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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:17 GMT
#1726
On December 29 2015 04:15 Vivax wrote:
No its not cause I never have this degree of thread interaction, how bad it might be, as mafia.

Okay, then about 15 players in this game were just bad.
But still, it doesn't make HF scum. Unless you think there is about 15 scum in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:17 GMT
#1727
On December 29 2015 04:16 Vivax wrote:
i would have fucked off for several hours after the claim, for example. Mission accomplished then I go do something that isnt lying about a game I dont have to solve

I have no idea what are you talking about here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:21 GMT
#1732
wait wait wait...
Vivax are you actually unclaiming here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:21 GMT
#1733
On December 29 2015 04:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh I forgot OWS and TT on there. Coloured in red so I skipped over them

post your chart real quick
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:22 GMT
#1738
On December 29 2015 04:22 ExO_ wrote:
Does the gunsmith's given gun get to shoot the night he gives it, or does it have to wait until the following night? I asked earlier but if anybody answered me I didn't see it

If you can't find it in the OP PM the hosts.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:25 GMT
#1742
On December 29 2015 04:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If this is the reason people actually TR me I swear I'm going to shoot someone

You mean the chart?
No, if you didn't have one you would be scum.

If Vivax actually unclaimed we lynch him 100%. I don't fucking care if he is town or not but we lynch him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:27 GMT
#1747
On December 29 2015 04:26 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 04:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If this is the reason people actually TR me I swear I'm going to shoot someone

You mean the chart?
No, if you didn't have one you would be scum.

If Vivax actually unclaimed we lynch him 100%. I don't fucking care if he is town or not but we lynch him.


what do you think of hf being so heated @ gb that he didn't even give vivax unclaiming the time of day?

I don't care. If Vivax actually unclaimed he should be lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:28 GMT
#1750
Vivax are you unclaiming jailkeepr or not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:30 GMT
#1754
mhm...
##unvote
##vote Vivax
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 19:36 GMT
#1771
I am officially retracting from playing until i am dead or Vivax is dead.
When smart people become dumb as fuck all hope is lost.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 28 2015 23:21 GMT
#2058


Hey tictock. D2 just claim jailkeeper and then unclaim. Noone will ever remember they thought you were scum and you can continue sayong whatever you want.

Good lynch boyz! Keep it up!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 06:03 GMT
#2112
I should probably try to play for a bit when i get up properly.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 07:01 GMT
#2122
See TicTock, here is my problem.

I agree that it is possible your reads post at the start of the game comes from town. So let's say you did that as town, fine.
But then again we come to this:

I am quoting this on parts, so it is easier to read and respond to:

Rayn said he couldn't understand my reads post he quoted first here, (1)yet he had the exact same reaction to Kush revieling his smurf that I did, and (2)later questioned Ness for very similar things that I was seeing.



ONE:
The shit about me not reading kus of Kush's smurf I already responded to and is just not true. I wouldn't sign up for a game I didn't intend to make some effort to read, and I would read things twice as carefully if I were scum. Just kus I don't see things or react to things the same as you do doesn't mean I'm not reading.

That is just not right. The difference is the following;
I made that read. After i had made the read Holyflare (and someone else, maybe ritoky?) pointed out why my read is based on incorrect basis. After that, you come in and make the same read -- which you should already know is based on incorrect basis.

TWO:
I posted 3 posts of Ness. One he flippantly writes off trying to read Exo with a gif trying to act like it's non of his buisness, saying he might be town or mafia.
He also gives a "just cause" read on Sl, then immediately backs it up with "reasons"

Those posts furthered the idea that he wasn't really trying to make reads on people or think about the game, and the post regarding Exo was just one example of him going "well maybe they are town or mafia, not my problem"

Okay now look at this. This is what you say about your scumread on Ness and where it was (is?) based on. Here is what i wrote about Ness:
On December 27 2015 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:18 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:15 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:12 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:03 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:45 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Let me ask you something

What did you not understand on the wagoning on Moosy doosy?

Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to?


It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from

Food for thought~

Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is?

I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum.

Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum?


It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment.

mmmm on the contrary

that is invalid, i just said i didn't know the answer and just asked you.
Did i not just ask you who you think is scum? That's me asking you a question trying to solve the game. It helps to know the opinions of others to know the insight to the game.

please answer my question now.


You know what RVS is but you couldn't that's exactly what moosy's was? I find hard to believe

I find you being town hard to believe.

Nobody's even told me why we were band wagoning Moose jesus christ.

*sighs* Us arguing won't contribute to anything anyway, i'm done with you for now. I have bigger fish to fry then you, my friend c:


You said I was town for the way I was pushing you. What changed?

I am actually retracting from my townread on Ness.
This is one thing.
The other thing is he calls sicklucker mafia for "just because".
Then he votes for Vivax?!?!?!?
Than he says this... Bigger fish to fry? Like.... sicklucker who he has basically no read on and just calls scum? Or Vivax, who is basically a non-poster at that point?

What i am saying here is that Ness had a scumread on Glowingbear. But still he didn't want to vote for Glowingbear because of "i have bigger fish to fry". Not only does he not try to actually "fry these bigger fish", he votes for Vivax -- who is a complete non-entity contentwise at this point -- instead. His only other scumreads are Vivax (for who knows why) and sicklucker (for gut reasons), so i found it very hard to understand what this "i have bigger fish to fry" means , since it doesn't fucking mean anything (as based on his reasoning, Vivax and sicklucker cannot possibly be "bigger fish" than GB), nor does he even follow up on it on ANY way.

So yes, this could be really easily seen from my post - -and from my questioning from Ness after. Now go look at the posts, yours -- and mine, again:
questioned Ness for very similar things that I was seeing

... does this look like a fair comparison of what i did and what you did? Not only you are completely incorrect here, the reasoning for MY SCUMREAD ON NESS i pointed out HADNT EVEN HAPPENED WHEN YOU MADE YOUR POST!!




So, we come to this:
In both of those cases, you are completely misrepresenting either the chain of events timelinewise or what actually happened. In both of those cases you are using my read on same person you scumread as a defense on why i should not be thinking you are mafia, and say we "said the same thing" when it is actually completely different things we are saying.... Here is a simple question to you:

I can find two reasons for this. You are either...
(1) ...just straight out lying, which makes you mafia, or
(2) ...you haven't read the thread properly and/or are not thinking about what you read properly. With this the problem is you claim you are not, you STILL claim you are not, when i can easily prove i am right and you are 100% wrong here. This also makes you mafia, because it makes you not reading the thread, and you claim it is not true, which brings us back to you lying...

(3) If you are not doing either of this, then please, tell me, and everyone else WHAT are you doing then? What is this option three i am missing because i can't fucking see it. AtE will not help you, calling people dumb will not help you. Explaining will, if you are town. If you are not you can do what the fuck you want.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 07:05 GMT
#2124
And we should fucking murder Vivax straight up. Just fucking lynch him. He is either jailkeeper or he is mafia, there is no other option. If he does not die during the night we lynch him, period.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 07:07 GMT
#2127
Retracting from the JK claim is the fucking stupidest thing you can ever do if you are the real jailkeeper. Mafia would know already you are town so you are very very likely the jailkeeper.

Mafia please, if Vivax is not in your team, shoot him, you get a 100% jailkeeper.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 07:10 GMT
#2128
Holyflare i don't think Glowingbear is mafia and i think you should let go of that read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 07:18 GMT
#2129
Scumlist:

TicTock / Ness (one of them is definitely mafia, i am heavily leaning on TT especially after his respone i just commented on)
Vivax
boxerfred
noonian (especially if TT is somehow town -- kush is fucking 100% mafia there, otherwise only 90%)

Koshi is probably scum too, just because i have zero reasons to townread him. I tend to not care about reading him on D1, it's basically the same thing than with geript -- i just don't have any fucking reason to townread Koshi because he isn't doing anything at all.

Slam could be easily mafia. idk, just shoot him in the face.

Shining said some very very weird things.

I don't remember anything sicklucker has said.
Onegu can die in fire.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 07:41 GMT
#2132
On December 29 2015 16:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Retracting from the JK claim is the fucking stupidest thing you can ever do if you are the real jailkeeper. Mafia would know already you are town so you are very very likely the jailkeeper.

Mafia please, if Vivax is not in your team, shoot him, you get a 100% jailkeeper.


the way HF reacted to the claim right afterwards sothere might be some interesting stuff to be found. Ill check it out after a match of doto

Or you are scum and just claimed JK for shits and giggles when it was quite likely HF will yell the town to lynch you over TT and when ~15 players posted and votes came off you you decided you have an out by unclaiming (since let's be honest -- if almost anyone else in the game CC'd you you are dead). That's how i see it.

And now you have developed a bullshit reason for suspecting HF for it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 08:06 GMT
#2138
Ahh okay i understand the kush thing now. You should have said that earlier, i didn't think you were explaining your earlier reasoning and not saying like "i still think kush is mafia"... Let me look for something real quick...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 29 2015 08:09 GMT
#2140
meh.. maybe you are just telling the truth about the Ness thing aswell.
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