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On January 03 2016 00:43 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2016 00:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 03 2016 00:37 ExO_ wrote:On January 02 2016 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 02 2016 14:34 ExO_ wrote:
Why in the world are you town reading palmar? Both Artanis/rayn were reading palmar as scum. His play this game makes me think he's scum. Elaborate pls? Do you want me to elaborate on the Artanis/Rayn part? I can go quote them, but you're quite capable of reading the back end of their filters yourself. Both of them agreed on palmar, and if they were both completely on the wrong track I'm not sure scum would've killed them As for my thinking his play this game makes me think he's scum: starts with the above. If you look, he's kinda in the thread but hasn't really contributed anything to solving the game. He's kinda just going with the flow. I can build a better case on him, but tbh I'm lazy and want to see the results of the night before I do anything. I'm aware of artanis/rayn scumreading him but I'm not sure that's enough on its own - both of them make plausible n1 targets regardless of their reads (I even shot rayn myself a few games ago even though he was wrong on everything.) I'd like to see your case and I'm perfectly happy to wait until night's end to read it. I'm not gonna be shot anyway so it probably doesn't matter. and how do you know scum isnt going to shoot you?
Nobody ever shoots me, especially not after how lazy I've been recently.
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I'm just going to assume Trfel is confirmed mafia from here on out considering how badly he's playing.
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On January 03 2016 09:06 nooniansoong wrote:
I hate figuring out mechanics stuff.
I'm really against killing Palmer today. I think slam is a good lynch that people can agree on.
Why not Palmar?
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I'm still hyper inclined to lynch Trfel, btw.
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On January 03 2016 09:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2016 09:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still hyper inclined to lynch Trfel, btw. cuz?
Too apathetic to be town.
I'm going to write out a case when I get home since I'm going to try to pull quotes and such.
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On January 03 2016 10:03 nooniansoong wrote:
Ows I think he's scum but he's harder to lynch than slam. I can make a slam case at some point I think.
Hard to lynch is a myth.
Ride with me and help me claim Trfel's head.
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Honestly I could also say "screw it" and kill Onegu as well.
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There was one specific Palmar post that I also didn't like and I don't need my computer to pull it up.
I'll go take a look at it and point out why.
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Meh, I took a look and I'm not sure if it's important or not anymore.
I'll just continue my Trfel campaign and maybe I'll die before I have to think about Palmar some more.
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On January 03 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote:I don't understand why people don't want to lynch nooniansoong. He's not doing anything, he's just existing. Seriously, he's not invested in the game at all, just going with the flow. It's the same thing as ObiWanShinobi and Palmar. If people are pushing town all the time (Vivax, Tictock, Rels, Tictock again), why does mafia need to do anything? Mafia will sit back and go with it, let town argue about it. That's what nooniansoong, ObiWanShinobi, and Palmar have been doing this entire time. I definitely see Damdred's point about NocturneMage, however I felt that N e s s's play seemed like town, and I'm not yet comfortable reading NocturneMage from these posts. The contrast is also a bit weaker because this is a much, much larger game than the last one NocturneMage replaced into. I'll take another look at Alakaslam, but my impressions from his filter weren't aligned with most of the things that ritoky was saying. Show nested quote +On January 03 2016 00:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 02 2016 19:23 Trfel wrote:ObiWanShinobi + Show Spoiler +He's just.... not doing anything at all.
He's not making any useful thoughts, he's not being commanding, he's just following the lead that everyone else is providing. He's just doing whatever, not trying to solve the game.
One example of this is ObiWanShinobi's read on boxerfred. He initially said that people scumreading boxerfred for doing nothing is bad, because boxerfred did nothing and got mislynched for it as town. However, when boxerfred continued to be useless, Holyflare said that he wanted to lynch boxerfred on Day 3, and ObiWanShinobi said that he agreed without mentioning boxerfred in between. I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing. So then the question becomes, did ObiWanShinobi have actual scumreads at the time he said that he would be willing to lynch boxerfred. If he did, then this is very suspicious. If not, then I'm less sure. I'll try and check that tonight as well.
Stuff it scumsack.
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Actually I'm going to go out and respond to it because why not.
I was voting Tt pretty much the entire time so it's untrue.
Even if it wasn't, bf still would have been a fantastic lynch for being useless.
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On January 03 2016 12:31 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2016 12:20 Trfel wrote:
The Shining, please be town, and please help me.
If my reads are horrible and stupid, or don't make people scum, please tell me. And if it's just that they don't make people scum, if you could explain why, that would be great? How can I help you when you respond to me once and then leave? =/ I also just remembered a decent amount of my TR on Trfel was based on the red check being real and Trfel hard aligning with TT, which wouldn't happen with both being scum. But TT was blue so that goes out of the window. Obi, what makes Trfel scum? When can I expect your case?
You can expect it tomorrow.
I already explained why I thought he was scum (he's relatively apathetic).
Got called in late so now I'm stuck here fiddling with my phone and I can't post much of worth when I need quotes and such until tomorrow, so.
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On January 03 2016 12:33 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2016 12:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually I'm going to go out and respond to it because why not.
I was voting Tt pretty much the entire time so it's untrue.
Even if it wasn't, bf still would have been a fantastic lynch for being useless. That is nothing like what I said at all. Nice reading comprehension. Sorry TS, busy.
Yes it is.
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On January 03 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing. So then the question becomes, did ObiWanShinobi have actual scumreads at the time he said that he would be willing to lynch boxerfred. If he did, then this is very suspicious. If not, then I'm less sure. I'll try and check that tonight as well.
It's literally what you said.
I'm quoting it from your own post.
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On January 03 2016 12:47 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2016 12:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On January 03 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote:I didn't know I needed reasons to kill someone useless - I can concede that someone is probably town and useless but that doesn't make being useless a good thing. So then the question becomes, did ObiWanShinobi have actual scumreads at the time he said that he would be willing to lynch boxerfred. If he did, then this is very suspicious. If not, then I'm less sure. I'll try and check that tonight as well. It's literally what you said. I'm quoting it from your own post. Yeah I'm not sure where the disconnect is here. I think he's saying when you said you'd be willing to lynch BF, you having other scumreads would make you suspicious. And you said you were scum reading TT. So you did have at least one other scumread. But he called you out on reading comprehension? What did I miss?
I'm also sort of confused, so I'm asking.
Sort of off topic, but did he seem somewhat annoyed to you? He seemed sort of annoyed while he was here.
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Alright, I just wanted to make sure.
His annoyance makes him far more likely to be town, fyi.
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I'm going back to killing Onegu in the interim.
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On January 03 2016 14:51 ritoky wrote:
obi do you think i am mafia?
Not really?
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On January 03 2016 14:56 ritoky wrote:
I am asking if you think I am mafia to both of you because I would like you to explain why I wasn't roleblocked when I was clearly trying to feign that I was shooting between damdred and onegu. Why is that shot allowed through if onegu is mafia?
No offense, but I don't know and I don't really care that much.
This isn't really relevant towards me at all.
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On January 03 2016 23:50 nooniansoong wrote:
3. Onegu - maybe scum
8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) - maybe scum
9. Exo_ - definitely scum
15. Glowingbear - probably not scum
17. Trfel - definitely scum
19. The Shining - definitely scum
24. Alakaslam - maybe scum
Why on Exo/GB?
And explain Trfel to me too pls.
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