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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:22 GMT
#2340
I'm actually quite bummed out scum's going to probably let me live now
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:23 GMT
#2342
On December 30 2015 01:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:18 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:10 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:05 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 00:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also if I'm right on Palmar I don't think OWS is scum because I don't think two scum are going to be the only ones to attack me when everyone else is townreading me.

But you definitely think the one guy who does is scum.

Especially the one that both lead the suspicion and the one that actually provided reasoning.

If you are somehow town, you should dismiss my suspicions as just that and actually consider me more favorably for actually exploring things that others aren't exploring.

OWS is barely attacking you, he said like one sentence about you. Even I am not really attacking you, I just pointed out a tonal thing that looks a bit off and could make you mafia, and you decided to make a u-turn on everything because of those two little things.

There is no way that you genuinely 100% believe that my suspicion of you can ONLY come from mafia perspective.

No, you have no focus. You haven't had focus all game. You're just spewing out what you think gets you townread. Your effort has not been in finding scum.

I don't need to convince you that you're scum though.

At what point did you discover I had no focus and thus I must be killed with a vengeance? Because I don't recall you mentioning anything of the sort before right now?

What do you even mean by focus?

You're prodding everywhere but you're not actually doing anything. Everything you do and read seems convenient and focused more on just posting things than anything else.


No I'm not. The only thing that is barely true is that yes, I am mostly interacting with the things that are in the thread when I am in the thread. Other than that, this is just bullshit.

Alright. What original thoughts have you brought to the thread?


Exo's tinfoil = town thing
GB's inconsistent questioning
HF's calling out of GB being sort of townie
Your attitude being distant/weird/uninterested
Koshi toneread

hell, just go throught the list I literally pasted a page back or so. Most of the things I think about the game are in that list.

Already mentioned by two people before you.
Already mentioned by HF.
Already agreed upon by Rayn and myself.
Extremely shitty.
Already made by me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:25 GMT
#2345
On December 30 2015 01:23 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:19 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You weren't like this in Hammertime. You weren't like this in Noir. You weren't like this in Tropical Storm. Funny thing is, in LXX you actually townread me for being fairly casual in interacting with you, yet you scumread me for it this game.

On March 20 2015 23:35 Palmar wrote:
I don't think Artanis is mafia. Like obviously this only works for me, but if he is mafia he knows I'm town and he's been fairly casual in trying to interact with me, which he wasn't at all in imperial (I know, shitty meta, but still...).

The same thing you're scumreading me for this game.

Lol.


I was mafia in that game...

jesus

So you're saying that you didn't believe in that read?

Whenever I'm mafia, I usually make reads that I'd actually believe in/follow the reasoning of if I were town presuming they're not completely inconvenient. I'd imagine it's much the same for everyone else, especially when you're townreading someone.

Whenever I'm mafia I make reads that are convenient. And I have no idea if I genuinely believed that read because I already knew you were town that game, so I just made it up on the spot because it sounded right.

Even then, there is a massive difference between casual and indifferent.

So you have no idea if you believed whether you can meta read me for being relaxed when you've used it to call me scum this game.
Yeah, okay.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:25 GMT
#2347
That sounds.. awfully convenient.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:26 GMT
#2349
On December 30 2015 01:25 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:22 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:18 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:10 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:05 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 00:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also if I'm right on Palmar I don't think OWS is scum because I don't think two scum are going to be the only ones to attack me when everyone else is townreading me.

But you definitely think the one guy who does is scum.

Especially the one that both lead the suspicion and the one that actually provided reasoning.

If you are somehow town, you should dismiss my suspicions as just that and actually consider me more favorably for actually exploring things that others aren't exploring.

OWS is barely attacking you, he said like one sentence about you. Even I am not really attacking you, I just pointed out a tonal thing that looks a bit off and could make you mafia, and you decided to make a u-turn on everything because of those two little things.

There is no way that you genuinely 100% believe that my suspicion of you can ONLY come from mafia perspective.

No, you have no focus. You haven't had focus all game. You're just spewing out what you think gets you townread. Your effort has not been in finding scum.

I don't need to convince you that you're scum though.

At what point did you discover I had no focus and thus I must be killed with a vengeance? Because I don't recall you mentioning anything of the sort before right now?

What do you even mean by focus?

You're prodding everywhere but you're not actually doing anything. Everything you do and read seems convenient and focused more on just posting things than anything else.


No I'm not. The only thing that is barely true is that yes, I am mostly interacting with the things that are in the thread when I am in the thread. Other than that, this is just bullshit.

Alright. What original thoughts have you brought to the thread?


Exo's tinfoil = town thing
GB's inconsistent questioning
HF's calling out of GB being sort of townie
Your attitude being distant/weird/uninterested
Koshi toneread

hell, just go throught the list I literally pasted a page back or so. Most of the things I think about the game are in that list.

Already mentioned by two people before you.
Already mentioned by HF.
Already agreed upon by Rayn and myself.
Extremely shitty.
Already made by me.


The fact other people have the same thoughts as me does not invalidate mine. And I doubt anyone explained the exo thing with the reason I did, although I don't quite know.

I said original thoughts. You provided none other than a read on me which is inaccurate. The exo thing was explained pretty much that way by me already.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:27 GMT
#2354
On December 30 2015 01:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:24 Vivax wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm actually quite bummed out scum's going to probably let me live now


I got a cozy room in my basement


I'm just reposting this so scum don't miss it.

You shouldn't JK me because there's a good chance they'll let me live now. If I get shot just lynch Palmar, ezpz.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:28 GMT
#2356
On December 30 2015 01:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:23 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:19 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You weren't like this in Hammertime. You weren't like this in Noir. You weren't like this in Tropical Storm. Funny thing is, in LXX you actually townread me for being fairly casual in interacting with you, yet you scumread me for it this game.

On March 20 2015 23:35 Palmar wrote:
I don't think Artanis is mafia. Like obviously this only works for me, but if he is mafia he knows I'm town and he's been fairly casual in trying to interact with me, which he wasn't at all in imperial (I know, shitty meta, but still...).

The same thing you're scumreading me for this game.

Lol.


I was mafia in that game...

jesus

So you're saying that you didn't believe in that read?

Whenever I'm mafia, I usually make reads that I'd actually believe in/follow the reasoning of if I were town presuming they're not completely inconvenient. I'd imagine it's much the same for everyone else, especially when you're townreading someone.

Whenever I'm mafia I make reads that are convenient. And I have no idea if I genuinely believed that read because I already knew you were town that game, so I just made it up on the spot because it sounded right.

Even then, there is a massive difference between casual and indifferent.

So you have no idea if you believed whether you can meta read me for being relaxed when you've used it to call me scum this game.
Yeah, okay.


Literally not what I said.

So what HAVE you said?
On December 30 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
Umm wtf artanis you said I'm mafia because I'm not aggressive then you say I'm mafia for being aggressive at the wrong places but now you're saying me pointing out gb shit is towny.......?

So wtf mafia things have I done and how on earth am I in a lynch list of 4 people????

TONE
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:34 GMT
#2363
In Imperial I believe I had 7 pages of filter at this point. And that was a massive anomaly.
Anyone that actually thinks I can be mafia this game should go back in time and sign up to Insane Mafia.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:34 GMT
#2365
On December 30 2015 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:27 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:23 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:19 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You weren't like this in Hammertime. You weren't like this in Noir. You weren't like this in Tropical Storm. Funny thing is, in LXX you actually townread me for being fairly casual in interacting with you, yet you scumread me for it this game.

On March 20 2015 23:35 Palmar wrote:
I don't think Artanis is mafia. Like obviously this only works for me, but if he is mafia he knows I'm town and he's been fairly casual in trying to interact with me, which he wasn't at all in imperial (I know, shitty meta, but still...).

The same thing you're scumreading me for this game.

Lol.


I was mafia in that game...

jesus

So you're saying that you didn't believe in that read?

Whenever I'm mafia, I usually make reads that I'd actually believe in/follow the reasoning of if I were town presuming they're not completely inconvenient. I'd imagine it's much the same for everyone else, especially when you're townreading someone.

Whenever I'm mafia I make reads that are convenient. And I have no idea if I genuinely believed that read because I already knew you were town that game, so I just made it up on the spot because it sounded right.

Even then, there is a massive difference between casual and indifferent.

So you have no idea if you believed whether you can meta read me for being relaxed when you've used it to call me scum this game.
Yeah, okay.


Literally not what I said.

So what HAVE you said?
On December 30 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
Umm wtf artanis you said I'm mafia because I'm not aggressive then you say I'm mafia for being aggressive at the wrong places but now you're saying me pointing out gb shit is towny.......?

So wtf mafia things have I done and how on earth am I in a lynch list of 4 people????

TONE


Yes which is a shit cop out from forming a read. You point out constantly things that make me towny but all those points go against what you are tone reading me for. It doesn't make sense.

I'm not pushing you for it, I asked people to look into you. I am not actually pushing for your lynch. And right now I have Palmar to lynch so eh.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:36 GMT
#2367
On December 30 2015 01:34 Holyflare wrote:
So what you're saying is that you are capable as doing it as mafia, okay.

I did 66% of what I've done so far ONCE. I've never even come close to that in the ~12 other mafia games I've played.
It's ridiculous.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:37 GMT
#2370
On December 30 2015 01:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:33 Holyflare wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:27 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:23 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:19 Palmar wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You weren't like this in Hammertime. You weren't like this in Noir. You weren't like this in Tropical Storm. Funny thing is, in LXX you actually townread me for being fairly casual in interacting with you, yet you scumread me for it this game.

[quote]
The same thing you're scumreading me for this game.

Lol.


I was mafia in that game...

jesus

So you're saying that you didn't believe in that read?

Whenever I'm mafia, I usually make reads that I'd actually believe in/follow the reasoning of if I were town presuming they're not completely inconvenient. I'd imagine it's much the same for everyone else, especially when you're townreading someone.

Whenever I'm mafia I make reads that are convenient. And I have no idea if I genuinely believed that read because I already knew you were town that game, so I just made it up on the spot because it sounded right.

Even then, there is a massive difference between casual and indifferent.

So you have no idea if you believed whether you can meta read me for being relaxed when you've used it to call me scum this game.
Yeah, okay.


Literally not what I said.

So what HAVE you said?
On December 30 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
Umm wtf artanis you said I'm mafia because I'm not aggressive then you say I'm mafia for being aggressive at the wrong places but now you're saying me pointing out gb shit is towny.......?

So wtf mafia things have I done and how on earth am I in a lynch list of 4 people????

TONE


Yes which is a shit cop out from forming a read. You point out constantly things that make me towny but all those points go against what you are tone reading me for. It doesn't make sense.

I'm not pushing you for it, I asked people to look into you. I am not actually pushing for your lynch. And right now I have Palmar to lynch so eh.


Right so let's get this straight. Your tone read on me is because I wasn't really pushing anything aggressively that wasn't my main scum read vivax during d1 but that's all you're doing too?

No, tone is about how you address people, not what you're actually doing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 16:43 GMT
#2379
On December 30 2015 01:42 Koshi wrote:
Palmar is actually who I will lynch tomorrow.

100% certain.

literally only post I will make from now on till D3.

If you could repeat Lynch Palmar at regular intervals during D2 I would be much obliged.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 17:41 GMT
#2410
On December 30 2015 02:40 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:36 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:34 boxerfred wrote:
from HF:

GlowingBear: called me out in a really awkward way yesterday and then got into a argument I think. The main thing is that he was reading a conversation about a thing, and then asked about the very thing the conversation was about. It's 100% clear he wasn't actually reading the part of the thread he asked about, he just saw something and ran with it.


On December 30 2015 02:33 boxerfred wrote:
GB confirmed not reading but that's NAI for GB


if GB flips town we should lynch HF


sorry I don't follow. Why;s that?

HF scumreads GB with the reason I quoted first ("from HF"), follows up on him just now as GB does not read the thread and asks for HF's read on Palmar. However HF already provided a huge list, containing his read on Palmar. So HF asks for a gun to shoot GB, implying GB is dumb. When asked who he'd shoot, he even says he'd shoot himself, raising irony to sarcarsm.

So we have HF pushing GB (soft pushing imho). Good thing for scum. So if HF is right, cool, nice shot, one scum down. If HF is wrong and GB is town, then HF is probably doing a good scum move. So yeah, GB/HF is either town/scum, scum/town or town/town but not scum/scum imho.

can we have a vote count?

Not Voting (24): Artanis[Xp], sicklucker, HolyFlare, Onegu, nooniansong, raynpelikoneet, Damdred, Waylanner, ExO_, Koshi, ritoky, rsoultin, MoosyDoosy, boxerfred, GlowingBear, Coagulation, Trfel, ObiWanShinobi, The Shining, Palmar, Tictock, Ness, Vivax, Alakaslam
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 17:42 GMT
#2413
It's night bb
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 17:45 GMT
#2421
On December 30 2015 02:44 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's night bb

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 08:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Night 1






Rels the VT has been lynched!

Night will end in which is Tuesday, Dec 29 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

please submit all night actions to all three hosts.



Effective immediately Waylanner has been replaced by ObviousOne



this is what I meant it doesn't have a votecount

Have you considered checking the last page of the vote thread?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 17:50 GMT
#2430
On December 30 2015 02:47 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:46 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:45 boxerfred wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:44 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:40 boxerfred wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:36 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:34 boxerfred wrote:
from HF:

GlowingBear: called me out in a really awkward way yesterday and then got into a argument I think. The main thing is that he was reading a conversation about a thing, and then asked about the very thing the conversation was about. It's 100% clear he wasn't actually reading the part of the thread he asked about, he just saw something and ran with it.


On December 30 2015 02:33 boxerfred wrote:
GB confirmed not reading but that's NAI for GB


if GB flips town we should lynch HF


sorry I don't follow. Why;s that?

HF scumreads GB with the reason I quoted first ("from HF"), follows up on him just now as GB does not read the thread and asks for HF's read on Palmar. However HF already provided a huge list, containing his read on Palmar. So HF asks for a gun to shoot GB, implying GB is dumb. When asked who he'd shoot, he even says he'd shoot himself, raising irony to sarcarsm.

So we have HF pushing GB (soft pushing imho). Good thing for scum. So if HF is right, cool, nice shot, one scum down. If HF is wrong and GB is town, then HF is probably doing a good scum move. So yeah, GB/HF is either town/scum, scum/town or town/town but not scum/scum imho.

can we have a vote count?


why is town/town unlikely?
Couldn't HF just have a bad read?? Every time someone gets a read wrong it doesn't mean they are scum.

hm? I'm not saying it's unlikely I bolded it for you. If you read it that way, sorry, I'm not thinking it's unlikely. it's prettymuch 33%


You said HF is scum if GB flips town. That would imply that town/town is unlikely right?

Yep, however when I said that, I didn't even consider town/town possibility, so I mentioned it in my follow up.

I would be really entertained if BF is scum and this spewed that one of them is scum btw.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 18:01 GMT
#2450
On December 30 2015 02:58 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote:
hf seems decent so shes scum


boxer want to explain this? is it some meta where hf only plays well when she's town?

Ha! I've always thought there was something girlish about HF. The british accent hid it well though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 18:02 GMT
#2452
These aren't baby seals, BF.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 18:38 GMT
#2455
On December 30 2015 03:30 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 02:08 rsoultin wrote:
Town v town

heard it here first :-)


no

Lynch Palmar?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
December 29 2015 18:44 GMT
#2458
On December 30 2015 03:43 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 03:30 ritoky wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:08 rsoultin wrote:
Town v town

heard it here first :-)


no

Lynch Palmar?


yes

Lynch Palmar!

LynchPalmarLynchPalmarLynchPalmar.
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