my dilemma is his.

Everything says I should lynch Exo. He's repeatedly given me nothing to work with and tried to paint me mafia for doing towie things. He's not particularly excited about playing and deserves to be lynched. Frankly I hope he's scum because I don't want to think he acts like an uncompromising dick when he's town.

The problem is, I townread him on day 1.

I usually trust my early reads much more than I trust my later reads that are influenced by things like flips etc.

It's tempting to simply try to ignore Exo, just in the off chance my day 1 read was right, and focus on trying to find the other mafia. But that's also a lot of effort.

so meeehhhhh....

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 15 2016 21:24 GMT

#5098

The ritoky thing also pointed to exo.

Which means it's also the simple solutions and I like those.

still, I don't know. I'll force myself to read shining's and damdred's filter tomorrow. I'm going to sort of ignore Onegu I think because it's so mechanically unlikely he is mafia. I am sort of fine to lose if that was some massive gambit to get a guy lynched that everyone wanted to lynch anyway.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 15 2016 21:27 GMT

#5099

although as I stood up after writing that I remember someone posted filter lenghts and onegu has by far the shortest one. It's kinda tempting to just lynch up that list too.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 15 2016 21:27 GMT

#5100

On January 15 2016 03:23 nooniansoong wrote:
palmar - 20 pages
damdred - 18 pages
me - 15 pages
exo - 15 pages
shining - 10 pages
onegu - 6 pages

This sort of points to damdred town. He's generally a low volume poster yet he is 2nd highest of remaining people.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 15 2016 21:28 GMT

#5101

also jesus fuck how could anyone think I'm mafia this game. I think this is now my 3rd biggest game of all time (after XXX and imperial).

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 15 2016 21:28 GMT

#5102

although I might be forgetting a game or two, I haven't verified.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 16 2016 00:02 GMT

#5108

On January 16 2016 07:47 Onegu wrote:
Having trouble getting obs to transfer to youtube to post my case...

you're making a video case

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 16 2016 00:03 GMT

#5109

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 16 2016 00:03 GMT

#5110

On January 16 2016 08:33 nooniansoong wrote:
@Palmar, can you point to exactly what made you think Exo was town and we can look at it again and reconsider?

it was something regarding the mason claims

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 16 2016 00:04 GMT

#5111

On December 28 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:
Exo is probably town. Also, I've read about 10 posts in the thread now and checked a few filter lengths. I'm glad rayn is playing and HF has a shorter than expected filter. But I haven't really read anything from either of them yet.

The reason I'm giving exo a maybe townread is his tinfoil hat theory regarding the mason claims. Most players who construct convoluted conspiracy theories, end up being townies. (If Exo is mafia, he would already know whether or not one or more of the mason claimers are mafia, so creating a theory becomes both more difficult, and it would make him worry about appearing to have extra information).

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 16 2016 00:08 GMT

#5112

On December 28 2015 01:58 ExO_ wrote:
I don't think rsoultin breadcrumbed coag. No mention of anything remotely related to him until after somebody else mentions it in the thread. then she hops right onto the idea that she breadcrumbed him.

I don't believe rsoultin/coag are masons. I don't necessarily think they are scum buddies either. I think a huge variety of things could be happening here. but when rsoultin has been accused of being scum so far she kinda just goes "shrug nothing I can do to convince you guys". So I think rsoultin is scum, and coag is some non-scum role kinda just piggy bagging off rsoultin's "bread crumbing" to make up for his lack of posting.

essentially the thing is, why come up with this theory if you already know that neither of the players claiming mason are mafia.

Scum tend to not do strange things.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 16 2016 00:15 GMT

#5114

well I don't think that matters, I'm lynching the scummiest player regardless of potential associative reads.

I don't think mafia would care if they win today, or win the next day, so there is no incentive not to bus.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

January 16 2016 15:24 GMT

#5138

I love how onegu straight up talks about some game where he fake-claimed town vigilante and then goes "that's the only OTHER time I've fake claimed as mafia".

#thescumslipsarereal

(I have no idea if this means anything...)