Can we just all take a moment to appreciate how dumb that was. I kinda hope damdred and Onegu are town and this was just the most moronic day of all time.

The blue guy tried to claim Miller after being checked by a fake cop

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 01 2016 23:24 GMT

#3149

Also the real cop made the right play not cc-ing because of tictock's reaction. There was no reason to think tictock might be town

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 01 2016 23:25 GMT

#3152

Yeah chill slam the rules were quite clear

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 02 2016 10:50 GMT

#3295

On January 02 2016 14:24 Trfel wrote:

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Why are you townreading Palmar?

Mysteriously kush is right on my alignment when everyone else is being dumb. I can think of two reasons as to why this would happen.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 02 2016 15:34 GMT

#3313

On January 03 2016 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

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How so?
Can you elaborate on why we shouldn't lynch Palmar?

He knows I'm not mafia. There is no way I believe that when I have for some reason played in a way where literally everyone scumreads me that kush is the hero who actually makes the right call.

He's probably either mafia himself (and playing his classic TMI card) or he's the cop and actually checked me n1.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 02 2016 15:45 GMT

#3318

There isn't really anything to do Exo. Since Onegu's claim yesterday the game has mostly been on autopilot. We had to lynch tictock based on the information available (although I want to mention that yesterday I'm fairly certain a couple of people used tictock flipping mafia and me participating in the shennies off of him was indicative of me being scum, clearly that was not true).

Now we have to lynch Onegu and Damdred, although they should 100% focus on not defending themselves but to try to build cases on people who they think might be scum. The best way to convince me to not lynch them is to make someone else a higher lynch target priority.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 02 2016 16:32 GMT

#3327

The more I think about it I don't know if this makes damdred scum

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 02 2016 16:33 GMT

#3328

Or idk

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 02 2016 16:33 GMT

#3329

I'll explain when I'm not on phone tonight

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 02 2016 16:33 GMT

#3330

There basically is a problem if they're both mafia. It doesn't really make sense

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 02 2016 16:36 GMT

#3331

I sort of talked about it yesterday when I was discussing damdred probably not being the gunsmith. That post was made under the assumption tt would flip mafia though but it's still sort of valid to think about damdreds motivation like that

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 03 2016 00:13 GMT

#3376

I am also against killing Palmar and I think slam would be a better lynch.

I still think we should kill GB though. Like I guess I'll make the case at some point, but I've been saying it since day 1. He asked a question that was implicitly answered in the passage of things that were being talked about where he picked up on the idea to ask that question. This means he wasn't actually reading, he just saw something he could create a question on and went with it.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 03 2016 13:32 GMT

#3492

I feel like mentally noting OWS has been less retarded than most this game.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 03 2016 13:32 GMT

#3493

but I can't really remember why

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 03 2016 22:37 GMT

#3619

Stop arguing with kush guys, he's clearly the cop

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 03 2016 22:38 GMT

#3620

On January 04 2016 01:53 NocturneMage wrote:
Alright, so if I am to trust Onegu's meta or your reads of his meta that he can do this as both alignments, then I'll switch my vote to Palmar. Confirmed mason is also pointing us in that direction last I saw, surely he can be trusted on top of all the NK WIFOM.

##unvote
##vote Palmar

I'll pick up reading the thread from where I left off.

The point about coagulation is super overjustified. It's guaranteed that not all the people who are calling me mafia are scum, so knowing that one random guy, who also happens to be terrible at mafia, should not in any way strengthen your vote.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 03 2016 22:38 GMT

#3621

This is possibly lynch worthy

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 03 2016 22:47 GMT

#3627

I promised to talk about the onegu/damdred thing.

There is no way they're both mafia. The reason for this is that they both look bad when tictock flips. It's too much invested into getting one random guy lynched. Even if mafia knew he was a role. IF mafia knows he's a role (rolecop) only damdred can be mafia (and not onegu) because there is no way onegu claims a red on him as mafia, knowing he'll just claim blue and will never be cc'd. We also know (from the nightkills on n2) that mafia had not at day 2 hit any townies with the rolecop (JK/Cop is autokill and the masons are already outed). So, either the mafia rolecop missed, or it hit tt, in which case only damdred can be mafia.

On the other hand, if mafia had no idea what tt's role was, onegu can be mafia, and if he is, damdred is almost certainly not, because people (like myself) were actively calling for the gunsmith not to CC tictock. The only problem with this theory is why would onegu go 1 for 1 on someone whose role he doesn't know and who is so scummy that people were literally mad that he didn't get lynched on day 1. It's just not worth it.

So, technically it's more likely damdred is mafia, but I really, really think they're both town.