EPTOn January 08 2016 05:57 NocturneMage wrote:
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On January 08 2016 05:57 NocturneMage wrote: I would like to start a train on Ritoky or Palmar, the question is, who else is willing to think things through and also book their ticket? Hmm. Can you answer my question about the similarities between here and Dark Tournament? It doesn't seem like many ppl are here. Palm is afking the lynch because he has a conference today apparently. Why is he scum? Your points aren't bad against ritoky either but deciding if they actually make him scum is difficult. I've been asking myself why he wasn't shot if he had a gun, tbh. No one was really scumming him until you came in, iirc. | ||
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On January 08 2016 06:10 NocturneMage wrote: I have a mechanical explanation for this. Because it depends on the PR. Look at the blues we have then (cop, JK), both investigative roles. Guess what was lynched then? The vanilla scum. What was disposable at the time? Vanilla and vig. Now? Cop is gone. What is expendable now? GF, Vig. I would be willing to put money down that Alakaslam is either the GF or the Vig, and not the two remaining roles needed for them. This is just classic mafia strategy, take out the investigatives before they are found out. If I'm not mistaken, the vig shot on n1 & n2, which was why there were more NKs. Why would they need the vig alive for n3? Only 2 ppl were nkd yesterday. And although this does make sense, even though the cop is gone, why would scum not want the GF to live? Once the gf flips, the probable green checks go from 75% to confirmed town. | ||
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On January 08 2016 06:32 NocturneMage wrote: (btw not ignoring your Palmar/Dark Tournament questions) what I am trying to say here is that they wouldn't need the vig alive. that they are protecting the roles they need going forward. and that Slam (gameplay aside) is not someone they need going forward, ergo, he's the gf or vig. So you seem convinced both Slam and ritoky are scum then. Why not take the Slam lynch if he's scum instead of trying to shenanny onto ritoky? And your theory only makes sense if Slam is GF. If he was vig and already used his two shots, there would have been no reason to vote onto GB over him since they're both essentially mafia vanilla at that point. And GB arguably did more than slam before he fell off. Palmar was one of the main cases on the GB wagon, too. Are you thinking he bussed him then? | ||
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On January 08 2016 06:39 ritoky wrote: i think when you tunneled me last time and i was town that you were town as well, so i can see this coming from town. i am actually sketched out by damdred the most from this and may actually start rethinking my procedurally confirmed read on him and 1gu as a result. he is kinda leaving his options open on me when i think he should know i am always town. which could be him posturing to side with me or ML me depending on thread sentiment....like he should be REALLY certain i am town at this point. If you're sketched about damdred, what does that do to your TR of me? Since the basis of it is because Damdred said so. Would that mean he has tmi? Or scum buddies? Or are you just being paranoid? | ||
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Idk NM. On the one hand, there are parts where I can see how you drew the parallels between the two games re: scumtoky but this game...Meh. Idk how to explain it. He seems a lot more relaxed and still involved in things. Like when he was scum and we went at it that game, he was a lot more aggressive towards me because I scum read him. And as I'm typing this, I'm remembering he went from aggression and "this is why you're scum shining" to "you're right, I never read you right, you could be town." He called you scum in his initial defense and then, because you're tunneled, he said he could see it coming from town. Is this another similarity? | ||
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On January 08 2016 06:50 ritoky wrote: dunno yet, still thinking about it tbh....like if i am just wrong on my read and mafia would take a risk like that, and who would do that.....because i really believe damdred should be at a point on day 3 where he understands i can't be mafia ever, and he should know why. I mean I know you guys have this awesome soul read thing going on but he town read you as scum in fullmetal when he replaced in iirc. So it wouldn't be the first time you fooled him as scum. Maybe he just isn't as sure on being able to read you anymore? Like his post just now about his poe looks pretty honest, even though I don't really see what he sees in kush town | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:12 NocturneMage wrote: No but in Fullmetal, we didn't clash in that game. He made the opportunistic argument when I reacted to Trfel but we were able to get him lynched that game on shennanies (and not because we had a drawn out argument) and I think both of us shennanied on him in that game, so from that end you cannot compare the two. I pushed my case on ritoky in that game whilst he was afk by talking with people near end of cycle. I meant he and I clashed in that game. And he retracted his scum read on me because he said he looked in past games and was wrong on me before. In this game, you two are clashing and he called you scum for omgus that led to your case, and implying you're pushing a ML with walls of text on him because he has a broken wrist. But then he says you've tunneled him before in past games and he can see it coming from town. The only difference I see is he dropped the scum read completely on me in full metal, but he only said you could be town but are much less likely to be than the others on his POE. | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:17 Damdred wrote: So you could ask this question. But seriously higher priority targets That's a silly question. You didn't shoot Damdred in full metal, either. | ||
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I only re-read the shenanny and my interaction with ritoky and you weren't there so I forgot, my b damdred | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:28 nooniansoong wrote: if i were you guys i would probably think I was scum. My PoE now looks like oo ows onegu alakaslam who are all basically lynch bait. Must be wrong. I probably towned EXO too easily today. NM does have a sick scum game as evidenced from that last newbie but this looks different. You forgot me  | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:33 NocturneMage wrote: But there's a slight similarity here, you have a reaction where you react strongly when you are scumread (not just ritoky but by anyone I think), and him backing down (IIRC???) was because he wasn't or wouldn't be able to get you lynched or something because of how you fought back. Here he knows he cannot debunk the case so he has to back down/backtrack and find a way to just say meh he's tunnelled so that I might drop it. Also the only game where I've played with ritoky was Fullmetal. I have never played with him in Dark Tournament, newbies, 13, 14 and he wasn't in the last one. The walls of text argument is largely because there are a lot of points in my case (and a bit of evidence to support it), whether or not I break the posts down into smaller posts doesn't matter or make his or my arguments any more or less valid. That's basically what I was saying -.- the similarity is there. But I always scum ritoky anyway and he always scums me. So I'm suffering from bias because of that. Regardless it looks like Slam is the lock lynch at this point and not many people are here. You get at least all night phase to hash this out more. I do think the tunneling while still talking about Palmar and slam gives me a sense of you being town, though. I wish you hadn't upped your scum game so town reading you would be easier lol | ||
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I really hope the gf flips in Slam or someone else tomorrow so I can believe you're 100% town. You keep using this as your main defense and it's starting to irk me =/ | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah I'm actually godfather. Oh well - you got me. Lol all I'm saying is I'd like more from you than "I'm green checked." And once gf flips, I can put this to rest | ||
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On January 08 2016 07:49 NocturneMage wrote: Alright, Noon is saying OO is a lynch bait player then, so likely just PoE? He's not looking scummy at all per se to me looking through his posts, probably just a low volume poster. For me it's POE, activity and him claiming I was much more engaged in the thread early on and I'm not anymore, which means I'm scum. Which is bad because most of my posts early on were catch up posts and just scumming Ness. Then he asked palmar to validate a meta read on me from my most recent scum game and a random town game, even though I've rolled town in like 20/22 games. But when I asked him about it, he said it probably meant nothing, even though I think he scum read me | ||
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I also just got my wish 're: Obi so I'm pretty happy. I can take Obi off of my POE. NM, too, after this last day phase. Slam voting exo is such wifom though. Anyone know if Slam is more likely to vote a partner here or a townie? A part of me wants to not even touch that. | ||
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On January 08 2016 08:04 Damdred wrote: Congrats Obi on being basically confirmed town. To bad SL didn't make his second check better. Interesting that palmar wouldn't move to slam yesterday when we were shenanigans. Time to think Hmmmm. Palmar+OO+exo? If not exo, NMs ritoky case might have merit. | ||
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On January 08 2016 08:09 nooniansoong wrote: Something that looks fishy in regards to slam and EXO is that slam reverse is skim read into a town read very easily Was that before he voted exo? | ||
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