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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 06:35 GMT
#357
Still looking over everyone, but I'm sort of stuck on rels. Like I just don't understand his play coming from an experienced player (at least I presume he is based on posts). Like in addition to the things Koshi already said about him, his question seemed to go towards this weird meta-lynch on LS. Like look at this post:

On December 15 2015 08:05 Rels wrote:
I stayed up for posting this. I thought the deadline was 1 hour earlier.

Here is LS filter from the game I just played, in which he was town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike

Here is his filter from this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike

It's a schocking difference. LS as town in dark tournament mafia posted reads, questionned stuff and overall looked to solve the game. In this game, he had NO game-related post until I asked him for a list of reads.

I think this guy is scum.
##Vote LightningStrike


There's 9 hours between this post and LS replying to his list. In these 9 hours, LS is pretty on top of things, his content isn't isolated to this list that was requested, and they're pretty relevant to the game. I don't think LS is particularly townie, but this is a pretty bullshit case on him.

It just feels like rels posted a weird question and then wanted to attach meaning to it so he put up this weird argument that doesn't even make sense. He even ignored that already noted scummy post from LS (the one where he's talking about conserving posts for the filter), the dude he's talking about.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 07:08 GMT
#363
##Vote Rels

Pretty comfortable with this now after looking at filters. Heading to bed now
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 17:41 GMT
#434
Why do people think my read on rels was the only thing I got out of the filter/thread readover? If you look up you'll see I also had scum reads on tt and shape. Like all these people saying I didn't fulfill promises or came out of reading filters and thread again with 1 awful scum read are just wrong.

Clearly I made a mistake reading LS's filter going over it again (I honestly don't know where), so going to unvote rels and put my vote back on tt.

##unvote
##vote tictock
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 17:42 GMT
#435
I'm going to library to study so I'll be around on mobile for like 30 minutes, but then I'm going to be turning off my phone to concentrate.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 17:51 GMT
#441
Post #342 for those who are looking at shape's post. Does not say confirmed anywhere in this post.

On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment
tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.

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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2015 17:53 GMT
#444
Confirmed is a pretty strong word in mafia, I think you misread him saying that he had a stronger town read on you than the ones he listed as probably.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 01:22 GMT
#703
Just got home, probably won't post until tomorrow though as I'm dealing with subletting my place.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 03:16 GMT
#707
On December 16 2015 11:26 Tictock wrote:
I'm probably going to reread Damdred if he's not back at it D2, but I think his shenannies on Vivax were a good idea poorly executed.

I also hope Kush is able to give this game some effort now that he's got some time.

Tube is totally null to me, I almost forgot he was in this game.

I think Rit should be my first reread but my initial feeling is that his EoD lacked the bluster of some of his earlier posts and I think he's overreacting to Damdred's shenanigans, especially when GB was one of his scumreads.

How in the world is a vote change to someone with no votes with very little time left a good idea with poor execution. It is a braindead move.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 17:12 GMT
#729
On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Kushm4sta knowing his alignment helps me think more about Rels. Associative reads BAD mmmkay.


Could you elaborate TS?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 19:20 GMT
#741
Alright, let's talk about shape, who I will be voting for D2 if possible.

General themes of his play are large bodies of text that end up saying <= 1 thing. Most content he's put out is elaborate recaps or joking around. He's posted a few list posts but I'll go in to why those are not very good either.

On December 15 2015 10:30 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 09:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Shape can you give me your thoughts cleary now that you did sleep?


Sure. At least i can try too. I do it in a list too. I love lists for the most part.

GigyaS: Null for the most part. Waiting for him to get back from studying and what not. The few posts he has posted have been decent (more towards the begaining of the day.) Still waiting for his response about me (i'm selfish) (nvm TT responded)
Koshi: Improved, I wouldn't mind putting him as town atm. Hasn't done anything scummy (some light stuff at the beginning, but that about it.) But i think he should build a circle of love.
Rels: I gotten a Town vibe from him, But not enough really. His LS push felt townie since for the most part it was out the window. Gotten to read D1 from dark tourney, not sure 100% yet about the whole thing yet.
Tubesock: 2 posts, but 1st post was ok. Waiting to see more.
GB: No Clue
Vivax: MIA
Surkit: Aggressive, pushes for little to no reasons. Getting a scummy feel off of him. Also involves Koshi when i point him out about TT and how I didn't push Koshi when he did and what not. I mean he's ping ponging from person from person, never really staying on a person except Koshi. Now is on me. Would be in head for 1st day lynch.
Kush: Null for now. Pretty sure GB said he was scummy; Don't agree with GB but i not defending Kush.
Shapelog: About to get drunk for no good reason.
TT: Don't really have a full blown case on him. wished he didn't defend damred earlier on but still. Seems concern about the game. Kinda had a scummy lean/feel on him, mostly from my gut. Gut is where my shit is, so this may be shit.
Ritoky: Called me town, defended(ish) me as town. Then left. Do not know why he is doing this. I mean i like it sense I am town. Maybe he really likes my plays or something, idc/idk.
LS: Town vibe, rereading dark tourment. Rels did bring a good point thou. However, still like his early game and his jokingness. Also Yelling about voting seems about right.
Damred: Null leaning town, most posts are NAI but time is telling.

Mostly i'm just waiting. except for Surkit.

Shall rethink in shower

Overall, a pointless post. Pretty much all null reads, but there's a slight contradiction in that he has a town lean on Damdred but wishes TT didn't defend him earlier (referring to my two posts asking questions that weren't because of suspicions at Damdred).

On December 16 2015 02:45 Shapelog wrote:
(damm i didn't know tab enters text lol)

But I left this off from far fetch theory:

At ##342, he said i was confirmed town. Not maybe, or very, Confirmed. Does this not bother anyone. I mean idk why i fighting against this so hard. But then again, everyone said I was town/thought i was townish at the beginning and i just went on posting garbage tbh. I haven't posted anything uber townie. But he ranks me higher then Koshi? Weird.
Then when someone asks why he is defending me, its "next level thinking" response. Why not explain what so next level about it? Why is that only convinced thought? That derps is Town and not NAI? I mean i love the free town read, but it suspicious to me.


This was the post he was referring to:
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment
tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.


As you can see, no confirmed anywhere in that sentence. I pointed out earlier and he blames this on a misread of the situation and quickly backs off. Then he posts this crazy elaborate theory that he then debunks in the same post, posts it anyway, and keeps Rit under his scum leans anyway. It just feels weird that twice now he's come up for reasons to lynch the same person for awful reasons, both of which he hides under calling them far-fetched theories in the same post that he puts them up. To me, it is at worst a scummate trying to bus a teammate for credit, or at best someone trying to appear active by posting theories that end up saying nothing by the end of the same post.

And then we get his thoughts on around GB/kush:
#450/451, doesn't feel good about kush or TT lynch, likes the idea of offing GB for inactivity
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 16 2015 03:16 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 03:00 Koshi wrote:
Fuck that shit. I am going to calm down and read. I really think Onegu should just be lynched for being the dumbest fucker alive who appears to also be mafia but seriously.

I felt really good about my TT, GB, Kush and Rels list earlier.


I only feel good about GB. inactive for the most part, and anyone can get drunk. But not always at the right time. Seemed he entered when it was beneficial.


On December 16 2015 03:20 Shapelog wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 15 2015 23:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 16:02 Tubesock wrote:
On December 15 2015 15:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 15 2015 15:53 Tubesock wrote:
On December 15 2015 15:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 15 2015 15:16 Tubesock wrote:
GB who do you want to lynch?

GiygaS anything new in your notes? Who do you want to lynch?


Drunk senses say we should lynxh Koshi



Don't get me wrong, my best theories were drunk theories but Koshimizu doesn't seem mafia at all. What makes you think so?


My drunk senses are like the spider senses of Spider-Man . They don't have trasons. Reasons. They feel


So basically, so far this game you are only interested in smurf hunting (which is over). Are you going to contribute at all?


I've seen nothing suspicious and worth of contributing. I won't force a read I don't have.

What I do have is a town read on shapelog, he seems fairly townie to me because he drops every single thought he has on the thread, and a lot of them are paranoia, which looks townie. Other than that, nothing seems really relevant.

I will do a re read once I can, but today I work until deadline. Let's see if I will be able

(i'm spoiling this because of my filter is almost at 4 pages)

This feels weird. Its like, "I have nothing and that's about it". He comments on me, then states he won't be here. It's almost like he skating by. Might be work, but if I say that everytime no one is getting lynched lol. Interested to see what happens when he rereads.



#469 Votes TT (first contradiction). Reasoning is just parroting. Notable quote: "I been having a scummy feel off of him and hoping he would pick up but he hasn't" (If 18 posts his opinion on TT was changed)
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On December 16 2015 04:18 Shapelog wrote:
Then lets fix this.
We have a TT which is different from Haunted mafia. Onegu had a post about TT awhile ago. Koshi asked GB his ideas about TT. He seems different from it too IMO. I been having a scummy feel off of him and hoping he would pick up but he hasn't

##Vote Ticktock


And who knows Koshi. With step-up being random, someone might be Sugar fairy and heal.



#541/542 Scum list now in order is kush, tt at the top. He's pulled a comeplete 180 in his scum-list, and for seemingly no reason other than sheeping. Mentions "Oh yeah and GB " in next post, but somehow he's dropped to position 5, underneath Rit. Please remember that this is between far-fetched theory #1 and far-fetched-theory #2, and before GB comes back at 551, so "he became more active" is not an excuse.
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On December 16 2015 06:44 Shapelog wrote:
Right now i'm tore on TT. One hand i want to lynch him because earlier stuff. On the other hand, these last minute posts kinda influenced me. Might lynch someone else to see his D2 and go from there.

Right now my lynch list (from high to low): Kush (nothing from him), TT and damred, Rit?

On December 16 2015 06:44 Shapelog wrote:
Oh yeah and GB



582é613 wants to lynch kush because he's a lurker. Has reasons for others, but kush is at the top of the list, purely for lurking. He explains this later saying that it's because of kush's meta, but remember this in a second.
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On December 16 2015 06:59 Shapelog wrote:
Alright everyone we were going to lynch showed up except Kush.
TT
+ Show Spoiler +
I am not confinde in him yet. I unvoted so i could hear his agurment against Rik. Not sure about him, i been having a scummy/null feeling about him. His posts when he came back i admit feels rushed, But might be because he felt pressure from lynch? idk, but he starting to look like he did in Haunted mason

Damred
+ Show Spoiler +
RL stuff, Want Bomb

GB
+ Show Spoiler +
Again RL stuff. However, weaker case vs Damred because he had sunday to post and his posts seems lackluster. Might just be him on D1 who knows


I say if Kush doesn't come we lynch him

On December 16 2015 07:29 Shapelog wrote:
Well something came up so i won't be here till 8 ish.
##Vote:Kush
Voting kush due to lurking and guess what hes lurking. Meta read though, just best right now for me.




And now he thinks kush is scum because he has a "gut hard read" that he's scum. Completely abandoning his prior reasoning.

Anyway, I'm off to the library so I'll be around on mobile for 30 minutes, then I'll be gone until at least EoN.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 19:21 GMT
#742
EBWOP: #582/613, damn french keyboard switching.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 19:25 GMT
#743
Oh should be mentionned that GB and lush are at the top of the list for inactivity but they were far from most inactive in the game at those points.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 19:51 GMT
#746
After thought I should also mention that the shenanigans yesterday only really mean anything if kush is scum, and that TT and Sanders should be equally implicated, as the mid lynch wouldn't have happened without both. TT looks worse imo based on him wasting the vote and then hammering with little time left.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 23:05 GMT
#783
Sorry to burst your bubble shape, but sanders=autocorrected damdred somehow
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2015 23:45 GMT
#787
I mean I was/am on mobile and somehow i misspelled so that damdred turned in to sanders after autocorrect
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 17 2015 04:44 GMT
#841
Gonna back off shape for time being after his recent activity. Still don't have him as scum but he's not my first choice (still tt in my head but I'll have to go over filter tomorrow to see why everyone else has changed their mind on him, his cases EoD1 didn't seem all that great)
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 17 2015 23:14 GMT
#955
He also filtered me at the request of someone (came up town). Don't know what I think about the cases, had revised my rels read since he was more active. I'll go through his and TT's filter after my exam tomorrow (sorry for not being around a lot, expected this to start next week since it was supposed to be a bigger game initially). Also, where is Vivax? Thought he was gonna show up more after EoD yesterday.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 17 2015 23:15 GMT
#956
For the record, I will be much more active 2 days from now, as I have two more finals. One tomorrow, one the day after. After that I'm getting on a plane but it's only a 5 hour flight and I have plenty of time in between it and my last final.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 17 2015 23:25 GMT
#958
Real talk though is there something that gives push notifications on your phone whenever there's a new mafia post?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 17 2015 23:32 GMT
#960
There's no functional TL app, at least on Android. Meh, guess I'll just keep refreshing when I'm around.
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