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On January 02 2016 01:57 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar also came to the thread out of nowhere and had this unreasoned scum read on me reinforcing bad suspicions on me. It made no sense at all. His play has been extremely lackluster also, with apparently 0 interest in solving the game. Like he's out of touch with reality. I did not come to the thread out of nowhere, it was HIM that randomly asked about my argument that he couldn't be bothered reading, to which I responded with a scumread. lackluster is a nice word to throw around when you want to accuse someone of being mafia. I'll respond with "GB has been lackluster!". Hah, got'em. | ||
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On January 04 2016 22:58 sicklucker wrote: ah man. I woke up last night puking. And today I gotta play in the finals of the american dota 2 major qualifiers against the favorites to win. If we even playing having it at 2pm when people work without using subs is so bullshit. No wonder amateur teams never winXD What I generally do is pick skeleton king and get refresher. I'm 3k | ||
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On January 04 2016 23:25 nooniansoong wrote: The way I feel about it is alakaslam is kind of a coinflip but a better lynch than GB. Why not gb? | ||
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On January 04 2016 23:25 nooniansoong wrote: The way I feel about it is alakaslam is kind of a coinflip but a better lynch than GB. In fact your entire filter seems very, very flip floppy on GB. (yes, I'm super fast at going through filters) You first ask him about some broken logic that you didn't really explain later (that I could see) When Koshi said GB would never be scum you asked him "why not". Which usually indicates you think he could be Quite a bit later you said he was probably not mafia and talked about some "good townie interactions" And finally you thought my point on GB is clever and original. Like you have no firm stance on GB, which I don't really mind, but clearly you seem to have a strong enough stance to make the call that it is worse than a coinflip lynch (in your own words, slam). | ||
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On January 04 2016 23:42 NocturneMage wrote: I'm on a real time crunch and I realise end of cycle is today, so I'm going to focus on the Palmar/Slam wagons with the little time I have. If there's any reason I should be focusing elsewhere, let me know. Glowingbear, you can drop me as a candidate too. | ||
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First off, the game started on a weekend, literally everyone on TL mafia knows I don't play on weekends except the bare minimum. What happened is this: 1) I have little time to play and no really good case, so I sheep rayn onto tictock 2) Vivax is unccd JK (he wasn't, but he claimed that and no one counterclaimed him) 3) When I come back to the thread rayn has moved to Vivax 4) I assume 2 things: a) rayn moved off tictock because he had a reason to think he wasn't mafia b) rayn went to vivax out of spite (vivax was being a real dumbass on day 1) 5) so I announced I'm willing to switch to another last minute vote, and mention kush and gb (if I recall correctly) 6) koshi starts a wagon on rels 7) I open rels' filter, see that it is less than a page, and decide it's worth the shot 8) rels dies 9) rayn goes nuts because he can be a real dumbass at times It's very simple and very true. Also note how kush and gb are both alive  | ||
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On January 04 2016 23:45 nooniansoong wrote: by clever I mean showing intelligence. Not that it's correct. I don't even remember the point though lol. my point is the one I've been harping on about, the "hey he asked a question that he should know the answer to if he was reading" ie: he posted just to post. | ||
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On January 04 2016 23:52 NocturneMage wrote: This is why I'm trying to get to Holyflare's filter if I can, I know he was scumreading GB and Slam and I have heard from others Holyflare is one of the best town players on TL even though I've never played with him. yeah hf is at least an average player, he may even be a good town player if we exclude some of the people who are actually good. | ||
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To all the other dead people who might be reading along. Fuck you. | ||
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On January 04 2016 23:55 NocturneMage wrote: Another callout of meta misrepresentation by Palmar. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... are you mafia? Because that's how mafia talk. If you just read like 4 posts on from this exact post, you'll see my reply: On December 30 2015 00:54 Palmar wrote: Why would I do that when I don't believe that myself? If I believed that was your mafia meta I'd be calling you mafia wouldn't I? You literally make no sense. | ||
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It'll become scummy and shitty to call me mafia. That point is not here yet, but it will come. | ||
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Vivax was more of a "you're a moron so you should be shot". Remember also that town has no KP on n1 so it's irrelevant if I want him shot or not. At that point in the game I didn't assume we'd mislynch 2 days in a row and mafia would get all their kills through AND the town gun would shoot town. At that time I thought maybe we'd have time to clear out some trash (ie players who are probably not mafia but have done something ridiculously anti-town which would make it really tough to have them around in lylo. Like vivax). Like I want you to understand that vivax claimed JK. We apparently have an inattentive or stoic JK, but there's a bunch of people who as JK would have impulsively counterclaimed vivax, and therefore given mafia the jk on day 1. There's no way for me or vivax to know the JK is going to be someone who thinks things through/takes things slowly. They made the same point because they're parroting each other. Hell on day 2 half of town tried to call me mafia for switching off of confirmed mafia tictock, then he flipped town. The point is that everyone just uses whatever reasons they hear from somewhere in the thread. It's the reason this phenomenon I call "lynch inertia" exists. In fact, the lynch inertia is often so strong that I actually think I myself am probably a liability in lylo, simply because it's so easy for mafia to paint me as "someone who everyone has called mafia throughout the game". Like they can shed all responsibility and just lynch me, because it's much easier to say. "Well I'm uncertain so I'll just sheep artanis/rayn/koshi" than it is to build an actual case. The point is people will sheep reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that. But treating an individual reason as stronger because multiple individuals make them is bullshit. | ||
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