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On December 24 2015 03:44 MoosyDoosy wrote: Holyflare? Damdred? People I don't know and that I can piss off with my play?
/in
Oh god, please save yourselves trouble and policy lynch this guy day 1. Trust me, just do it.
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She could cohost but playing I imagine would be a timesink esp with this many people through the new year.
Although if she and I were in another game together it'll be a real clusterfuck, I really like driving HTS up a wall in mafia xD
Also this so much.
##vote MoosyDoosy
We policy lynch him before the game begins. Love it
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Wait HTS is balancing this game?
There goes the neighbourhood, folks.
<3
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On December 27 2015 00:45 GlowingBear wrote: ARGH. Public display of affection
This.
GigyaS, if you are outing, Newbie 19 has one more spot open.
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Of course joining this shitfest is tempting. But I can't play the newbie and this.
Except I can't lynch Fidei and I really want to. I can't lynch HTS in either game. But Moosy is quite tempting.
xD
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HTS is balancing this game.
Damdred is tempting me in.
Maybe I should debate joining and drive HTS up the wall if she has to re-balance the game because of me?
Excellent.
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There's no framer in the setup but mafia have a GF. I really don't know about the miller rigmarole. Cop is alignment right?
Newbie is starting 28th now.....ehhhhh.
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EoD NYE is 11pm in the UK Trfel.
I think the very last thing you want is a drunk HTS/disformation counting votes after shennanies.
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Holy shit, what the fuck kind of shitshow did I just replace into?
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Only skimmed from the last lynch onwards because this is a bit much to take in. I can understand from the claims alone why Onegu is mafia, but I don't understand the town motivation for fakeclaiming gunsmith, Damdred says there was some info from d1, so I guess I have to re-read that too.
Actually in general I don't understand the town motivation for fakeclaiming in general, but probably because I'm still relatively new to forum mafia.
Can someone summarise why Alakaslam, Palmar and Holyflare are mafia? I don't think those folks were involved with the claims.
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Onegu is probably going to be my top lynch, unless I can get a summary/case/link to a case on Palmar or Alakaslam that makes them more convincing.
Voting Onegu for now.
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For those of you who don't think I give a shit about this game, I am just letting you know I'm on page 41 reading from beginning to end. I'll let you know when I'm fully caught up.
I voted Onegu based on reading the most important parts of this game (the TT claim, the lynch, the day 2 intro/in and around the day posts/night posts) because I don't have that much time to read 170 pages of goodness knows what, and I glossed through the reads of the nightkills since we have two nights of NK WIFOM information to look through. Replacing in that is generally how I start, and this game is larger than anything I've played.
I asked for points against Palmar/Slam, never really got an answer but found something reliable on the former after the fact.
I think at least a few of those people out of the game wanted Palmar dead so that's an indication there's probably something up with Palmar, but I haven't read his filter but we're talking what, 7-8 people dead over 2 nights?
Doesn't that count for something? Onegu is mechanically confirmed mafia so that is an easy vote.
If we're one lynch away from lylo as Damdred said, I want to know why people aren't voting the most likely mafia.
If people are going for the "we must kill the powerrole" strategy, then this is something I'm not terribly familiar with outside 13-player setups.
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Thinking about it, the only argument I can think of for NOT voting Onegu is that mafia wouldn't put in a power role (RB, rolechecker, vig) to fakeclaim the red check and instead have the vanilla scum do it. If someone's made that argument, then fine, but if we can't decide on an alternative, then go for the most likely mafia.
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On January 04 2016 00:58 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2016 00:57 NocturneMage wrote: For those of you who don't think I give a shit about this game, I am just letting you know I'm on page 41 reading from beginning to end. I'll let you know when I'm fully caught up.
I voted Onegu based on reading the most important parts of this game (the TT claim, the lynch, the day 2 intro/in and around the day posts/night posts) because I don't have that much time to read 170 pages of goodness knows what, and I glossed through the reads of the nightkills since we have two nights of NK WIFOM information to look through. Replacing in that is generally how I start, and this game is larger than anything I've played.
I asked for points against Palmar/Slam, never really got an answer but found something reliable on the former after the fact.
I think at least a few of those people out of the game wanted Palmar dead so that's an indication there's probably something up with Palmar, but I haven't read his filter but we're talking what, 7-8 people dead over 2 nights?
Doesn't that count for something? Onegu is mechanically confirmed mafia so that is an easy vote.
If we're one lynch away from lylo as Damdred said, I want to know why people aren't voting the most likely mafia.
If people are going for the "we must kill the powerrole" strategy, then this is something I'm not terribly familiar with outside 13-player setups. hes not tho
Why would he or anyone for that matter do something like this as a VT?
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On January 04 2016 00:33 sicklucker wrote: slam or noctorn mage and never change. at least we have a chance to read palmer/tref/ritoky going forward. Even if noctorn mage is town hes not going to give a flying shit about this game. I wouldnt and slam is slam
And why are you effectively going for what equates to a policy lynch when we are apparently one lynch away from lylo and there is apparently more readable/debatable material on other people? This is reckless if you are town.
Unless you had a reason to scumread Ness (did you?) your method makes no sense. I can't speak for slam other than that Slam appears unreadable to me, and I think Koshi and one other wanted him dead before he died.
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I have never played with Onegu before, first game right now is the other game in progress on TL.
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On January 04 2016 01:09 sicklucker wrote: If I were to scum read onegu it would be for the fact hes usually acualy good at his fakeclaim bullshit. but here he was just really bad. But hes been playing especially bad lately
So where are you drawing the line between bad and mafia?
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On January 03 2016 22:40 ObviousOne wrote: thought about night kills for a bit in my simpleminded way and reviewed some of their filters quickly
rsoul obviously killed because confirmed town and capable of playing as opposed to coag who is mostly reliable for deciding at the last possible moment who to lynch at lylo, making him a low priority kill
based on artanis rayn and vivax, palmar is suspect as they were the largest proponents of his lynch. also they were probably the most obvious town so it's hard to decide if they were killed for being obviously town or if they were being killed for their scum reads.
i don't want to lynch onegu yet because im pretty sure he's town and pulled of a highly retarded ego-related move to try to get a scum read lynched and that is so bad that i would rather ignore him completely than dedicate any more brain cells to thinking about it. also the people voting for him at this point, yikes.
no idea what i was thinking about since i didnt write it down when writing my last scum team list, poked through various filters and there was a confluence of ideas that make it a thing that happened. mostly how people talk to / treat eachother and their scum reads, but it was nebulous and in my head so i have no idea if it's good or not. maybe not. i am apparently the black sheep when it comes to scum reads this game which probably means i'm 90% wrong or more. i remember last time that happened in a game hosted by bh, wasn't a good time after i died and found out how retarded i was. could be that all over again.
maybe there's some hidden nuggets in the way the rels vote went. honestly i don't see/remember how come rels was lynched for sheeping rayn or what his major offense was.
haven't given a single thought to nocturne but there's been some discussion about him relating to replacement meta that could be a good start. it's entirely possible that ness quit not because he was a pissed off townie but because he didn't want to deal with mafia [the game] elitist hotheads. i could see that. i had that kind of thought in my first newbie game with someone a lot less outrageous.
it's hindering me thinking about things in terms of potential teams with this many players and i'm at a loss when it comes to trying process of elimination so... yeah. gonna sheep damdred today.
I think this is a pretty good reason right here to vote Palmar over Onegu (the Onegu reasoning presumably based on meta if that is what other people are saying). Not sure why he wanted to sheep Damdred instead of trust his own vote, I thought Koshi suspected Palmar too? There's more evidence that way too.
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On January 04 2016 01:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2016 01:01 sicklucker wrote: Have you ever played with onegu nocturnemage?
I think I have roleswapped with him twice before. its like all he does. Fakes power roles If he's town and we lynch him, maybe he'll stop doing it.
Can we afford this line of reasoning one mislynch before lylo? I don't think so.
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On January 04 2016 01:16 Damdred wrote: Maybe but I did play in a game with scum onegu where he fake claimed big and rode it until end of game. There is that.
On January 04 2016 01:13 Damdred wrote: Nm what's the mafia motivation potentially going 1v1 and if he's cc Tt is confirmed town?
By your own admission if he's capable of this as mafia, why couldn't he possibly do it now?
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