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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:36 GMT
#636
On January 20 2016 09:35 Breshke wrote:
Palmar im not sure if GB should be on your list. I feel like its very possible he didn't submit a number or when he did whoever he overlapped with hadn't claimed yet based on when he was active.

Don't really care. He's completely afk which means he probably should be shot.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:37 GMT
#637
It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible

so please don't be dicks with what you're picking.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:39 GMT
#640
are faction kp roleblockable?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:41 GMT
#648
On January 20 2016 09:40 Cephiro wrote:
I will be going for a mysterious challenger role.

which one?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:42 GMT
#651
I don't really want you picking dreamflower superbia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:46 GMT
#658
Essentially I'm trying to work on a list of roles that can be assigned to people.

The thing is, some roles are mostly harmless in the hands of mafia (for example gambler, dreamflower, house) and others we definitely want in trusted town hands (link, cpr doc, arrow)
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:47 GMT
#660
On January 20 2016 09:45 Cephiro wrote:
I was thinking of blocking Kenpachi, Blazinghand, Pick Your Power Picker, leaving me one of...

Mirror Man, Cyrus, Windrunner, Shovel Knight

Whatever I'll get is whatever I'll get.

correct me if I'm wrong, but don't people roll mysterious challenger roles if they get vanilla townied (ie: pick a role that's already been picked)

if that's the case, do you mind picking a random role that should have been picked before you on our list, and thus be pushed to mysterious challenger?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:49 GMT
#663
On January 20 2016 09:48 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:47 Palmar wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:45 Cephiro wrote:
I was thinking of blocking Kenpachi, Blazinghand, Pick Your Power Picker, leaving me one of...

Mirror Man, Cyrus, Windrunner, Shovel Knight

Whatever I'll get is whatever I'll get.

correct me if I'm wrong, but don't people roll mysterious challenger roles if they get vanilla townied (ie: pick a role that's already been picked)

if that's the case, do you mind picking a random role that should have been picked before you on our list, and thus be pushed to mysterious challenger?


You can also choose to be a mysterious challenger and then remove up to 3 roles from the mysterious challenger pool.

well I don't really care if ceph doesn't get to block 3 roles so /shrug
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:49 GMT
#665
How certain are we keirathi is town? (I'm going to filter him right now, answer while I do it pls).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:53 GMT
#672
On January 20 2016 09:51 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:36 Palmar wrote:
Also @everyone does anyone particularly feel like being a "check"?

IE: a check is a person who picks a random role from a list assigned to people above him OR we assign the check to pick a random mafia favored role to make sure someone else doesn't have it.


Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote:
It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible


The second statement is obviously true, so why would we waste a decent role to check that a garbage role wasn't chosen? Having a town janitor that verifies that the mafia didn't grab janitor is far less useful than another town doc or something.

the latter is more for people very low on the list.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:54 GMT
#673
On January 20 2016 09:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:49 Palmar wrote:
How certain are we keirathi is town? (I'm going to filter him right now, answer while I do it pls).


He's in my lean town list. Though tbh he's only there bc of activity + my town has called him town. Needs some looking into.

I just read his filter and I don't like it. I want to force him into a role.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:54 GMT
#676
On January 20 2016 09:52 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:45 sicklucker wrote:
why did koshi and ceperio overlap? im amusing you did it to block koshi? thats the only logical explanation


Pretty much. I figured since I'm aiming for a partially random role it's fairly likely I'll get it anyway, and I remembered just a bit before deadline that I might as well knock someone down a bit while still keeping myself at a fairly high pick.

Just checked a few filters I hadn't been too fond of hastily and decided to bump him a bit. Intentionally took 3,2 instead of 3,1 so he'd get the pick before me in case people were gonna make a fuss about it.

I mean more than one third of the game is mafia, so I figured it's not too unlikely I'll hit one even if I haven't been paying the most attention to the thread so far.

I'm really sceptical about the overall thread presence and people trying to lead, and until someone shows extremely surefire signs of being the clearest of clear town, I'm not very eager to co-operate. Not really keen on giving scum any control over my actions, in the worst case.

ok this guy is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 00:55 GMT
#677
On January 20 2016 09:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:53 Palmar wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:51 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:36 Palmar wrote:
Also @everyone does anyone particularly feel like being a "check"?

IE: a check is a person who picks a random role from a list assigned to people above him OR we assign the check to pick a random mafia favored role to make sure someone else doesn't have it.


On January 20 2016 09:37 Palmar wrote:
It's in town's best favor to have as many roles we control in the game as possible


The second statement is obviously true, so why would we waste a decent role to check that a garbage role wasn't chosen? Having a town janitor that verifies that the mafia didn't grab janitor is far less useful than another town doc or something.

the latter is more for people very low on the list.


Low row can still pick up a bunch of decent roles. Plus just draft the kitaman27 role if you need a check. It tells you who took it. :/

had no idea that existed. Let's do that at some point then. It's a very good low role if we start suspecting some shitty mafia role is in the game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 01:00 GMT
#686
no he knew it, but his reasoning for knocking koshi down is overexplaining nothing.

It's like if someone smashes his face into a door while drunk and then writes a ph.d. essay on it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 01:10 GMT
#692
Before I go to sleep, this is the outline of a plan that I'm slowly formulating, it's not very well thought through yet, mostly because I don't really know most of the roles, but here goes:

1. Keirathi - Trust level quite low: Force to pick gambler or dreamflower
2. Superbia - Trust level high. Should probably pick Link
3. ObiWanShinobi - Trust level moderate. I'd be okay with any investigative role here
4. Rels - Trust level moderate, investigative or KP role is good
5. Palmar - Trust level highest. I'll either pick CPR doc or arrow
6. geript - Trust level fairly high. I want him on an investigative role I think
7. Breshke - Trust level quite low. Force to pick protective
8. Koshi - Crazy, can't deal with him probably
9. Cephiro - Scum. Force into a completely neutered scumrole pls (like pure investigative or df/gambler)
10. kitaman27 - Trust level low to moderate. Good for a protective role
11. Vivax - Scum (force to pick dreamflower or gambler?)
12. Tictock - idk
13. disformation - low trust
14. Fecalfeast - low trust
15. Damdred - moderate trust, but not too much.
16. AlotSomuch - low trust
17. VayneAuthority - low trust
18. The Shining - low trust
19. Onegu - dumbass, can't deal with him
20. Sicklucker - Trust level high. either use him as a check, or get him kita, or get him a good role by forcing it to drop
21. Copcake - Whatever, preferably we try to force her into a role
22. GlowingBear - Whatever, preferably we try to force him into a role

the bunch of people with low trust in the bottom half on the list should probably try to grab PROTECTIVE or INVESTIGATIVE roles.

I will revise my list of people I trust later on in the game, but I will not accept any excuse for people picking KP roles unless they're on my trusted list. Current people I'd trust with KP are:

Superbia
Me
geript
sicklucker

I need 2-3 more names on this list.

How to get onto the list? there's two options

1. Post well and play well so I townread you.

2. Someone else (a third party) makes a good argument for you being town.

If anyone has a problem with anyone on my trust list, then let me know.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 01:11 GMT
#694
On January 20 2016 10:02 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:58 sicklucker wrote:
Ya ceph is definitely mafia. Theres no way he didnt know koshi was picking 3 and he wanted to overlap on purpose . I played with him before and hes not retarded


I agree, I'm not. But based on your understanding of my post, I'm not so sure about you.

Which part of my post where I said I intentionally did it, did you not read?

Why should I suddenly start following Palmar who hasn't done much to make me believe he's town, and let him take full control over what everyone should do? Screw that.

Because you just should.

Like you absolutely should 100% follow me if you're town, and your best bet at not being killed early this game is to do as you're told. You have no pull in the thread and you've barely read the game (by your own admittance).

So please, don't be a fucking cowboy, fall in line.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 01:14 GMT
#698
On January 20 2016 10:13 Cephiro wrote:
Also Palmar's list is complete bullshit, trusts geript with KP when geript has barely shown himself in thread and not done anything noteworthy?

Whatever you do, don't let this guy take the lead over what town should be doing or we're completely fucked.
I'm going to make it my mission to antagonize you from now on, Palmar.

Actively undermines people trying to organize town while offering no alternative at organization himself. Noted.

Do you think I'm mafia?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 01:16 GMT
#700
On January 20 2016 10:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 10:10 Palmar wrote:
Before I go to sleep, this is the outline of a plan that I'm slowly formulating, it's not very well thought through yet, mostly because I don't really know most of the roles, but here goes:

1. Keirathi - Trust level quite low: Force to pick gambler or dreamflower
2. Superbia - Trust level high. Should probably pick Link
3. ObiWanShinobi - Trust level moderate. I'd be okay with any investigative role here
4. Rels - Trust level moderate, investigative or KP role is good
5. Palmar - Trust level highest. I'll either pick CPR doc or arrow
6. geript - Trust level fairly high. I want him on an investigative role I think
7. Breshke - Trust level quite low. Force to pick protective
8. Koshi - Crazy, can't deal with him probably
9. Cephiro - Scum. Force into a completely neutered scumrole pls (like pure investigative or df/gambler)
10. kitaman27 - Trust level low to moderate. Good for a protective role
11. Vivax - Scum (force to pick dreamflower or gambler?)
12. Tictock - idk
13. disformation - low trust
14. Fecalfeast - low trust
15. Damdred - moderate trust, but not too much.
16. AlotSomuch - low trust
17. VayneAuthority - low trust
18. The Shining - low trust
19. Onegu - dumbass, can't deal with him
20. Sicklucker - Trust level high. either use him as a check, or get him kita, or get him a good role by forcing it to drop
21. Copcake - Whatever, preferably we try to force her into a role
22. GlowingBear - Whatever, preferably we try to force him into a role

the bunch of people with low trust in the bottom half on the list should probably try to grab PROTECTIVE or INVESTIGATIVE roles.

I will revise my list of people I trust later on in the game, but I will not accept any excuse for people picking KP roles unless they're on my trusted list. Current people I'd trust with KP are:

Superbia
Me
geript
sicklucker

I need 2-3 more names on this list.

How to get onto the list? there's two options

1. Post well and play well so I townread you.

2. Someone else (a third party) makes a good argument for you being town.

If anyone has a problem with anyone on my trust list, then let me know.



What the hell is your problem with me? Seems fake to me since we just rolled mafia together and you had no problems with me then


I like you as a person.

In mafia games you're extremely difficult to deal with because you don't really try that hard as either alignment. This means that figuring out your alignment is relatively difficult. I have no problem with you other than that I don't expect to ever be really sure what your alignment is. This means I don't intend to trust you.

If you get a strong role, I have to kill you, because you have a strong role. It's better for me if you get a weak role.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 01:16 GMT
#701
On January 20 2016 10:15 Cephiro wrote:
Like you have tictock as "idk", when he did an intentional snipe and hasn't explained himself, when you have vivax listed as scum for similar reasons (hasn't explained either), and then me, who is being here completely see-through, is scum because I don't agree with your bullshit?

Says more than enough about your approach to this game.

again, am I mafia?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 01:17 GMT
#703
stop fucking skirting the issue, if you're gonna call me mafia just do it.
Computer says mafia
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