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Onegu
Onegu falls into a category of players that I almost never read. These players tend to not actually try to win the game at all. This means that most of my thoughts on Onegu are based on his red check claim on TT.
I do not think Onegu is mafia. As I discussed earlier in this post here:
On January 04 2016 07:47 Palmar wrote:
I promised to talk about the onegu/damdred thing.
There is no way they're both mafia. The reason for this is that they both look bad when tictock flips. It's too much invested into getting one random guy lynched. Even if mafia knew he was a role. IF mafia knows he's a role (rolecop) only damdred can be mafia (and not onegu) because there is no way onegu claims a red on him as mafia, knowing he'll just claim blue and will never be cc'd. We also know (from the nightkills on n2) that mafia had not at day 2 hit any townies with the rolecop (JK/Cop is autokill and the masons are already outed). So, either the mafia rolecop missed, or it hit tt, in which case only damdred can be mafia.
On the other hand, if mafia had no idea what tt's role was, onegu can be mafia, and if he is, damdred is almost certainly not, because people (like myself) were actively calling for the gunsmith not to CC tictock. The only problem with this theory is why would onegu go 1 for 1 on someone whose role he doesn't know and who is so scummy that people were literally mad that he didn't get lynched on day 1. It's just not worth it.
So, technically it's more likely damdred is mafia, but I really, really think they're both town.
it is impossible that IF Onegu is mafia that mafia knew TT's role. Which begs the question, why would scumOnegu go 1 for 1 against a scummy player who half of town wanted to lynch anyway. I know it's entirely possible he just did it because fuck it and wifom, but the problem is, while it's easy to construct such scenarios as a town, it's very difficult to execute something so risky as mafia.
In general when you play mafia you overestimate suspicions against you and you're unusually afraid of saying/doing shit that might be perceived as scummy.
The problem, of course, is that Onegu would be a pretty terrible baggage to take into lylo, but I just don't think we have enough mislynches left to actually kill him before that point.
Like there exists a world where Onegu is scum, but I don't think we have enough time to explore that world. So with that I'm simply going to assume he's town until further notice.
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Kush
I generally don't read kush that closely, but I've had some opportunities to this game, mostly because he has talked a lot about me.
There's two reasons to think Kush is mafia and one reason to maybe think he's not. I have already explained both the reasons to think he's mafia. Here's the first (and more important) one.
On December 28 2015 21:56 Palmar wrote:
but ok.
time is up kush.
I genuinely wonder if Kush understood the question he asked. Like, koshi clearly shows that he understands what happened, but it boils down to this:
Kush questioning Exo's read on me only makes sense if Kush actually understand why Exo's accusations are dumb. If he doesn't know why Exo is being a moron, then Kush has no business asking the question he just asked.
The context is this:
On December 28 2015 21:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 21:05 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:57 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 20:25 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:19 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 20:15 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:14 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 19:56 Tictock wrote:On December 28 2015 19:31 ExO_ wrote:
Morning Ladies and Gents. Read through the pages I missed at the end of last night. I feel like overall we've really stalled out.
I really think we should consider lynching an inactive, such as BF
TickTock is okay (and the way he just ignores shining's case on him doesn't sit well with me) but I would still rather take out the trash and people who aren't here in the thread trying to help are better than lynching someone who is actively talking on day 1.
Speaking of people not talking, here comes Palmar. Calls me town, and that's about it. Really fucking easy thing for a scum to do, walk into the thread and call a town a town. If this is all we get from Palmar, I think its scummy as hell.
I assume you mean Rit's case, which I am ignoring Also Palmar seems pretty likely town imo, post he just made is some solid thinking What post did he make that was solid thinking? Seriously Palmar has hardly posted anything at all so far, I'd like to know what you thought was so solid about Palmar so far that you think hes town I'm going to guess he's talking about the post where I provided some solid thinking. We talking about the flying cows post? Or perhaps the one about the spiders dancing for the Queen of England, before eating her alive! Oh wait, just like the post with your solid thinking, none of those exist. Just because I'm a nice guy (really...) On December 28 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:
Exo is probably town. Also, I've read about 10 posts in the thread now and checked a few filter lengths. I'm glad rayn is playing and HF has a shorter than expected filter. But I haven't really read anything from either of them yet.
The reason I'm giving exo a maybe townread is his tinfoil hat theory regarding the mason claims. Most players who construct convoluted conspiracy theories, end up being townies. (If Exo is mafia, he would already know whether or not one or more of the mason claimers are mafia, so creating a theory becomes both more difficult, and it would make him worry about appearing to have extra information). The idea here is that I called you town and gave a reason for it. For the sake of this exercise let's consider you town, because otherwise this is a pointless effort. So as a townie, you have just been called town by someone, your job is now to figure out: a) Did Palmar want to call me town and made up some excuse to do it b) Did Palmar see something he found interesting, and made a conclusion based on the evidence These are really the only two options, you either believe the reason I gave for giving you a "maybe townread", or you don't. Ticktock probably reached the conclusion that my train of thought is genuine, that I actually believe you wouldn't come up with the theory you came up with as mafia, and thus my post was sincere. Now, interestingly, it's my job to try to figure out if Ticktock genuinely liked my post, or if he just saw me post something with some reasoning and decided to call me town for it because he wanted to do that anyway. I think it's a really easy read. What's interesting to me is you mention what went down with rsoultin/coag and the masons. So clearly you've read the thread. However you've only townread me so far, which is a pretty easy call to make at this point. Which makes me think you're trying to get town points for town reading me, when in reality it was a very easy thing to do. Town reading me can't be the only thing you have to offer. There's nothing particularly insightful about going along with what the rest of the thread has said before you. Any other thoughts, any scum reads? So far I think you look far more scummy trying to win a bit of town cred, than a late-to-the-party townie trying to solve the game. I haven't read the thread. I've skimmed like 2 filters and read these last 2-3 pages. To be honest I don't believe you. If you were skimming around the part where I went off on rsoultin/coag you should know that I've been town read by most everyone. That being the case, it'd be easy to call me town, and what I said about trying to get town cred for making a townie read that everyone else has already made holds true. I had no idea anyone else called you town. If you want a full disclosure on how I obtained the read on you it was like this: I respect rayn as a player so I clicked his filter and went right to his last page. on the top of page 8 of rayn's filter there is a conversation that involves all the required knowledge for me to draw the conclusions I have drawn (both about coag/rsoultin being the masons, and the evidence I used to draw the conclusion you might be town).
Exo was arguing I must be mafia because he didn't believe I had just come into the thread and somehow made a case to call one of his actions townie. I pointed him towards a conversation that I had randomly opened in rayn's filter that contained the evidence I used to make that read.
Kush, for some reason, decided to interject himself into that and ask Exo why I wouldn't be null instead of scumread. Koshi also interjected himself here:
On December 28 2015 21:51 Koshi wrote:
But I agree that it went like you said it went. Very unlikely you read entire thread and would be able to actually come up with that explanation on the spot.
The difference between kush and koshi is that koshi clearly understood why Exo was being a dumbass. So I sort of pressured kush to provide a similar answer, which he never really did, although he did provide one here (open the quotes):
On December 29 2015 00:25 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 00:11 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 23:32 nooniansoong wrote:On December 28 2015 23:02 Palmar wrote:
Although I<script id="gpt-impl-0.3554030756292448" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_78.js"></script>'m annoyed kush hasn't responded to me about why he implied to exo that I should be a null read. I don't know what you are looking for here but okay... I didn't think you had done anything that warrented a scumread. You read a filter and called someone town from what you read. You approached the game in the same way I would if I were in your position of having 60 unread pages. So Exo's sudden scumread of you seemed inappropriate, and I wanted to get a better idea of what logic he was basing it on. I suppose I can understand Exo thinking you might be scum playing dumb in order to excuse yourself from having to look townie. Meeehhhh~~~~ that's not entirely correct. Exo accused me, specifically, of lying about having not read the game. I provided pretty solid evidence that I was telling the truth and he just doubled down. The thing is, if I am lying about not having read the game (which would btw be an enormously dumb lie), I should be mafia, Exo is not wrong there. The problem is, I pretty much demonstrated that I was telling the truth. So the reason to question his scumread on me is that one of his main premises for calling me mafia turned out to be invalid. Technically it should make you mafia that you defended me without actually understanding why you should be defending me but I don't know. I'll make that call later. Your proof had nothing to do with why I questioned that read. I'm not sure Exo "doubled down" after your proof. Perhaps he didn't yet see or understand your proof when he doubled down. I think it would be interesting to see if he still thinks you're scum or admits to making a mistake.
The second thing is simply this:
On January 04 2016 08:09 Palmar wrote:
Like I know this does not matter to you guys.
But there is 100% no way that kush, for two days in a row or something, is right about my alignment when rayn/artanis/hf/damdred/koshi/trfel and the list goes on are wrong.
Literally the only other person I remember actually calling me town is rsoultin. (I think she did). It's really annoying, but it's also glaringly obvious.
Kush either knows I'm town (cop) or he's scum.
However, I'm also waffling on that.
I really, really want to believe Kush can be town here, mostly because I vastly prefer this version of kush to all others I've encountered. He seems to be actually sort of trying this game.
I am not going to advocate a kush lynch today. He should still be considered a prime suspect, and there's 5 mafia out there and I don't have 5 names that I think are more likely to flip mafia than him. I just think we have better targets today than him.
It does help that kush actually made himself available to the thread while we were talking about him yesterday. It's just this sort of thing that makes me want to believe he might somehow be not scum.
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sicklucker
I have far less to say about sicklucker. I haven't read most of his filter and I'm not going to go through 14 pages of his generally awful contributions to form a real opinion.
He has been reasonable towards me (a recurring theme you'll notice when you read my opinions on people is that I'm a bit like Donald Trump, I want to be treated fairly and I get mad if I'm not). He's one of the guys who has been echoing my sentiment that I shouldn't be shot, but rather lynched. I guess I'm getting what I wished for.
My time is better spent elsewhere though, I'm not going to make a judgement on his alignment unless I find time to read through his filter, it's going to be for other people to figure it out if I get lynched today.
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damdred
If there is a dark horse mafia from my earlier list post int he townie section, it's probably damdred.
There's plenty of reasons to believe damdred is town. He's taking a leadership role in town now, he has actually got a fairly long filter by his standards (I want to point out that I have a long one for my standards too...), and I can easily see why he'd make the counterclaim to tt's gunsmith claim as town. In fact it's more likely that he does it as town because if he is mafia he would know that onegu and tt are both town (remember, I don't think there's a chance onegu/damdred are both mafia) and thus he shouldn't care too much if town turns on onegu and lynches tt.
Actually as I write that it's probably the best towncase I've made on damdred for a while.
The biggest problem I have with damdred is this one:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KGcD6uk.png)
This image shows damdred's mentions of me. This is what I noticed last night which prompted me to ask him. Notice that literally none of those talk about any kind of read on my alignment. It's just going along with thread sentiment to call palmar mafia like all the good townies.
He did try to explain his read on me yesterday when I asked him but still.
To summarize: Damdred is probably town, I just wrote a pretty strong case for him being town based on the claim mechanics, and he is actively trying to do things today. There do exist some concerns though so he's not a terrible cop check if the cop survives for a while longer (it's probably better to check scummy people tonight etc). Just make sure he stays with the game and keeps saying the right things.
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OO
I literally just opened his filter for the first time in the game. Every single game I play, the people I ignore end up being mafia and I never read their filters because they're so boring, this guy has quite a few things mafia do in his filter:
His read on damdred flip flopped relatively conveniently on day 2, yet after "poking through damdred's filter" he somehow missed the very important point that damdred claimed a role that wasn't cc'd (except by ticktock, who at the time was consensus mafia).
On December 30 2015 13:24 ObviousOne wrote:does anyone know/remember if palmar has a history of bussing? cause from his filter after reading kush i'm getting the feeling it could be a double-bus where they scum read eachother but neither really does anything about it. palmar vs artanis thing had no reason to be so drawn out, if palmar had the power to kill artanis why wouldn't he just ignore artanis all night if he was going to shoot artanis anyway? this one actually made me laugh though: Show nested quote +On December 30 2015 03:55 Palmar wrote:
Stop calling me mafia rayn you might die and the retards might sheep you post death after which rayn dies tinfoil hat me says the night actions are a way to assist in getting palmar lynched historically i have a bad time trying to decide whether or not palmar is scum, right now i can see reasons to think he's at worst null unless he's mafia together with kush specifically so association case someday maybe so yeah an entirely noncommittal town or scum-with-kush read but really i have no fucking clue honestly
This post is sort of really bad. First off he makes a weird associative read about kush and I being double busing, and then proceeds to write an entire post essentially defending me, and somehow tries to associate kush flipping mafia with me certainly having to be one. It's really bad, and what if kush does indeed flip mafia? Is he going to go "well I guess palmar must be mafia too then?". It feels like a setup while trying not to antagonize me.
Also, he changed his mind about it later!
On January 02 2016 23:58 ObviousOne wrote:
sleep deprived mafia team based on not very much effort but it's up to date, i'll try to do better when i come back
ows
vivax
one of sl or slam
one of noon or palmar
maybe gb
could prob eliminate one more name if i was caffeinated enough but i doubt it.
thought about comparing this list to the dead guys filters from n1 maybe when i wake up tonight. from memory palmar was suspect but the rest i dont remember off the top of my empty skull
Apparently now only one of me and Kush can be mafia, because reasons.
OO is very, very likely to be mafia. I sort of expected ending up staying on GB after doing this, but pending poking around his filter I might just want to lynch OO.
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I need to actually do things for a while, I'll try to get through all the players before tonight.
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Damdred was not being scumread by anyone, the fact you didn't read that he had claimed, which should be a major impact on your read on him, suggests you didn't really read at all.
You are of course essentially correct that there can be at most one mafia between me and kush, but why the change in heart when you previously basically said you felt it was a double bus scenario (indicating that there's not one mafia between us, but two).
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On January 04 2016 19:46 ObviousOne wrote:
Those early posts about damdred were made while catching up with the game, posting while behind, iirc
The longer a double bus goes on the less likely it is to be one especially in this game where it's potentially a near-perfect game. Ofc I would call it a double bus when I felt you were both scummy in my mind
This one is specifically not true, in fact your entire post was DEFENDING me instead of showing how I was scummy. The only caveat you left is that somehow it could be a double bus, without specifically talking about how or why I could be mafia.
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again, that conflicts with your earlier statement.
you said
"I felt you were both scummy"
and now you said
"I didn't talk about how or why you could be mafia because at this point the only real evidence I really have that you could be mafia is how poorly the night kills reflect on you"
Those statements cannot exist together.
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and stop bashing yourself, you're a fine player who actually tries shit.
It's literally the easiest job in the world to be likable in tl mafia you have to do two things
a) don't be a complete dick
b) at least try to do something
both of which you do fine enough.
Let's assume for a second you're not mafia, who do you think we should lynch today and why. Also, what do you think of the people I've written about so far?
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On January 04 2016 21:48 Trfel wrote:Nooniansoong's post about solving the game through townreads and process-of-elimination kind of made sense when looking through his filter. I think I mostly trust Damdred, but I'm not really sure I trust ritoky; it's a random tinfoil hat theory that I haven't had time to check yet. It's way too darn early 
Do you have no opinion on my contributions?
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Exo
Exo is aggressive and impatient, which are generally townie traits. Back when interacting with him on day 1 he seemed genuinely annoyed because he didn't believe me.
For the most part, traits like these are townie traits. Also, while I have sort of stopped reading Exo's posts since day 1 (I simply assumed my initial read was correct and ignored him for the most part after that). But the point stands, he is mad at people who are not trying to win the game:
On December 28 2015 02:23 ExO_ wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Coagulation
If you can't be arsed to read the thread, answer any questions, or add to the game at all why the fuck are you here. Please go fuck off
Note that this is AFTER coag/rsoultin are unccd masons.
Add in what I wrote here:
On December 28 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:
Exo is probably town. Also, I've read about 10 posts in the thread now and checked a few filter lengths. I'm glad rayn is playing and HF has a shorter than expected filter. But I haven't really read anything from either of them yet.
The reason I'm giving exo a maybe townread is his tinfoil hat theory regarding the mason claims. Most players who construct convoluted conspiracy theories, end up being townies. (If Exo is mafia, he would already know whether or not one or more of the mason claimers are mafia, so creating a theory becomes both more difficult, and it would make him worry about appearing to have extra information).
Which is also about his reaction to the mason claim, and I think it's relatively safe bet that exo is town.
Notice how in the vote on coag above, think about if exo is mafia:
If exo is mafia, he knows coag/rsoultin are at least two townies, and probably the masons, is he smart enough as mafia to get angry at someone telling the truth and then vote against what would be the reasonable approach? I don't remember playing with Exo as mafia, but it's a relatively complicated mafia play.
I am pretty much ok with taking Exo off the table completely.
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also regarding kush, I just really hope he's town because I'd love for this new kush to be a thing where he's actually not a complete dickhead in games. Hell even if he is mafia, it's still a vast improvement. I like this new guy.
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On January 04 2016 22:26 sicklucker wrote:
palmar dont be a tard vote slam now the tiebreaker can matter...
sure, but like.
we should lynch GB. Possibly OO, but definitely GB.
I do not know why people are just flat out ignoring me on that. I'm going to write his part soon enough, but notice that he has literally done nothing today.
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ritoky
Ritoky is probably town. Strong enough not to be on the table for today. He has, throughout the game, given plenty of opinions and usually backed them up with some sort of reasoning. Even when I (I think it was me) pressured him into giving reasons for calling me mafia, he sort of did (they weren't good reasons, but they existed).
He also made, what is in hindsight, a good point about artanis here:
On December 27 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel Why is Artanis town? Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia? Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia? artanis is freely posting thoughts instead of releasing them in blocks of text. artans waits, sounds calculated, and posts in paragraphs/walls when he is scum. slam and rsoul are doing things that aren't alignment indicative but make me like them; plus slam is just hot irl. you're mafia because town GB calls that guy an idiot or worthless, town GB doesn't call him mafia. trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia. we done with your shitter read? ![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/c5d1933f5de28e7d39fe5405c65188fb/tumblr_mzb0vb9qKx1t7d0aqo1_250.gif)
And in response to everyone's favorite GB!
He made case on tictock too, and while it turned out to be wrong, it was a reasonable case. I don't really mind people who actually are at the forefront of discovering things
The shot on moosy was good, although I'm sort of surprised that he a) shot and that b) mafia didn't roleblock him. But since we have like 10 townies left and no one has claimed cop yet, it's entirely possible we have some kind of a situation where scum has figured out the cop (through rolecop) and they're keeping that guy roleblocked. In fact, when I think about it, that is a very likely scenario.
So yeah, ritoky has been an asshole to me too, but I sort of think it's been in a way that doesn't make him mafia.
He also got mad on day 1 when rayn was getting all the hype for what he believed to be just as much his work. Being mad about something like that is relatively townie.
Just as with damdred, he needs to stay involved. If he drops off the face of the planet, lynch him.
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(the reason I'm doing these is that there is a very real chance there is enough lynch inertia to just kill me today even if no one is really sure why. I'm trying to be useful! Such town, wow.)
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I've put my vote on slam because of tiebreaker scenarios (now it just takes one guy to switch and he'll be ahead of me in the tiebreakers). I am not entirely confident he's mafia, but he might very well be, and he sure as hell is more likely to flip mafia than me.
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it'd be really grand for town if I actually flipped mafia after this, so many associative reads to be had.
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On January 04 2016 22:39 sicklucker wrote:
Ah man palmar is so town it hurts
I know, I'm literally in physical pain
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Glowingbear
I've had an issue with glowingbear since day 1. Remember I talked about my townread on Exo which then blew up into an argument between us two (this particular part of the game is also involved in my feelings about kush).
During this argument, Exo made precisely the point that GB makes in his question and I responded to it. There is no way GB was attentively reading that conversation to come up with that question, he just threw it out there.
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?
In fact, go to glowingbear's filter, like half of it, especially on day 1 is just him asking random questions without really following them up or giving any explanations to his thoughts while asking. I can quote quite a few:
On December 27 2015 09:09 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:05 Damdred wrote:
Here's the deal we need to establish that we are going to lynch me never and never putting me under suspicion.
That way I can give you great reads like this:
Town:
Trfel, ritoky, arty, Ness, Damdred and somewhat ticktock (slight lean) Can you explain these?
On December 27 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel Why is Artanis town? Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia? Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia?
On December 27 2015 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm a kush smurf.
This game I am going to try hard to work on read accuracy.
I just did a quick read through. Exo gave me mafia feels in his few posts, but that doesn't mean much.
I liked hf's first post. Then ness said he needed to write a lot in defense. Ness, I urge you to write as little as possible while still honestly addressing hf's concerns.
Why are you blowing your smurf?
On December 27 2015 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:14 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/6e42219a5876ee6211266625f19c3353.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/4391fda423ccd187b9dc4c02582a3a3b.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
 first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black". ^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username. But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.) I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm. Much more important than who is town Who is Mafia?
On December 27 2015 12:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn what do you think of Ritoky and Ness?
Like I get trying to get people to explain things, but at some point you're just inflating your post count.
Which brings me neatly to my next point:
Glowingbear has a 10 page filter, 7 of which are from day 1. He has basically dropped off the face of the earth (which sort of fits him being mafia, because with tictock fumbling his claim the game is actually going splendidly for mafia.
He's not doing anything, he's been combative but isn't actually trying to get people to do his bidding. Even today he seems to barely care who gets lynched.
GB is perfectly capable of pushing things in later days, I've seen him do it. When he has conviction to do something he usually just does it, yet he is barely even trying this game. If you guys don't believe me go read christmas carol and compare his push on holyflare in that game to his push on holyflare or me this game.
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