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On December 18 2015 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2015 23:34 Rels wrote:On December 18 2015 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 18 2015 23:19 Rels wrote:
How do you know scum can no-kill ? I am not going to answer your dumb shit... You're lucky I have to assume you're town 'cause I would have tunneled the shit out of you if it was not LYLO. That's it. I am never going to switch my vote. This is just so fucking bullshit you cannot be town.
Alright. Goodbye. You deserve what happens to you regardless of alignement. If you are town, I just prove I couldn't be partner with marv. You can WIFOM this all you want, it's proven and you are bad for not realizing it.
If you're scum, you kinda deserve the win too, 'cause nobody can't do anything against you.
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Well at least if I die it's not my fault. It's proven I cannot be partner with marv. See you later bad and scum.
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On December 19 2015 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I literally tried, in my every post on N2 and D3, to get a townie response from you Rels.
You have given zero. You have somethings to learn still, regardless of your alignment.
If i ask loaded questions for two fucking days straight and you manage to post zero posts where you towntell even a single bit, then you are probably mafia. And that is a fact.
You can mock me all you want but the truth is i fucking lynched mafia and you didn't. And you haven't played thatwell in case you are town. It is a fact.
No. The fact that you are not townreading me is a fucking towntell enough already.
YOU are bad if you lynch me and if you're town. This is a fact because:
- Your cases are full of nothing. I think the way I play is obviously town, but I conceive someone else can think I can fake it; still, it's not proving anything
- marv not busing me / me not busing marv is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY
You've changed. DP is not super scummy, but he's not townie. You've let ONE post with an excuse change your mind; when the logical answer is "Rels is town". You're not playing logically anymore.
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On December 19 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:04 Rels wrote:
I think the way I play is obviously town
Obviously. This is backed up by the fact that hydra thought you are scum, greymist thought you are scum, i think you are scum and DP thinks you are scum. You're obviously playing so fucking townie. Please keep arguing how townie you have play because it makes total fucking sense.
Yep. It's due to me being AFK for the first phase + my scum play being super good.
Not everybody though. Damdred was townreading me before he died.
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Whatever though. You've played with me. I try to deflect the lynches off my partners; but I bus them if it's not possible to do otherwise, and I DONT TOWNREAD THEM IF THEY ARE SUSPICIOUS.
SOTW: Damdred AFK: D1 I deflect the lynch from him by saying "he will be checked". I get him lynched D2 to keep fidei alive + town cred.
Fidei: I scumread him starting D2.
Drams: I bus the shit out of Shining when Trfel starts to suspect him. SL is a potential scum.
Crossfire: my partner is in my lynch list the entire game.
Resistance: I scumread Artanis starting phase 2; I prove with meta that Xata is town, but I have a hard time calling him town.
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On December 19 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:11 Rels wrote:
Not everybody though. Damdred was townreading me before he died. Maybe you should have shot somebody else.
Or maybe ...
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On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:
1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD
If DP is lynched => LYLO; marv and I, who were the two potential lynches, look super bad. A LITTLE BAD and UNLIKELY ANYWAY
If marv is lynched => It looks like both scum didn't want to vote for each other. I look bad. BAD
This is literally not possible for marv + I to do. marv + I are not beginner scum. There is a slight chance we did it for the WIFOM; but it's proven beyond reasonnable doubts we are not partners.
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On December 19 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:15 Rels wrote:
Whatever though. You've played with me. I try to deflect the lynches off my partners; but I bus them if it's not possible to do otherwise, and I DONT TOWNREAD THEM IF THEY ARE SUSPICIOUS.
SOTW: Damdred AFK: D1 I deflect the lynch from him by saying "he will be checked". I get him lynched D2 to keep fidei alive + town cred.
Fidei: I scumread him starting D2.
Drams: I bus the shit out of Shining when Trfel starts to suspect him. SL is a potential scum.
Crossfire: my partner is in my lynch list the entire game.
Resistance: I scumread Artanis starting phase 2; I prove with meta that Xata is town, but I have a hard time calling him town. Except you never townread marv and your read on him throughout the game was super fucking fishy. What you said after D1 makes no sense if i compare it to your actions on D1. I don't care what you did in other games. Especially since Resistance and the xfire game works very differently from normal mafia --> bussing your partner / at least one partner is the correct play for mafia in both of those games. Drams: see where it got you? we figured the shit out of the game SOTW: you only survived because town was fucking retarded. wow.. that were those games.
I would have won Drams if not for the retarded role claim. It was an absolutely correct play. And I'm only proving that marv and I would have bused each other as scum.
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On December 19 2015 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:EBWOP: Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:19 Rels wrote: On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:
1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD
This is entirely incorrect and you should realize this is entirely incorrect since every other player in this game realizes this.
What ? You really think marv could have survived 2 lynches in this high level town ? He was being lynched sooner or later; so the correct assumption to make here is that he did his best to give his teammate an advantage.
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If you're scum I will hate you for making me lose my time for nothing.
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On December 19 2015 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:This: Show nested quote +1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD
If DP is lynched => LYLO; marv and I, who were the two potential lynches, look super bad. A LITTLE BAD and UNLIKELY ANYWAY
If marv is lynched => It looks like both scum didn't want to vote for each other. I look bad. BAD opposed to this: Show nested quote +2: marv + DP is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. GOOD
If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum). BAD but UNLIKELY
If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. SUPER GOOD is wrong.
Mm.
No.
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On December 19 2015 00:23 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:22 Rels wrote:On December 19 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2015 00:15 Rels wrote:
Whatever though. You've played with me. I try to deflect the lynches off my partners; but I bus them if it's not possible to do otherwise, and I DONT TOWNREAD THEM IF THEY ARE SUSPICIOUS.
SOTW: Damdred AFK: D1 I deflect the lynch from him by saying "he will be checked". I get him lynched D2 to keep fidei alive + town cred.
Fidei: I scumread him starting D2.
Drams: I bus the shit out of Shining when Trfel starts to suspect him. SL is a potential scum.
Crossfire: my partner is in my lynch list the entire game.
Resistance: I scumread Artanis starting phase 2; I prove with meta that Xata is town, but I have a hard time calling him town. Except you never townread marv and your read on him throughout the game was super fucking fishy. What you said after D1 makes no sense if i compare it to your actions on D1. I don't care what you did in other games. Especially since Resistance and the xfire game works very differently from normal mafia --> bussing your partner / at least one partner is the correct play for mafia in both of those games. Drams: see where it got you? we figured the shit out of the game SOTW: you only survived because town was fucking retarded. wow.. that were those games. I would have won Drams if not for the retarded role claim. It was an absolutely correct play. And I'm only proving that marv and I would have bused each other as scum. Pretty sure you did whatever the fuck marv told you to do in the scum qt.
Yep because "not busing each other even when we are #1 & #2 lynches" is the master plan marv concocted.
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On December 19 2015 00:24 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:23 Rels wrote:On December 19 2015 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:EBWOP: On December 19 2015 00:19 Rels wrote: On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:
1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD
This is entirely incorrect and you should realize this is entirely incorrect since every other player in this game realizes this. What ? You really think marv could have survived 2 lynches in this high level town ? He was being lynched sooner or later; so the correct assumption to make here is that he did his best to give his teammate an advantage. I thought everyone was fucking retarded for not town reading you or whatever. Now it's a high level town.
Yep. I'm only considered for lynch because my scum play is good.
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On December 19 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:25 Rels wrote:On December 19 2015 00:24 DarthPunk wrote:On December 19 2015 00:23 Rels wrote:On December 19 2015 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:EBWOP: On December 19 2015 00:19 Rels wrote: On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:
1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD
This is entirely incorrect and you should realize this is entirely incorrect since every other player in this game realizes this. What ? You really think marv could have survived 2 lynches in this high level town ? He was being lynched sooner or later; so the correct assumption to make here is that he did his best to give his teammate an advantage. I thought everyone was fucking retarded for not town reading you or whatever. Now it's a high level town. Yep. I'm only considered for lynch because my scum play is good. That's not true.
Yep it is.
On December 19 2015 00:23 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:EBWOP: On December 19 2015 00:19 Rels wrote: On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:
1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD
This is entirely incorrect and you should realize this is entirely incorrect since every other player in this game realizes this. What ? You really think marv could have survived 2 lynches in this high level town ? He was being lynched sooner or later; so the correct assumption to make here is that he did his best to give his teammate an advantage.
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Starting here I will stop writing "rayn assuming you're town". This is the non return point; if you're scum, you have won. Gratz. Please stop making me lose my time for nothing if that is the case.
rayn, what is funny if you lynch me is that you're bad for underestimating BOTH marv's and I. It is absolutely not possible for us to not bus each other at deadline when we are #1 and #2 lynch candidates. marv's scumplay is obvious 'cause he's not motivated; but by lynching me you're insulting his intelligence as well as mine.
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On December 19 2015 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HOW CAN YOU EVEN FUCKING SAY YOU DON'T BELIEVE I AM TELLING THE TRUTH IF YOU DON'T THINK I AM MAFIA?!?!?!?
I've scumhunt the entire game, and the only reason you're not townreading me for it is because you know I can fake that pretty well. The end. I think I won't ever be mislynched as scum ever again 'cause it's so easy to appear good with info; but last game I was mislynched as town 'cause I voted town over scum in a close vote.
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On December 19 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Starting here I will stop writing "rayn assuming you're town". This is the non return point; if you're scum, you have won. Gratz. Please stop making me lose my time for nothing if that is the case.
rayn, what is funny if you lynch me is that you're bad for underestimating BOTH marv's and I. It is absolutely not possible for us to not bus each other at deadline when we are #1 and #2 lynch candidates. marv's scumplay is obvious 'cause he's not motivated; but by lynching me you're insulting his intelligence as well as mine. Except your reasoning is flawed for both of you since: 1) you were not the main lynch target when marv was around 2) you didn't even read what was going on when you came back so....
#1 who was then ?
#2 obviously if I'm scum that's not true
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On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:
OK I will resume one last time because you are all annoying me.
What happened at EOD1
marv is the lynch. marv starts posting. Rels is the lynch. marv deflects off Rels and pushes on DP. DP sheeps rayn on Rels. Rels deflects off marv and pushes on Arsoul.
Possible lynches: marv, DP, Rels.
1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD
If DP is lynched => LYLO; marv and I, who were the two potential lynches, look super bad. A LITTLE BAD and UNLIKELY ANYWAY
If marv is lynched => It looks like both scum didn't want to vote for each other. I look bad. BAD
2: marv + DP is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ?
If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. GOOD
If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum). BAD but UNLIKELY
If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. SUPER GOOD
Well read this again and think about it.
It doesn't make DP scum; I merely put it to show EOD1 didn't make DP town.
It proves I'm town. If you think I'm scum you think marv and I are beginner scums.
The end. I've solved the game for you. You're bad if you don't make the right decision. You have like 30 hours to think about it.
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On December 19 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:37 Rels wrote:On December 19 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:
Starting here I will stop writing "rayn assuming you're town". This is the non return point; if you're scum, you have won. Gratz. Please stop making me lose my time for nothing if that is the case.
rayn, what is funny if you lynch me is that you're bad for underestimating BOTH marv's and I. It is absolutely not possible for us to not bus each other at deadline when we are #1 and #2 lynch candidates. marv's scumplay is obvious 'cause he's not motivated; but by lynching me you're insulting his intelligence as well as mine. Except your reasoning is flawed for both of you since: 1) you were not the main lynch target when marv was around 2) you didn't even read what was going on when you came back so.... #1 who was then ? #2 obviously if I'm scum that's not true 1) marv the most -- DP, rsoultin, you, greymist were all considered scum (and damdred and me by greymist, but we were not exactly "possible lynch targets")
And Damdred and you were indicating being more Ok for my lynch over anyone else.
On December 19 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
2) is it not? why is it not? would you lie about spending time with your gf instead of playing mafia if you are scum? and you call other people cheap.... hilarious. maybe you should think what is AtE and how people use it and why, because you are the worst in that regards.
I didn't get it but OK.
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On December 19 2015 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 00:41 Rels wrote:
You have like 30 hours to think about it. You had about 72 hours to convince me otherwise and all you ended up doing was saying stupid shit.
It's the most logical analysis I've ever done.
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