Pick Your Power: Intriguing - Page 24

On January 24 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote:

The case against Kitaman27

Remember Palmar from Outlaw mafia? Man that guy was a dick. He shot all the people who were right and argued his way out of a lynch with the rest.

This game the guy who has the potential to do this is Kitaman. He's a very good player who would basically always be considered top tier if he played more. He is especially good at town.

What all the angry people (rayn, koshi etc) who think town played terribly in Outlaw fail to realize, is that it's their own damn fault for not leaving a rock-solid conclusive case behind that I couldn't argue against. I'm not going to make their mistake, this case will be a comprehensive reasoning Kitaman27 is mafia.

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This is both the best part about the case, and also the most difficult one to understand. I'll try to use small words for the benefit of certain people.

Vivax posted the post that immediately revealed him as mafia (well, not immediately, but it became clear he didn't follow up at all on it. This is the particular post:



After this, Kita had a "discussion" with Vivax



Vivax responded to this with:



So this was the extent of their conversation and posts about each other until I joined the thread about 2 or 3 hours later.

The important part is that Vivax wouldn't go on to post anything more for a long time. I basically saw Vivax's post and immediately called him out as mafia, then Kitaman decided to agree with me, without having shown no inclination towards calling Vivax mafia in the previous interaction.



The point is that what was originally just a reason to put a pretty mild question on Vivax became a pretty strong scumread without Vivax doing anything in the meantime. And the first sentence in Kita's post is the important one. He CLAIMS that he had already picked out Vivax as mafia, so why didn't he do anything about it???

It's also important to notice that if you go to Kita's filter you can see that while he consistently called Vivax mafia he was never actively trying to lynch him. He wasn't yelling for the lynch in the same way I do. There is no way a town Kita cares so little about the lynch.

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Part 2: Kita's case on me

I have already explained why having the checks is important and far better. Also I want everyone to understand that I put shady, experienced players on the check roles because I wanted to fucking deny them roles. I wanted them to just become MC at random.

But more importantly, even if he doesn't agree with me, it doesn't make me mafia. Nothing he says in the first part of the case makes me mafia.



Again a bunch of plan talk, none of which makes me mafia.



So finally, here is the part that actually "makes me mafia". Notice how he wrote a massive case and nothing in it was actually about me being mafia. It was just a giant argument that his clearly shitty plan was somehow better than mine because it gave scummy people roles.

My plan focused exactly on getting town as many blue roles as possible I just didn't want scum to get them too!

There is literally no way kita believes that me being convinced that my plan is better like this somehow means I'm mafia. It's entirely possible he's bad and genuinely (irrelevant of his alignment) thinks that his plan is better, but there is no way he believes it makes me mafia.

It was a giant ass fake case based on nothing. Literally flinging shit to see if it sticks.

Also, just like the Vivax read, I don't feel like he made a strong push to actually lynch me.

In fact I don't think Kita has passionately pushed anyone this game. It's just some shitty lists of 3-5 people thrown together as maybe mafia.

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Part 3: Various other things

• Tonally it feels like Kitaman is structured but not really invested
  
• His latest "list of various scummy people". Is once again just a shitty list with no conclusion or no motivation to kill someone specific. Just a "these people are maybe mafia".
  
• For a long time it felt like his filter was relatively short. It's up to maybe 7 pages now, but it was 5 pages back on day 1. Again, the whole "not invested" thing.
  
• He didn't at all help me strongarm the lynch onto Vivax. This doesn't mean they have to be scumbuddies, it just once more means that despite a strong, consistent scumread of his being lynched, he barely cared. He kept randomly calling Vivax mafia while not really trying to do anything about it
  

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Part 4: Suggestions on how to deal with Kita in the future if I'm dead

• Shoot him
  
• If he tries to argue with you, just copy paste this case repeatedly instead of responding to him
  
• Vote him
  
• Reply to all his posts by posting youtube videos of Donald Trump speeches
  
• Never listen to him
  
• Don't believe "checks" on him. He's mafia.
  
• Insult him using creative British words like "Wazzock" and "Buffoon".
  
• Shoot him again
  

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I hope you all enjoyed my case on Kitaman27. He is always mafia this game no matter what he says. If this game ends and he's still alive there will be killings.

Good Luck!