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RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 15:51 GMT
#377
;o;
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 15:53 GMT
#381
Probably not, we can totally imagnie Palmar being like that and we both like his sense of humor ^^
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 16:01 GMT
#389
On December 15 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
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On December 15 2015 00:46 RtaniSoul wrote:
On December 15 2015 00:43 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 00:39 RtaniSoul wrote:
On December 15 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:
Alright.

Why is GM townie for scumreading Damdred & rayn, when he dropped these scumreads at the most opportunistic time (deadline) ?

You agreed with Damdred & rayn probing me concerning the marv vote here:
On December 14 2015 00:15 RtaniSoul wrote:
Then there was the weird marv vote that also got pinged out by Rayn and Damdred. In the case of Marv being mafia, it gives Rels an excuse to be on him early whilst actually being able to switch to DP as soon as Marv posts.

GM found Damdred scummy about the way Damdred probed me concerning the marv vote:
On December 13 2015 09:36 GreYMisT wrote:
The first is in regards to Damdred/Rels. I felt OK about Dam at first, but it struck me as interesting the way he interacted with Rels when Rels votes Marv. He asks why Rels is policy voting someone when he has a scum read on someone else, a sentiment I have no real issue with. What strikes me as strange is the way Dam seems to play up what Rels is doing as a weird play. The interaction covers most of a page when it seemed like it really didn't need to. I am suspicious of players who have lengthy interactions with others while accomplishing nothing. In addition, after this happens, DP essentially does the exact same thing and yet no reaction from Damdred. This strikes me as odd and I'd like to hear damdred's thoights about DP's vote placement.

Why do you townread GM for attacking Damdred because Damdred did something you agreed with ?


You're right. If we'd townread GM for attacking Damdred specifically for that reason, rather than because pushing damdred and rayn is a high-risk, low-reward play with scum marv afk...that would be weird.

Your reason for townreading GM isn't good then. It's "scum wouldn't do that!"
It's similar for your reason for townreading me. "scum!Rels wouldn't vote someone else than marv at EOD!" They're weak.


If those were our only reasons, then yes, they would be weak.

Also, rayn's reasons for townreading GM are excellent lol ><

You've just said:
You're right. If we'd townread GM for attacking Damdred specifically for that reason, rather than because pushing damdred and rayn is a high-risk, low-reward play with scum marv afk...that would be weird.
in defense of another question.

Let us lay it down for you again.

We kinda townread GM because A) his posts just look townie to us in the sense that there doesn't seem to be much of an agenda and B) because he attacked Damdred and Rayn to begin with when they were universally townread. The fact that he retracted those scumreads later doesn't necessarily make it that much weaker. Additinoally, Rayn's posts about why GM being scum doesn't make any sense makes us think he's more likely town than you.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 16:06 GMT
#395
So our view on Rels' recent posting is that it feels like the tone is more townie in that he's working with us and asking questions which is more indicative of his Townplay, but the things he's trying to nail people on are things that have either already been explained or aren't that strong and it feels a bit like "hey, can I nail them on this?" "nope? damn, let me try this instead". That's kind of the impression he's leaving on us right now.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 19:40 GMT
#445
On December 15 2015 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis/rsoultin:
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We've had a strong townread on both Rayn (me more than art, but that's splitting hairs) and Damdred since very early in the game.

I'd like to hear a bit more on this. Mainly what Artanis' thoughts on me were back then (and at which point of the game was this?).

It was mostly Tina's toneread, and me trusting her. She explained how you usually interact with people in that you very much realize that you can be wrong and work with people. My apprehension was that I didn't feel like your arguments were strong enough yet to truly read as town at that point; I think you're a good scumplayer, but from what I've seen on you is that you generally have more shallow reasoning as mafia than as town and that's what I try to read you on. Given the early stage of the game I just wasn't as confident yet. This was around the time we gave our first reads, I think.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 19:44 GMT
#446
Also, we're both amused at Rayn playing thread police
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 20:03 GMT
#447
We also don't think the Rels-GM interaction looks like town-town, and in particular looks bad on Rels. It looks more like he's trying to make something happen and focusing on small issues that he just posts a lot about rather than trying to work with people. Kind of more of the same. The issue discussed was insignificant and doesn't really make anyone scum.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 21:01 GMT
#463
On December 15 2015 05:36 Damdred wrote:
Rayn it is hard, maybe medic will be in group of three and make it easy lolol.
I'm still super paranoid about dp but I think he's town maybe.

One thing going against rels which is total eifom in my mind was Marv not jumping on him to work with you and preserve himself. But at the same time why would he if he had done enough to get you and I off of him you could scream rels home and he got to sit back. Besides that I like some of the effort/logic rels is using.

Idk I'm still torn on gm Marv I think gave a read on everyone but gm? Ignored him to a point and eod made me throw my hands up about him.

tina/art have no cred from the Marv flip but I like what they say when they are here but something bugs me to an extent about them. Mube they aren't as helpful as they should be or as involved

Lexmessage cause Tina thinks I'm silly;

The main reason we haven't been as involved in terms of interacting with the thread is because we can bounce our reads off on each other and just post in the thread when we have formulated our reads or feel the need to interact with our reads, really. It's just a very different way of playing the game. As for Marv flipping scum and us afking on him, I do actually think that gives us some cred because Marv coming back to the thread when his scumbuddy is afk is just not something that's likely to happen. Marv and I talk occasionally and I'm sure we would've communicated about it. He wouldn't have come back without that.

Additionally, we've just been distracted, sick, and all that stuff.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:09 GMT
#498
Okay, we've decided to re-evaluate everything and we've come to some shocking revelations.

After rereading over all the posts, we've decided Rayn is the most likely scum. He was inconsistent in his reads on Greymist. At first, he didn't want to lynch him, then suddenly he does. It just doesn't make any sense.

Secondly, we also think Damdred is mafia. LoneMeow is a bastard host and it was actually Rels who flipped vanilla town. Marv was also town.

DarthPunk we aren't sure on. We thought he might be town because he buddied people early but then he started making posts that made sense so now we're not sure.

GreYMisT.. Well, we thought he was town for everything but then he misconstrued something he once said in an argument about an argument in an argument so we guess he's mafia anyway.

Unfortunately this means the game is already lost because there's too many mafia
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:10 GMT
#500
##Vote Clarity
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:12 GMT
#502
On December 15 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
RtaniSoul you're actually the medic?

No, we're the vigilante.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:12 GMT
#503
We're also a death miller detective.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:13 GMT
#504
And possibly schizophrenic.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:15 GMT
#507
On December 15 2015 07:14 GreYMisT wrote:
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On December 15 2015 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
RtaniSoul you're actually the medic?


And you're blue hunting?

lol
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:18 GMT
#510
raaaaaaaaaaayn
we're gonna win
Unless you lynch us. Then we might not win.
Lighten up
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:22 GMT
#513
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#teamgirlydrinks
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:25 GMT
#517
On December 15 2015 07:24 GreYMisT wrote:
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On December 15 2015 07:22 RtaniSoul wrote:
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#teamgirlydrinks


yes you are playing together. Can we get back to talking about the game

Well, the game feels figured out to us. We're still pretty sure on Rels, and if it isn't Rels it's you so, bottoms up!
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:26 GMT
#519
On December 15 2015 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 15 2015 07:22 RtaniSoul wrote:
[image loading]
#teamgirlydrinks

I wanna have a skype conversation with you if you are drunk. :p
for once it's not me who's drunk haha ^^

We're fine with that we're on Lex' skype.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 14 2015 22:26 GMT
#520
On December 15 2015 07:26 GreYMisT wrote:
I take it you dont feel good about rayns "plan" then?

His plan is obviously good for town. That's why we lol'd.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
December 15 2015 14:38 GMT
#563
Quite simply, the doctor should claim so there's no chance of a scum fake claim in lylo/mylo (with a couple possible exceptions that should be obvious).

We could try hard here, but what's the point? Lynch Rels, and if he for some weird reason flips town, lynch GM. DP is right; if GM is scum it's not for that. To us the game is basically solved? So no, we really don't care anymore, especially when we were getting scumreads for being too clean. Newsflash: we're townie because we're town, not some stupid bullshit mindfuck only scum players are townie narrative. (Yes, I'm looking at you, rayn.)
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