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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 01 2016 17:30 GMT
#701
On January 01 2016 23:52 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 04:18 GiygaS wrote:
Just want to say I'm still reading. There's a lot. As of post 443 I'd lynch scott (for basically everyone else's posts on him plus his weird last post, he still hasn't shown up even though he had very good irl reasons to be available), kmatt (his lynch target on me seems like parrotting other players, among other things), and gb in that order


How was kmatt parroting?
He voted for gb who has no other votes...

How is paroting lynch target Scummy? It's called consolidation. In this post you say you would lynch Scott for everyone else's posts. Isn't that parroting lynch targets?

Kmatt may have been first to vote, but all his reasoning was said before by others. He didn't point to those posts though, he presented the insights as his own by adding some random quotes from GB's filter. He did the exact same thing on me too. I still have him as a major scumlean, as this is pretty much his only analysis content. The post where he answered a lot of questions he just summarized the situations. This with his weird reasoning to flip back to GB again despite not liking his scum lean because he's "more dangerous".
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 01 2016 17:31 GMT
#702
I think night cycle got delayed 24 hours to deal with New Years.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 01 2016 17:33 GMT
#704
On January 01 2016 23:52 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 04:18 GiygaS wrote:
Just want to say I'm still reading. There's a lot. As of post 443 I'd lynch scott (for basically everyone else's posts on him plus his weird last post, he still hasn't shown up even though he had very good irl reasons to be available), kmatt (his lynch target on me seems like parrotting other players, among other things), and gb in that order


How was kmatt parroting?
He voted for gb who has no other votes...

How is paroting lynch target Scummy? It's called consolidation. In this post you say you would lynch Scott for everyone else's posts. Isn't that parroting lynch targets?

Also you directly contradict yourself in this post. You can't call it consolidation if he's the first one to vote for that person.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 01 2016 18:19 GMT
#711
On December 30 2015 23:30 Kmatt wrote:
However I am going to assert that GB is the more dangerous target. Sure, Scott was acting "scummy" by not really participating, but he hasn't really derailed the thread or caused trouble (yet). GB on the other hand is an active poster who has been calling quite a few scumreads (myself included) with virtually no justification, as well as some very empty townreads. The fishy interactions with Noon are enough to seal the deal for me.

More importantly, if we were to lynch Scott, we would learn almost nothing. Even if he came up scum, his posts have been so hollow that we wouldn't have a solid lead to go from there. Unless GB can clean up his act in time, there's a lot more to be gained out of him.

##unvote GiygaS
##vote GlowingBear

Here is where he explains that GB is more dangerous (basically because he posts more).
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 02 2016 06:36 GMT
#724
I have a 4am flight tomorrow, but before I go to bed, let me just say I read that and while it's a little bit summary-y .
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 02 2016 18:07 GMT
#767
GB can you now elaborate on the reads you had but never explained? Why did you have those reads?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 02 2016 18:08 GMT
#769
Also my flight got delayed 8 hours after I woke up early and stood in line for 3 hours QQ
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 02 2016 18:14 GMT
#772
On January 03 2016 03:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 03:07 GiygaS wrote:
GB can you now elaborate on the reads you had but never explained? Why did you have those reads?


Which ones? Please tell me because I thought I've explained most of them.

Woops nvm, accidentally skipped a page on your filter.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 06:10 GMT
#813
Ill be on tomorrow morning, but I've just had the longest day ever and need to sleep (12 hours in a Calgary airport bored out of my skull, thanks United >.<)
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 19:10 GMT
#855
I honestly cannot figure out who I want to lynch today. I was so sure on kmatt until that megapost. Going to go over GB and Onegu's filters and the cases on them one more time, as it seems like the lynch will be one of those two.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 19:10 GMT
#856
On January 04 2016 04:09 Shapelog wrote:
Hi
This is shapelogs girlfriend.

My Bf is in the ER again and has to get another surgery. He asked me to ask for a /replace or whatever that is.

Where do i do this at?

D: get well soon shape
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 19:15 GMT
#861
On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Kmatt I had him as mafia, then I reevaluated and thought he might be town (after talking to kush), then he voted me using a very poor reasoning to do so. He is null but very close to scum

GB can you explain why you initially though kmatt was mafia.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 19:17 GMT
#863
God fucking damnit I missed a post again I'm sorry, ignore that.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 19:22 GMT
#865
On January 04 2016 04:19 Shapelog wrote:
Is there anything else i have to do for him?

No, kita should handle the rest.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 19:27 GMT
#868
Going over it again I really don't like how kmatt ignored GB's probably most substantial post despite going over pretty much every other one when most of his case relies on painting GB as someone who's just shitposting and questioning people.

Post I'm referring to:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool I've finished catching up.

town
Fidei

NocturneMage

Irishbound
(the way these three are engaging the thread looks like townies trying to solve the game. They see posts, they react, they go after information to further investigate people's alignment)

Kush
(I've played games with kush before and as mafia he really doesn't care, and he seems to care here. He is here, he is commenting stuff. It's a read mostly based on meta, tho)

Shapelog
(my weakest townread. I think his excitement to play is genuine, but the way he is engaging the thread is a little more passive than I expect from a townie. His opinions aren't firm. So I think he is townie but I have an eye open regarding him)

Scott is null. I've made a promise to keep him alive for more than one day because he usually plays like this. Actually, those incongruences you've guys found in Scott's post could come from town Scott based on his previous games (I think Battle of the Drams is the one I'm thinking about, but I'm not really sure the name of the game I remember him playing like this as town)

TheCow is null because I have no idea what his posts are actually after, but I think the formatting is SO SO CUUUUTE

Kmatt I had him as mafia, then I reevaluated and thought he might be town (after talking to kush), then he voted me using a very poor reasoning to do so. He is null but very close to scum

mafia
mderg
(no original thoughts. the guy is just following the thread and rarely putting any original thoughts on the thread. Throw suspicions without going after it, like he did talking about me and kush avoiding each otherm and simply isn't caring for actually uncovering people's alignment)

Onegu
(Meta: he is too invested in the game) (Evidence: calls fidei out for a dumb reason as a scumslip, saying Fidei is mafia for saying Onegu is a mislynch. This is bad, but the greatest problem isn't that this is a bad reason to jump on someone. It's because one of Shapelog's first post was this [spoiler]
On December 29 2015 07:06 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:05 scott31337 wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:04 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I wanted to be blue so much


it's so anti-town to claim vt


I agree with the stone man here. Haven't you learned yet Bear?

He might need another mislynch......
[/spoiler] but he never suspects Shapelog for TMI - Too Much Insight)


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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 20:02 GMT
#875
On January 04 2016 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 04:13 disformation wrote:
On January 04 2016 04:09 Shapelog wrote:
Hi
This is shapelogs girlfriend.

My Bf is in the ER again and has to get another surgery. He asked me to ask for a /replace or whatever that is.

Where do i do this at?


I have notified the main host of this game kitaman27.


You've just confirmed shape as town :/

How in the world does notifying main host confirm shape as town.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 20:09 GMT
#877
On January 04 2016 05:02 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 04:27 GiygaS wrote:
Going over it again I really don't like how kmatt ignored GB's probably most substantial post despite going over pretty much every other one when most of his case relies on painting GB as someone who's just shitposting and questioning people.

Post I'm referring to:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool I've finished catching up.

town
Fidei

NocturneMage

Irishbound
(the way these three are engaging the thread looks like townies trying to solve the game. They see posts, they react, they go after information to further investigate people's alignment)

Kush
(I've played games with kush before and as mafia he really doesn't care, and he seems to care here. He is here, he is commenting stuff. It's a read mostly based on meta, tho)

Shapelog
(my weakest townread. I think his excitement to play is genuine, but the way he is engaging the thread is a little more passive than I expect from a townie. His opinions aren't firm. So I think he is townie but I have an eye open regarding him)

Scott is null. I've made a promise to keep him alive for more than one day because he usually plays like this. Actually, those incongruences you've guys found in Scott's post could come from town Scott based on his previous games (I think Battle of the Drams is the one I'm thinking about, but I'm not really sure the name of the game I remember him playing like this as town)

TheCow is null because I have no idea what his posts are actually after, but I think the formatting is SO SO CUUUUTE

Kmatt I had him as mafia, then I reevaluated and thought he might be town (after talking to kush), then he voted me using a very poor reasoning to do so. He is null but very close to scum

mafia
mderg
(no original thoughts. the guy is just following the thread and rarely putting any original thoughts on the thread. Throw suspicions without going after it, like he did talking about me and kush avoiding each otherm and simply isn't caring for actually uncovering people's alignment)

Onegu
(Meta: he is too invested in the game) (Evidence: calls fidei out for a dumb reason as a scumslip, saying Fidei is mafia for saying Onegu is a mislynch. This is bad, but the greatest problem isn't that this is a bad reason to jump on someone. It's because one of Shapelog's first post was this [spoiler]
On December 29 2015 07:06 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:05 scott31337 wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:04 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I wanted to be blue so much


it's so anti-town to claim vt


I agree with the stone man here. Haven't you learned yet Bear?

He might need another mislynch......
[/spoiler] but he never suspects Shapelog for TMI - Too Much Insight)




I was trying to wrap up that post so I only included the two entries on myself and Scott that had do with the point I was making. Nothing in that post did anything to convince me he was town anyway.

I would agree with this if you also included his mderg "read". I can see you ignoring it though as it wasn't particularly substantial. I think I'm going to vote GB, the case seems to hold up.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 20:10 GMT
#878
On January 04 2016 05:08 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 05:02 GiygaS wrote:
On January 04 2016 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 04 2016 04:13 disformation wrote:
On January 04 2016 04:09 Shapelog wrote:
Hi
This is shapelogs girlfriend.

My Bf is in the ER again and has to get another surgery. He asked me to ask for a /replace or whatever that is.

Where do i do this at?


I have notified the main host of this game kitaman27.


You've just confirmed shape as town :/

How in the world does notifying main host confirm shape as town.


My guess would be that they would have contacted him through the mafia private chat had it been available for him. Then again, we didn't see the public post for TheCow, so even if this somehow confirms ShapeLog, that would simultaneously condemn The Shining.

The most likely case is that Ms. Shapelog was only instructed to post in the thread. It would have also made sense to let us know about him going for the operation publicly as an explanation for his lack of activity.

The blue post was clearly made to alert Ms. Shape to him being made aware, does nothing to show that either player is or isn't scum.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 20:11 GMT
#879
Woops, forgot vote

##vote GB
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 03 2016 20:46 GMT
#886
He answered mine, it was because I missed a filter page
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