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On December 29 2015 17:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: And we should fucking murder Vivax straight up. Just fucking lynch him. He is either jailkeeper or he is mafia, there is no other option. If he does not die during the night we lynch him, period. There is more than black and white rayn. If there wasn't these games would be boring as fuck. I never understand why you have to think in absolutes. Because people who do stupid things are like +1 mafia even when they are town. They distract the town from actually scumhunting and finding mafia.
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On December 29 2015 17:04 ritoky wrote: so that list is: ritoky, koshi, palmar, SL, trfel, rsoul, shining, damdred wait wait wait. did Palmar switch to Rels?
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Okay guys Palmar is mafia. Palmar is so fucking mafia it hurts.
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There is no way Palmar does neither of: (1) stay on TicTock when having claimed to sheep me (2) vote Vivax after unclaim ..as town.
There is just no way and it makes Palmar 100% mafia.
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On December 29 2015 17:15 ritoky wrote: CAN YOU STOP STEALING MY THUNDER! I make a case on TT and everyone praises rayn's case; I am about to call palmar mafia and rayn calls him mafia! FUCK OFFFFFF Don't worry, we were probably both wrong on TT.
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The mafia should be:
Palmar kush Vivax BF Ness maybe Onegu. Or Koshi. Or Slam.
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TicTock what is your read on Coagulation?
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His filter is really short it should be easy to give a quick response if you haven't read it yet.
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On December 29 2015 17:19 ritoky wrote: coag is mason with rsoul rayn that's why you didn't read anything he typed. meh you blew it..... did you see tictock saying "i have no idea what rsoultin's alignment is".
ugh this is so fucking annoying... i like want to believe TT is town because it makes the shit a lot easier but i fucking can't when he again proves he is not reading the thread....
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On December 29 2015 17:26 Tictock wrote: Idk the arguing over that shit was hard to read.
I took it all with a grain of salt and never saw them really come out and say they were maybe I missed it. Yeah.. Was that because Exo yelled for pages that rsoultin needs to confirm she is mason with Coag by telling in the mason QT his username and the other forum they have played and Coag did confirm that.
Or did you forget about this all too?
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There is literally no way Palmar is town with his actions. No way.
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On December 29 2015 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: The mafia should be:
Palmar kush Vivax BF Ness maybe Onegu. Or Koshi. Or Slam. ritoky what do you think of this? Ignore Vivax if you want to, i am not going to argue about that one because he should be lynched on D2 in case he is not dead. Let's also ignore TT because i have no fucking idea what to make out of him and i honestly don't care anymore, i hope he just gets copped and the problem is solved.
Anything to add, subtract?
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On December 29 2015 17:41 ritoky wrote: has anyone played with moosy more than once? and can they confirm the whole gives a shit = mafia; fucks off/does dumb shit = town read that he self-proclaims? can confirm. he can get vigged too. he is basically mislynch number one if he is town and therefore +1 scum.
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On December 29 2015 17:45 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 17:41 ritoky wrote: has anyone played with moosy more than once? and can they confirm the whole gives a shit = mafia; fucks off/does dumb shit = town read that he self-proclaims? It's true, but MoosyDoosy is probably capable of replicating it as mafia, since not caring really isn't hard to fake.I'd actually still go with it, I imagine that MoosyDoosy would have a fun time doing random stuff as mafia in a game like this, but I do note that MoosyDoosy didn't complain about rolling town at all, which I've come to expect from him. I'm still embarrassed about my errant read on MoosyDoosy last game, especially since I figured out the problem with the read and then forgot what it was. So I'm kind of ignoring him this game ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) I'm tired and babbling, but to this point MoosyDoosy's self-meta is true. yeah , the bolded is completely true, but the fact is he is not caring if he is town either, so he is just a fucking coinflip and the best vigi shot. 100%.
On December 29 2015 17:45 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 17:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: The mafia should be:
Palmar kush Vivax BF Ness maybe Onegu. Or Koshi. Or Slam. ritoky what do you think of this? Ignore Vivax if you want to, i am not going to argue about that one because he should be lynched on D2 in case he is not dead. Let's also ignore TT because i have no fucking idea what to make out of him and i honestly don't care anymore, i hope he just gets copped and the problem is solved. Anything to add, subtract? the subbed player is a coinflip...probably just ignore until posts shit worth reading. i have no read on moosy so add him to the bottom tier. i also am not sold GB is town, so i would add him below ness. i remember kush kinda telling me to fuck off and i liked that, so i would move him into onegu/koshi/slam/moosy range I agree on OO. I think the way and the confidence he went on with HF makes more sense from town perspective than it makes from mafia. The thing with kush is -- he isn't really trying to find scum. It's like... ugh.. a meta thing where he just fucking disagrees with me for the sake of disagreeing based NOT on the argument, he isn't even trying to understand the argument.... It becomes even more likely he is scum if TT is town, as i said. Basically the only smart thing kush has said in this game is actually the shit he brought on Shining, which would (unfortunately for Shining) indicate that Shining is also mafia. kush has a tendency to ONLY make really good points on his scumbuddies when he is scum because he can't fabricate good looking reads on townies. When kush is town he sometimes actually plays really well, but here, when he ONLY calls one player mafia for REASONS -- after ~90 pages, it strongly indicates he is scum, and also that the player (Shining) is scum too.
So yeah, i'd add Shining to the scumlist, especially when kush flips mafia. We should probably lynch him after Palmar and Vivax or only after Palmar if the Vivax issue is solved during the night.
So like lynch: (Vivax) --> Palmar --> kush. Then look very very closely into shining and lynch shining/boxerfred (or both) Then lynch Ness if he continues doing what he has (or like... hasn't) Then look at Onegu/Koshi/Slam further....
Check TT to confirm his affiliation.
That's what i suggest at the moment.
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EBWOP:
I think the way and the confidence he went on with HF makes more sense from town perspective than it makes from mafia. this was about GB if it wasn't clear.
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There is no way Palmar is going to squirm out of this one. Everyone who knows Palmar and reads the EOD / my posts about Palmar here, know he is mafia and will push him regardless of if i am alive on D2 or not.
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On December 29 2015 18:06 ritoky wrote: we don't get vig shots until n2 tho right? cuz GS distributes n1? yeah but i am suggesting to not waste a check on Moosy, worst thing is he comes up as mafia and is miller (or town as GF) and town wastes a lynch on him AFTER a copclaim....
Just shoot him whenever you have a chance if this is how he is going to play.
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On December 29 2015 18:10 ritoky wrote: btw rayn do you have an OWS read? I think he is town. But weakest of my townreads. There are already alot people who don't give any fucks about the game (or don't manage to produce proper posts) and they can't all be mafia. At least he is trying to put his vote on where he thinks it's best and explain it, while not with many words, with something that makes sense.. That's my interpretation. The thing that now makes me wonder about his towniness is if TT is in fact town. Then it's true that he looks worse. But still, he doesn't look as bad as the scumreads or people i am waffling on more.
I believe i have seen him be "lazy" like this before, maybe even gotten lynched for it. I will check that out later today.
On December 29 2015 18:10 Trfel wrote: Kushm4sta is still my strongest scumread. I'm pretty confident in it.
But anyway, good night. And I'm not so sure that Vivax is mafia, I was kind of thinking he was town, but I didn't check what he did at End of Day. Vivax didn't do anything worth anything...
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Especially if you know i moved off from TT you also know that i moved to EXACTLY Vivax and the onöy reason i would ever do that is that Vivax unclaimed which makes everything you said in your post a lie since "you just now found out Vivax unclaimed".
Your story does not add up.
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