for real though

surface says exo must be scum.

the simple solution is ritoky bought a mislynch by saccing himself.

Exo is thus scum.

simple solution (as I've already explained in detail a few days back) is that both damdred and onegu are town.

simple solution is that obi must be town.

so it's kush or shining. I'd lean towards kush, mostly because he's been too right on me this entire game.

I like simple solutions.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 11 2016 23:00 GMT

#4963

Don't sleep on shining though, I have no idea why damdred townreads him so much, and while he has occasionally sounded townie in thread it's... not enough really

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 11 2016 23:14 GMT

#4969

##vote ritoky

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 09:29 GMT

#4976

In hindsight it was supremely dumb to let you shoot a random townie and claim it was "to confirm onegu and damdred"

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 17:17 GMT

#4985

On January 13 2016 01:12 nooniansoong wrote:
can someone recap the case for onegu being town? or link to it or wahtever

essentially it's not much in hindsight.

The point is, if he is mafia he cannot have known TT was gunsmith (ie: if mafia knows he's gunsmith, they also know he can just claim "uh, no I'm not red, I'm gunsmith").

Thus, if onegu is mafia, he claimed a red check on a random player mafia had no idea what would flip, and a player who was already a very likely candidate to be lynched.

Essentially, there is literally no value for mafia in sacrificing 1 scum for 1 town that half of town wanted to lynch anyway.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 17:18 GMT

#4986

Basically, if Onegu is scum, he must have convinced himself that town would indeed forgive him for claiming red check on a random guy that flipped town, otherwise it's just a retarded play.

idk, it seems super unlikely, but who knows really

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 17:20 GMT

#4987

how many are left now, is it 5v3 or something?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 17:22 GMT

#4988

so we lynch ritoky and one guy dies tonight. it'll be 4v2, if we lynch correctly then it's 3v1

so technically, we could not lynch ritoky today unless we desperately want scum to take another shot

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 17:23 GMT

#4989

meh

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 17:24 GMT

#4990

I know it's impatient and bad and maybe, just maybe, there'll be some info from the night kill (although if mafia wants there to be no info they can just shoot coag). But I almost don't want to wait some 90+ hours to actually get a lynch that matters.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 17:29 GMT

#4993

On January 13 2016 02:26 nooniansoong wrote:
Palamar arwnt there 2 scum left after we kill ritoky

that's what I said.

today it's 5v3. If we lynch correctly (ritoky) we get to continue
tomorrow it'll be 4v2. If we lynch correctly we get to continue
3rd day it'll be 3v1, if we lynch correctly we win

The whole point is any mislynch is an instant loss. I'm just impatient so I don't care if I mislynch today or in 2 days, and I'd kinda rather be alive to actually got a non-retarded lynch in than watch lazy people lose in 3v1 lylo or something.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 12 2016 17:31 GMT

#4994

On January 13 2016 02:25 nooniansoong wrote:
But it's not a 1 for 1 because onegu is still alive.

Your argument hinges on onegu thinking it would be a 1v1, but he probably knew it wouldn't be.

Add to that the fact that onegu has fake claimed as mafia before. I think koshi said that.

Also ritoky townread onegu (this was before ritoky fake claimed) for not being joyful.
This meta tone read is an easy way for ritoky to townread his scumbuddy.

yes it hinges on that.

the point is, it's hard to gamble (as mafia) that you can get away with flat out lying and getting a townie lynched AND in addition gambling the townie doesn't have a claimable role.

and the benefit is so small

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

January 13 2016 23:23 GMT

#5019

On January 14 2016 08:15 Onegu wrote:

Show nested quote +

Kush I cant read ever. I actually need to go over him. But really some of the things he has done this game have been really townie.

Like what?

you don't think I'm mafia, right? Do you think that in a sea of shitty townies kush just happened to be the one who got my read right?

It bothers me so much and I don't know