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raynpelikoneet
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On December 29 2015 04:15 Vivax wrote: No its not cause I never have this degree of thread interaction, how bad it might be, as mafia. Okay, then about 15 players in this game were just bad. But still, it doesn't make HF scum. Unless you think there is about 15 scum in this game. | ||
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On December 29 2015 04:16 Vivax wrote: i would have fucked off for several hours after the claim, for example. Mission accomplished then I go do something that isnt lying about a game I dont have to solve I have no idea what are you talking about here? | ||
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Vivax are you actually unclaiming here? | ||
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On December 29 2015 04:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh I forgot OWS and TT on there. Coloured in red so I skipped over them  post your chart real quick | ||
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On December 29 2015 04:22 ExO_ wrote: Does the gunsmith's given gun get to shoot the night he gives it, or does it have to wait until the following night? I asked earlier but if anybody answered me I didn't see it If you can't find it in the OP PM the hosts. | ||
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On December 29 2015 04:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If this is the reason people actually TR me I swear I'm going to shoot someone You mean the chart? No, if you didn't have one you would be scum.  If Vivax actually unclaimed we lynch him 100%. I don't fucking care if he is town or not but we lynch him. | ||
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On December 29 2015 04:26 ritoky wrote: what do you think of hf being so heated @ gb that he didn't even give vivax unclaiming the time of day? I don't care. If Vivax actually unclaimed he should be lynched. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Vivax | ||
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When smart people become dumb as fuck all hope is lost. | ||
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 Hey tictock. D2 just claim jailkeeper and then unclaim. Noone will ever remember they thought you were scum and you can continue sayong whatever you want. Good lynch boyz! Keep it up! | ||
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I agree that it is possible your reads post at the start of the game comes from town. So let's say you did that as town, fine. But then again we come to this: I am quoting this on parts, so it is easier to read and respond to: Rayn said he couldn't understand my reads post he quoted first here, (1)yet he had the exact same reaction to Kush revieling his smurf that I did, and (2)later questioned Ness for very similar things that I was seeing. ONE: The shit about me not reading kus of Kush's smurf I already responded to and is just not true. I wouldn't sign up for a game I didn't intend to make some effort to read, and I would read things twice as carefully if I were scum. Just kus I don't see things or react to things the same as you do doesn't mean I'm not reading. That is just not right. The difference is the following; I made that read. After i had made the read Holyflare (and someone else, maybe ritoky?) pointed out why my read is based on incorrect basis. After that, you come in and make the same read -- which you should already know is based on incorrect basis. TWO: I posted 3 posts of Ness. One he flippantly writes off trying to read Exo with a gif trying to act like it's non of his buisness, saying he might be town or mafia. He also gives a "just cause" read on Sl, then immediately backs it up with "reasons" Those posts furthered the idea that he wasn't really trying to make reads on people or think about the game, and the post regarding Exo was just one example of him going "well maybe they are town or mafia, not my problem" Okay now look at this. This is what you say about your scumread on Ness and where it was (is?) based on. Here is what i wrote about Ness: On December 27 2015 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am actually retracting from my townread on Ness. This is one thing. The other thing is he calls sicklucker mafia for "just because". Then he votes for Vivax?!?!?!? Than he says this... Bigger fish to fry? Like.... sicklucker who he has basically no read on and just calls scum? Or Vivax, who is basically a non-poster at that point? What i am saying here is that Ness had a scumread on Glowingbear. But still he didn't want to vote for Glowingbear because of "i have bigger fish to fry". Not only does he not try to actually "fry these bigger fish", he votes for Vivax -- who is a complete non-entity contentwise at this point -- instead. His only other scumreads are Vivax (for who knows why) and sicklucker (for gut reasons), so i found it very hard to understand what this "i have bigger fish to fry" means , since it doesn't fucking mean anything (as based on his reasoning, Vivax and sicklucker cannot possibly be "bigger fish" than GB), nor does he even follow up on it on ANY way. So yes, this could be really easily seen from my post - -and from my questioning from Ness after. Now go look at the posts, yours -- and mine, again: questioned Ness for very similar things that I was seeing ... does this look like a fair comparison of what i did and what you did? Not only you are completely incorrect here, the reasoning for MY SCUMREAD ON NESS i pointed out HADNT EVEN HAPPENED WHEN YOU MADE YOUR POST!! So, we come to this: In both of those cases, you are completely misrepresenting either the chain of events timelinewise or what actually happened. In both of those cases you are using my read on same person you scumread as a defense on why i should not be thinking you are mafia, and say we "said the same thing" when it is actually completely different things we are saying.... Here is a simple question to you: I can find two reasons for this. You are either... (1) ...just straight out lying, which makes you mafia, or (2) ...you haven't read the thread properly and/or are not thinking about what you read properly. With this the problem is you claim you are not, you STILL claim you are not, when i can easily prove i am right and you are 100% wrong here. This also makes you mafia, because it makes you not reading the thread, and you claim it is not true, which brings us back to you lying... (3) If you are not doing either of this, then please, tell me, and everyone else WHAT are you doing then? What is this option three i am missing because i can't fucking see it. AtE will not help you, calling people dumb will not help you. Explaining will, if you are town. If you are not you can do what the fuck you want. | ||
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Mafia please, if Vivax is not in your team, shoot him, you get a 100% jailkeeper. | ||
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TicTock / Ness (one of them is definitely mafia, i am heavily leaning on TT especially after his respone i just commented on) Vivax boxerfred noonian (especially if TT is somehow town -- kush is fucking 100% mafia there, otherwise only 90%) Koshi is probably scum too, just because i have zero reasons to townread him. I tend to not care about reading him on D1, it's basically the same thing than with geript -- i just don't have any fucking reason to townread Koshi because he isn't doing anything at all. Slam could be easily mafia. idk, just shoot him in the face. Shining said some very very weird things. I don't remember anything sicklucker has said. Onegu can die in fire. | ||
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On December 29 2015 16:21 Vivax wrote: the way HF reacted to the claim right afterwards sothere might be some interesting stuff to be found. Ill check it out after a match of doto Or you are scum and just claimed JK for shits and giggles when it was quite likely HF will yell the town to lynch you over TT and when ~15 players posted and votes came off you you decided you have an out by unclaiming (since let's be honest -- if almost anyone else in the game CC'd you you are dead). That's how i see it. And now you have developed a bullshit reason for suspecting HF for it. | ||
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