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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 06 2016 18:43 GMT
#42
/in
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 01:13 GMT
#121
logic dictates that we are playing on setup 3, as that is the most common number chosen on a 4 way choice.

Therefore there is no named VT
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 02:18 GMT
#129
I am getting scum vibes already from Sloosh just gonna throw that out there
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 03:12 GMT
#145
just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work

He's struggling to create a filter

most likely mafia
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 04:08 GMT
#170
i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 18:55 GMT
#311
On January 10 2016 01:53 Koshi wrote:
Not sure if I should do this but I can't stay behind.

Unlynchables D1:
GiygaS, rayn, Eden

Townleans:
Nooniansoong , GGTemplar + Show Spoiler +
On January 09 2016 16:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I also don't find your attempted interrogation an attempt to discern my alignment either.

You're more-so just trying to discredit my vote and scumread of you without providing any real content other than

'why?'
'why?'
'why?'

I liked this post
, mderg

Null:
Kmatt (tempted to bump him up but it would be bad play?) (because his opening post was so chill, would mafia not post more?)
VayneAuthority / boxerfred (50/50 mafia?)

PoE mafia
slOosh, Tubesock



If you thnk sloosh is mafia it is unlikely I am mafia, doesnt make much sense to me your reads. I don't understand why Eden would be unlynchable either, what original content has he produced
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 18:57 GMT
#312
Maybe its meta, I honestly dont know many of these players. Guess I should look up Eden because his filter looks like a good scumplayer to me I don't know if that is true or not
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 19:10 GMT
#320
On January 10 2016 03:58 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:53 Koshi wrote:
Not sure if I should do this but I can't stay behind.

Unlynchables D1:
GiygaS, rayn, Eden

Townleans:
Nooniansoong , GGTemplar + Show Spoiler +
On January 09 2016 16:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I also don't find your attempted interrogation an attempt to discern my alignment either.

You're more-so just trying to discredit my vote and scumread of you without providing any real content other than

'why?'
'why?'
'why?'

I liked this post
, mderg

Null:
Kmatt (tempted to bump him up but it would be bad play?) (because his opening post was so chill, would mafia not post more?)
VayneAuthority / boxerfred (50/50 mafia?)

PoE mafia
slOosh, Tubesock



If you thnk sloosh is mafia it is unlikely I am mafia, doesnt make much sense to me your reads. I don't understand why Eden would be unlynchable either, what original content has he produced

You are saying I should use unflipped association reads more?

Eden is unlynchable for me D1. That wasn't clear. But he is already 100% unlynchable. I think I also lynched Eden twice on D1 as mafia already. Not sure. At least once.


Well you should at least make a conscious effort to have a scumteam that makes sense and solve the game or you will make bad lynches. IDK why I would bring this much attention to sloosh when he had no suspicion before if we are scum together, I cant predict the future what will happen. Timing is always important in mafia, if you ignore it it's an easy way to find scum...
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 19:13 GMT
#321
On January 10 2016 04:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Maybe its meta, I honestly dont know many of these players. Guess I should look up Eden because his filter looks like a good scumplayer to me I don't know if that is true or not

I haven't played many games in 2015 but he isn't spectacular as mafia. But I know if he keeps up what he has been doing he will come to the right answers soon enough. I only was a bit underwhelmed with his answer to rayns list post.

Do you think Kush is possible mafia?


not much to say about kush except that he agrees with me being similar to oatsmaster is lazy/bad

He could still be either alignment
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 19:18 GMT
#324
He is some one that needs a larger filter to read, lynching him day 1 would be useless/bad. especially since he can find scum if you give him time
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 19:26 GMT
#327
On January 10 2016 04:18 slOosh wrote:
Vayne, apart from me, could I have your strongest scum read?


If i really had to pick, mderg, but it is a very weak/generic read at this point
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 09 2016 19:54 GMT
#332
On January 10 2016 04:47 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 04:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
He is some one that needs a larger filter to read, lynching him day 1 would be useless/bad. especially since he can find scum if you give him time


vayne what do you think about how i want to lynch you?


doesnt matter 8) I'll just have less to browse at work on monday
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 11 2016 02:13 GMT
#769
read thread, ill post stuff at work tomorrow too tired after today
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 11 2016 20:58 GMT
#867
I will write my quick thoughts incase I am vigged, don't want to invest too much time obviously when its super possible ill just die.

The most likely mafia I can deduct from voting analysis and a follow up of his filter is darthfoley

You will see that Tubesock was most likely the mafia mislynch of choice, kinda sure he is town. When the 2nd vote drops onto boxerfred, tubesock is sitting at 3 votes. starting to get close. then darthfoley goes ahead and votes for tubesock to make it a comfortable 4-2. But what you can't account for as mafia is a last second large swing like that resulting in boxer's lynch. It is a very suspicious and well timed vote on his part.

Follow that up with gems like this from his filter

On January 10 2016 05:35 darthfoley wrote:
1) I think it's scummy to generate discussion and then pop out because it seems helpful, all while staying under the radar without much concrete reasoning.

2) At the time I made my post, I'm pretty sure VA had only thrown out one name in the whole thread: Sloosh as scum read. Boxerfred has been more holistic in his approach to Q&A to Koshi and others imo. I haven't looked through Tubesock's or any of the less active posters yet.


See part 2, boxerfred literally has almost no filter besides 1 post. He hasn't looked through any of the less active posters but says boxerfred is a shining example of being holistic? Soft defense that you wouldn't technically even realize you are doing as a mafia partner.

Now look through his voting pattern, he flip flops on me and tubesock at the slightest change of wind to try to appear as if he is mulling his options but really he doesnt care that either of us is lynched, they are both mislynches for him. Thread support was the only thing that ever swayed his opinion.

Finally, this is more of tells for me instead of mafia play but his first page is a lot of feigning ignorance with mechanics of the game to generate filter and even tells us about stuff he is doing irl which I largely associate with mafia attempting to lighten mood/make them appear more likable.

cya at deadline Maybe.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 12 2016 01:16 GMT
#968
for anyone that doesnt understand koshi, if there is no named VT that means there is no framer and we are playing setup B, aka tubesock is confirmed mafia.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 12 2016 14:32 GMT
#1027
I am a simple man of percentages, especially in a straightforward game. How can we not lynch tubesock?

Sure its possible he was framed, but he needs to die at some point.

Just ask people how lolzy it was when HF survived with a red check, its just a bad play to let a small percentage affect you. It's like poker you will have some bad beats but that doesn't mean you should stop playing solid poker

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 13 2016 19:03 GMT
#1147
There's a difference between not posting and doing nothing, I always keep up with the thread, I simply have nothing to add until we see that flip. I'm a believer in smaller the thread the better for town as it will be more compact. You can easily see where I stand on the game if you read my filter in under 5 mins.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 13 2016 21:44 GMT
#1170
So we don't lynch tubesock and let's say we lynch me or darthfoley or kush or w/e and they flip green, and now you by proxy look terrible scummy along with tubesock, eden.

Is that really the state of the game you want? I can't imagine so if you are town, that is a terrible place to leave town in.

It doesnt solve the redcheck and simultaneously spreads the lynch pool to be even more convoluted
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 13 2016 22:34 GMT
#1185
On January 14 2016 06:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 06:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
So we don't lynch tubesock and let's say we lynch me or darthfoley or kush or w/e and they flip green, and now you by proxy look terrible scummy along with tubesock, eden.

Is that really the state of the game you want? I can't imagine so if you are town, that is a terrible place to leave town in.

It doesnt solve the redcheck and simultaneously spreads the lynch pool to be even more convoluted

I don't give a damn how it "looks."

The red check is already solved in my mind. I am town and will be more than capable of proving it all game long. Why would I care about either of these things?

I want not to lynch Tubesock today. Tubesock is going to flip town. I am sure of it. If not lynching him, and lynching one of my suspects, is what happens instead, I will be more than happy with that game state, even if the actual lynch is incorrect.

I don't get the point of this post Vayne. Why would I care how anything looks? I would lynch a suspect and save one of my top town reads from being lynched. That's what matters.


I am trying to gauge what you are doing, the obscene odds on a framer/cop hitting the same person are quite low. My true intention was to see whether you are trying to pull some sort of powerplay as mafia when tubesock flips town, using "I told you so" methods, because that is all I am really getting out of you atm.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 13 2016 23:03 GMT
#1194
and with that flip I now agree with koshi that eden is incredibly suspicous
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 15 2016 14:22 GMT
#1283
Well rayn was highly suspicious of kush before he died so it is possibly that simple. I don't know if a scott/darth scumteam makes that NK after rayn was wrong on the lynch and other people looked way more unlynchable. Kush fits the bill for being the experienced player that would make that kill. I am still suspicious of Eden though, he had an eerie TMI vibe from that tubesock lynch that is really annoying me.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 16 2016 20:28 GMT
#1310
alright kush it is, if hes town we should prob try after that tho
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 17 2016 01:52 GMT
#1333
I don't think it really matters, my filter cant get any more clearer/less convoluted. Obviously not mafia here
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 17 2016 02:09 GMT
#1336
gut says eden but people saying he is locked in town/town meta

game flow says darth

so i guess darth.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 18 2016 15:56 GMT
#1362
Not sure what I am supposed to think about scott, his filter is just random list posts and quoting random stuff, should I have an opinion on him?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 18 2016 16:05 GMT
#1364
I would say he has 33% chance of being mafia, unlikely but maybe it's just that easy. There is nothing I can say is town or scum about him. Just a nonentity.

Comparatively I think darth is 50/50
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 18 2016 17:22 GMT
#1367
On January 19 2016 02:01 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 01:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
I would say he has 33% chance of being mafia, unlikely but maybe it's just that easy. There is nothing I can say is town or scum about him. Just a nonentity.

Comparatively I think darth is 50/50

What pushes darth into actively-mafia territory for you then? (Or basically so, if 33% is true neutral and darth is 50%)


Besides what I've already said, he is still actively invested in the game which is weird tbh at this point if you are town, pretty much phoning it in. There is the type of mafia player that wants to defy the odds and win a game like that.

Never played with him so don't know how true that is but I would be a lot more active in this game if i was mafia. If the last one is you or ggtemplar for example you have a very good shot of winning this game
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2016 19:55 GMT
#1422
On January 20 2016 04:52 darthfoley wrote:
Ah well, the truth will come out when my limp body hangs at the gallows. I shall become a martyr for the cause, a noble cause, a just cause, a righteous cause.

+ Show Spoiler +
you thought I would admit to being mafia here, didn't you? + Show Spoiler +
or perhaps here?+ Show Spoiler +
definitely here?+ Show Spoiler +
if you got to here, you deserve to know that I'm the medic


You know we know there is no medic in this setup right? you might as well concede after that post
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2016 21:24 GMT
#1431
kush
01-11-2016
11:15 AM ET (US)
so I think rayn is a good hit. Rayn is such a popular nk that I don't think people will necessarily connect it with wanting to lynch me.

On January 15 2016 23:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
Well rayn was highly suspicious of kush before he died so it is possibly that simple. I don't know if a scott/darth scumteam makes that NK after rayn was wrong on the lynch and other people looked way more unlynchable. Kush fits the bill for being the experienced player that would make that kill. I am still suspicious of Eden though, he had an eerie TMI vibe from that tubesock lynch that is really annoying me.


only reason i voted kush be smarter about NKs mafia teams!
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2016 21:54 GMT
#1439
What rayn said is true. If you don't see me able to find a scum with kill/voting analysis then maybe I am scum. But I am always trying to change it up so who knows how true that will be next game.
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