mafia hands?

Like, it has Watcher, what's probably some kind of Cop, a doc, etc all rolled into one. It's basically a JoaT role, but maybe has some uses for mafia too.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 23:16 GMT
#1320
On January 21 2016 08:11 Palmar wrote:
When I find out which people among those who are just ignoring me (kita, damdred, keirathi etc) are town there's going to be some rage postgame.


Do you think I'm an awful player? Do I know how to read the game, make arguments, use roles effectively, etc? If yes, then why not let me take what I want to take when all of the roles I picked are STRICTLY PRO-TOWN ROLES.

I want to win the game. I can be more useful to winning the game by picking House than picking Gambler which I have no interest in playing.

So yea, rage if you want to, but I'm not going to feel bad for being arrogant enough to think that I'm good at the game and wanting to play a fun role instead of a bullshit boring one just because you told me to.

My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 23:28 GMT
#1339
On January 21 2016 08:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 08:16 Keirathi wrote:
On January 21 2016 08:11 Palmar wrote:
When I find out which people among those who are just ignoring me (kita, damdred, keirathi etc) are town there's going to be some rage postgame.


Do you think I'm an awful player? Do I know how to read the game, make arguments, use roles effectively, etc? If yes, then why not let me take what I want to take when all of the roles I picked are STRICTLY PRO-TOWN ROLES.

I want to win the game. I can be more useful to winning the game by picking House than picking Gambler which I have no interest in playing.

So yea, rage if you want to, but I'm not going to feel bad for being arrogant enough to think that I'm good at the game and wanting to play a fun role instead of a bullshit boring one just because you told me to.


One of us is doing what he wants.

The other has a comprehensive plan for everyone in town to follow.

Both are asking each other to just trust.

Why should it be me that has to trust you? I'd be fine if someone else had bothered to do the work I've done. But I'm the only one that did it, so I think that should give me additional control.

I am going to lynch you because you're mafia.

You don't have to trust me. In fact, I'm not even asking you to trust me.

That doesn't mean I have to trust you either, though. Not that I don't. I do think you're probably town. But I also think you're perfectly capable of being tryhard as scum.

Your alignment doesn't have anything to do with why I refused to pick your designated role though. I refused to pick your designated role because it's ass. I said that I thought defensive roles were extremely good for town, and I was going to pick one Link/Moriarty/House and I did.

You can bitch about that all you want. Even lynch me for it if you can. Still doesn't make me scum, or make me feel bad for doing the right thing.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 23:30 GMT
#1341
On January 21 2016 08:19 Palmar wrote:
Also CPR doc is not a strictly town role. It's fantastic for mafia )))

Obviously I was talking about after I decided to let Superbia pick CPR.

For the last ~12 hours I've been saying I was going to take one of Link, House, or Moriarty.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 21 2016 00:29 GMT
#1431
On January 21 2016 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred - The only reason I put Damdred on this list is because I had him as scum earlier. He probably isn't - I think his backtrack on his role choice (which was abrupt and would have infuriated anyone) was relatively townie, and his decision to move to doctor seemed very natural based on what was happening.
.


I mean, what would you expect him to do if he is scum? If you're already picking his role, he can either play nice and switch, or random into mysterious and be vengeful and probably get lynched for it. The smart thing to do as town OR scum would be to switch I think.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 21 2016 00:36 GMT
#1441
On January 21 2016 09:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 09:29 Keirathi wrote:
On January 21 2016 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred - The only reason I put Damdred on this list is because I had him as scum earlier. He probably isn't - I think his backtrack on his role choice (which was abrupt and would have infuriated anyone) was relatively townie, and his decision to move to doctor seemed very natural based on what was happening.
.


I mean, what would you expect him to do if he is scum? If you're already picking his role, he can either play nice and switch, or random into mysterious and be vengeful and probably get lynched for it. The smart thing to do as town OR scum would be to switch I think.


Let me elaborate a bit since this seems skin deep:
I think Damdred's emotions were far more telling wrt his alignment rather than what he, on the surface, did.

His demeanor changed rather dramatically when people started reigning him in and telling him why doctor was a good pick for him, which seemed townie. I don't think scum!Damdred would change his outlook like that that quickly - it seemed like a real person reacting to a situation in exactly how I would expect him to act.

Ohhh, gotcha. Not that he changed his pick, but that his demeanor changed.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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