I was thinking about the game and I now think Ness is more likely to be town since he simply fucked off, which means his frustration with TL Mafia was probably genuine.

I've been thinking and rethinking HF, and I think he is probably Mafia for his play on day1, scumreading Tictock but not going for his lynch, only when people decided to do the shenanigans. This play of taking the risk of hammering his scum partner to get towncred makes sense if you think about it. It's exactly the argument he is bringing to the table ("why would I try to hammer my partner at the EoD?"). + there was this point where he said I was setting up a lynch on him because Tictock was going to fljp Mafia. He KNEW Tictock was going to flip Mafia and used this to pre-emptively defend himself and fabricate a reason to go against me. There was also a post where he said "should I continue calling GB Mafia or stick to pushing the TMI reasons? Decisions decisions" which felt completely off.

Palmar also came to the thread out of nowhere and had this unreasoned scum read on me reinforcing bad suspicions on me. It made no sense at all. His play has been extremely lackluster also, with apparently 0 interest in solving the game.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 01 2016 17:08 GMT

#3046

On January 02 2016 01:20 ExO_ wrote:
6.5 hours to go, man this day feels like it's taking forever

Yeh.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

January 01 2016 17:25 GMT

#3047

Bad gb is bad. Just admit that I'm better than you at finding mafia already. Bf and TT now.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

January 01 2016 17:33 GMT

#3048

I thought your earliest presumption was that if TT was town I was mafia and now it's switched? Not to mention I correctly called out TT's alignment but didn't want to claim any credit for it throughout the whole game? Does that sound like mafia me? I don't think so.

What you're also saying is that not only did I call TT mafia through the day and not voting him (but was telling people to stay on TT) I was successfully predicting shenanigans just so I could look good and be the hammer vote but just in time not to be. That's a lot of assumptions of me being prophetic.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

January 01 2016 17:34 GMT

#3049

And N E S S is probably town because he was the main target of TT at the start of the game.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

January 01 2016 17:45 GMT

#3050

On January 02 2016 02:33 Holyflare wrote:
I thought your earliest presumption was that if TT was town I was mafia and now it's switched? Not to mention I correctly called out TT's alignment but didn't want to claim any credit for it throughout the whole game? Does that sound like mafia me? I don't think so.

What you're also saying is that not only did I call TT mafia through the day and not voting him (but was telling people to stay on TT) I was successfully predicting shenanigans just so I could look good and be the hammer vote but just in time not to be. That's a lot of assumptions of me being prophetic.

My presumption was that it doesn't make sense, from a townie perspective, to agree that someone is most likely mafia but not vote him when you have no other better target to pursue (Vivax claimed at that moment). So you've said Tictock was mafia but kept looking elsewhere to try and form a wagon on a townie (that townie = me).

What gave me pause was that you actually couldn't possibly know if you did hammer Tictock or not. But again, since you've never voted him before, why deciding to hammer him at that moment? Well, if you hammer him, you gain towncred for killing a partner, if you don't, you can argue this exact thing you're arguing right now.

And come on, you don't need to foresee the shenanigan's to do this. If you see it happening and you know you will look bad once TT flips, you go to the voting thread and hammer him. You don't have to plan this before hand and you know it.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

January 01 2016 18:00 GMT

#3051

So you've said Tictock was mafia but kept looking elsewhere to try and form a wagon on a townie (that townie = me).

And that's where your pointless posts become even more pointless because I repeatedly told people to sheep rayn onto TT instead of me and even tried to get you abd SL to stop chatting pointless shit about lynching me and focus on TT.

People can just read my filter around lynch time and my case on you and find it is a gold mine of towny insight and wanting people to stay in TT

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

January 01 2016 18:04 GMT

#3052

I mean I hate everything about your post so much. You say

But it clearly shows you have no interest in this game. I voted TT so I wanted to lynch him. He did nothing to sway me otherwise. I look for more mafia, you post bull shit and I make a slam dunk case on you but still tell people to vote TT. What world does that make sense of me being mafia? None. I said we could continue the discussion about me being mafia at NIGHT which means I didn't even want you lynched over TT! Everything screams that I wanted TT to die but for some reason you're saying I didn't want any credit until shenanigans happened which I conveniently timed to look good impossibly.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

January 01 2016 18:06 GMT

#3053

I can only presume that you haven't read my easily available filter and are instead trying to discredit me at every possible turn. It's pathetic and childish if you are town because not once have you commented on the information that I used to find out TT and BF were actually mafia. You've focused on me and nothing else and that is terrible play.

If you're mafia you can continue pointlessly pushing me and having no other input into the game though and people will figure you out easily.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

January 01 2016 18:07 GMT

#3054

Surely everyone knows the best way to figure out if I'm mafia is to just not call me mafia and see if I die or not? I feel like you guys have never played with me.

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

January 01 2016 19:47 GMT

#3055

Just a reminder to hold off associations till you see my flip.

Thank you.