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N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 06:08 GMT
#611
On December 27 2015 15:06 Alakaslam wrote:
And clever hints are still omgus if they're baseless, so back it up. Why'm I scum bro? Besides pointing out what you do as scummy?

That post is scummy as all hell

Never said you were scum..."bro".
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 06:12 GMT
#614
Also Slam i can't understand this passive-agressive attitude you're giving me.
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 06:15 GMT
#617
On December 27 2015 15:12 ritoky wrote:
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On December 27 2015 15:07 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:05 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:05 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:02 N e s s wrote:
"He's scum but I don't want to kill him now"


You're putting words in my mouth there hun, thats not what i said in the post.

What i said is more of "He might be scum but i'm not going to jump to that conclusion."

Same difference. Scum have to make their words politically pretty or they'll be obvious of course.

Yeah no. You'd enjoy my flip as town

You're calling me out as scum for little to no evidence supporting it other then a post that was meant to say that i didn't think of someone as scum.

The post was scummy as all hell bro

I'm sure it was, buddy

this game is no fun, more frustrating in that matter.


you have no votes on you, multiple people think you're town, and 1 of your 2 scum reads is currently leading in votes and slated to be lynched.....why are you frustrated exactly? because everyone hasn't awarded you the title of town jesus? i don't mean to sound like a dick, but i am legit confused....it's 12 hrs into your first game here where most people have no information and some people's job is to actively lie and some people find your play questionable....how is that unreasonable or frustrating?

The reason i find it frustration is because all of the scum reads people are doing on me. Like jesus the only logical scum read on me was HF's, and thats even been dissmissed. I feel like i'm spending more time right now having to defend myself then getting to enjoy the game.

that or i'm just a whinney b****.
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 06:19 GMT
#619
On December 27 2015 15:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 15:08 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:06 Alakaslam wrote:
And clever hints are still omgus if they're baseless, so back it up. Why'm I scum bro? Besides pointing out what you do as scummy?

That post is scummy as all hell

Never said you were scum..."bro".

This is even worse.

If you are going to parse implications with emotes into posts and then back out when called out, you are playing textbook scum that has been caught here before.

So

As either alignment you should rethink these ones.

Why am I scum? Because as much as I H8 rayn (), I really respect his reads (most of the time) and he somehow has EXO as town

So

You're next on my list unless you can prove that I have 1. Been asserting you were 100% scum before the 2. That you must prove, which is that the read I draw from your emotes and implications is based on a misunderstanding.

So

You have to prove that I was actually calling you scum before misunderstanding you later and calling you scum because you were backing out of implications.

Jeez, case proven.

I'm not even gonna bother with you saying i'm scum right now, TL mafia is more annoying to me then other forums i've played on.

Also, that scum traits guide is pointless. Keep reading those guide tho.
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 06:23 GMT
#623
On December 27 2015 15:13 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 15:08 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 15:06 Alakaslam wrote:
And clever hints are still omgus if they're baseless, so back it up. Why'm I scum bro? Besides pointing out what you do as scummy?

That post is scummy as all hell

Never said you were scum..."bro".

This is even worse.

If you are going to parse implications with emotes into posts and then back out when called out, you are playing textbook scum that has been caught here before.

So

As either alignment you should rethink these ones.

Why am I scum? Because as much as I H8 rayn (), I really respect his reads (most of the time) and he somehow has EXO as town

So

You're next on my list unless you can prove that I have 1. Been asserting you were 100% scum before the 2. That you must prove, which is that the read I draw from your emotes and implications is based on a misunderstanding.

So

You have to prove that I was actually calling you scum before misunderstanding you later and calling you scum because you were backing out of implications.

Also i understand you're calling me out but get to the point, i don't understand what you're saying with your grammer.
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 06:54 GMT
#641
On December 27 2015 15:46 Alakaslam wrote:
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On December 27 2015 13:11 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.

It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion.

Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart.

What if he's changed his play style?

But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on.

Well here is where we disagree..
And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means.

But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do.

Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town.

Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point?

TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething).
Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think.

Yeah i have been reading your posts, i just wanted your general gathering of who you think is scum.

This subtlety had done it.

Scum players are generally quite a bit better than you may be used to here; that's been mucking with your reasoning and play style.

Assume scum is like 3 steps ahead of us. We might catch them that way.

thx fam
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 16:41 GMT
#915
On December 27 2015 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what GlowingBear did:

Scumreads Ness for asking useless questions.
HF agrees with GB (but somehow still scumreads him?!?!?).
Makes a "better" post on Ness.
GB waits for Ness to answer HF's post (gets scumread for it too obvs...)
Focuses on other things (gets scumread for it....).
Ness answers.
Ness' answer doesn't please GB (gets scumread for it too..)
GB asks a follow up question -- reads.
Ness gives basically nothing...
GB asks another legit question.
Ness answers basically nothing.
GB still scumreads him (gets scumread for that one too.-...)

Something is really fucking wrong here.

Not really no rayn.
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 16:52 GMT
#938
On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.

Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.

No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi

I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything.

This post is scummy imo.

Scum

Ticktock
Exo

Ticktock isn't focused in the game at all, he even said it as a post, and that post of his above is making me think he's scum.
And Exo because i thought he was town earlier in game, but to me him getting mad is more of him going all Gung Ho on everybody.

But if vivax ever makes a defense, i'm going to change my vote to TickTock.
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 16:55 GMT
#942
On December 28 2015 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 28 2015 01:52 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.

Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.

No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi

I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything.

This post is scummy imo.

Scum

Ticktock
Exo

Ticktock isn't focused in the game at all, he even said it as a post, and that post of his above is making me think he's scum.
And Exo because i thought he was town earlier in game, but to me him getting mad is more of him going all Gung Ho on everybody.

But if vivax ever makes a defense, i'm going to change my vote to TickTock.



ummmmmmmmmm, so you're giving him a free pass?

No, i'm not...but that last sentence is kinda hammy, what i meant was if Vivax ever makes a defense good enough, then i'm voting for TT.
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:01 GMT
#950
On December 28 2015 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 01:41 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what GlowingBear did:

Scumreads Ness for asking useless questions.
HF agrees with GB (but somehow still scumreads him?!?!?).
Makes a "better" post on Ness.
GB waits for Ness to answer HF's post (gets scumread for it too obvs...)
Focuses on other things (gets scumread for it....).
Ness answers.
Ness' answer doesn't please GB (gets scumread for it too..)
GB asks a follow up question -- reads.
Ness gives basically nothing...
GB asks another legit question.
Ness answers basically nothing.
GB still scumreads him (gets scumread for that one too.-...)

Something is really fucking wrong here.

Not really no rayn.

Please explain what happened then.

He didn't ask me a legit question if i can remember correctly, it wasn't even a question at all.

He said "i find it amusing you don't know the reason we were voting moose".

something along those lines. I don't even see how you think thats wrong at all....
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:07 GMT
#954
On December 28 2015 02:03 Vivax wrote:
HF just mad cuz his team isnt playing

...smh you're putting no effort at all into this game.

who do you think is scum, and what do you think about HF wanting to lynch you?
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#959
On December 28 2015 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So let me get this straight:

HF and Ness both think my interpretation of GB's posts is not correct.
Regardless of why i think what i do (either i am mafia or missing something) GB does not correct me. In the case on HF and Ness being right, GB not correcting me should mean GB HAS TO BE MAFIA for them, there is literally no other explanation since there should be zero reason for GB to let me say stuff that is just --- incorrect and he 100% knows it.

Neither of them is voting for GB....



Oh! Silliness, i love it!

Smh i'm not going to vote for GB, because while i have a gut feeling of him being mafia, theres nothing to support it yet :p
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:13 GMT
#960
On December 28 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 02:01 N e s s wrote:
On December 28 2015 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 28 2015 01:41 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what GlowingBear did:

Scumreads Ness for asking useless questions.
HF agrees with GB (but somehow still scumreads him?!?!?).
Makes a "better" post on Ness.
GB waits for Ness to answer HF's post (gets scumread for it too obvs...)
Focuses on other things (gets scumread for it....).
Ness answers.
Ness' answer doesn't please GB (gets scumread for it too..)
GB asks a follow up question -- reads.
Ness gives basically nothing...
GB asks another legit question.
Ness answers basically nothing.
GB still scumreads him (gets scumread for that one too.-...)

Something is really fucking wrong here.

Not really no rayn.

Please explain what happened then.

He didn't ask me a legit question if i can remember correctly, it wasn't even a question at all.

He said "i find it amusing you don't know the reason we were voting moose".

something along those lines. I don't even see how you think thats wrong at all....

Dude you sound like saying "i don't think you are town" somehow means a different thing that "i think you are mafia"... What a way to argue about semantics.

ahem, already explained it to you ^-^

Also you're no fun agent hydra
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:17 GMT
#966
On December 28 2015 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me ask you something

What did you not understand on the wagoning on Moosy doosy?

Definitely not a question at all?
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:45 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:56 N e s s wrote:
Alrighty! So, heres my defense.

First off i’d like to clarify that this is in no way meant to make anyone look like scum.

Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two:


Alright, you really want to know what i hoped to get out of these questions? Some future feedback, a guide to these players thoughts. If you feel like knowing where i originally found this strategy, heres one of the forums i play mafia on.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?323476-1984-Mafia-Day-One/page7

At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything.


You’re right here, me not being able to come up with a logical lynch reading? Thats true. Honestly i should have thought that question out a bit more. But, wanna know something? Its also true in it of itself. There was no backbone to call someone scum at the time.

but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all.


...smh you know why i didn’t include MoosyGoosey in my questions? No reason to, like i just said. Also when i said “i can’t understand why you guys are lynching mooseygoosey” How does that give you qualms? Hell, in it of itself its me trying to ask everyone WHY they were doing going to lynch mooseygoosey. Might i remind you of this-

Band wagoning early? Thats suspicious.

Why would you band wagon this early with no reads?



Even though i didn’t explicitly say moose in the quote, its still me asking why would you band wagon this early with no reads. Supporting me not wanting to lynch anyone in my questions thread. To which, i recieved this which discontinued me being sus of why people wanted to lynch moose.

Though it's tempting to play with you a little longer, I'll let you in on a secret.

On teamliquid, we usually just banter around a little at the start to get the ball rolling. It gets serious when there's reason to get serious.


If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for.


this. this rubs me the wrong way.

1)Again, if you don’t understand what i was trying to receive from those questions (which, again, i’ve said if you don’t know click that link above.) Why would you state this when theres already been answers to it?
2)Blending in? How is that blending in when i’ve been active in the thread? I’m posting and asking questions, defending myself and giveing my opinions. Yet, if you think i have a mafia agenda like you say i do(Plus at the time i made the questions was litterally my ONLY post) why are you not voting to lynch me?
3)You say i’m not making intuitive questions when you said my first 2 questions were analytical.

1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions?

2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal?

3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square?


Smh answered those first 2 already.

but that 3rd one is a bit of you saying my questions are stupid. Sarcasm at its finest.

But regardless, i don’t think you’re scum flare. You remind me a bit of a friend i have who plays much like you. So, do i think you’re scum? Not at all.


Let me ask you something

What did you not understand on the wagoning on Moosy doosy?

Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to?


It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from

Also an explanation to WHY he asks the question.

It's amusing... Like.. Magic! How things become something that they are not.

anddd i said after that first quote~

"um, because we're lynching someone with no reason to?"

And the explanation showed up.
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:17 GMT
#967
On December 28 2015 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"Let's just read the explanation and ignore the original question which i answered unstatisfyably and call it fishy"


Yeah, bud, you're not getting anywhere right now
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:18 GMT
#969
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:19 GMT
#970
^me rn
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:21 GMT
#972
Lols,

anyyyyyway, i'm gonna go eat Breakfast ^-^
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:23 GMT
#974
On December 28 2015 02:22 Coagulation wrote:
bacon?

ye, mom made pancakes too
N e s s
Profile Joined December 2015
105 Posts
December 27 2015 17:34 GMT
#988
On December 28 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 01:52 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.

Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.

No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi

I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything.

This post is scummy imo.

Scum

Ticktock
Exo

Ticktock isn't focused in the game at all, he even said it as a post, and that post of his above is making me think he's scum.
And Exo because i thought he was town earlier in game, but to me him getting mad is more of him going all Gung Ho on everybody.

But if vivax ever makes a defense, i'm going to change my vote to TickTock.


What's your read on Sicklucker atm?

Nothing anymore, i think i just scum read him because i was frustrated at the time.
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