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On December 03 2015 08:22 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 08:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Good night Rels. When you come back give thoughts about the game after you went to sleep please? Do you have any stance on MoosyDoosy/NocturneMage now?
I prob get better read off once NM when he gets here as he is much easier to read over MD in my opinion(NM's scum and town games are miles apart)
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But overall MD is prob just null for me atm because he's hard to read.
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Damdred you accept my apology? I sorry what I did to you this game 
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On December 03 2015 08:33 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 08:29 LightningStrike wrote:Damdred you accept my apology? I sorry what I did to you this game I wasn't even mad when it happened so no need to apologize. Though Rsoultin probably would call me scum for that.
Hahah. Okay fair enough
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Well I gtg now as my dad needs to get himself something to east after he drops me off somewhere I will get back to you guys at 9:15 pm CST or around that time!
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I here now guys(gotten some ice cream with my dad) and NM posted. Seems okay for now. Wondering if it was triple town that were up for lynch today in terms of the big wagons that had happened at EoD. Hmmm
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On December 03 2015 12:29 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 12:26 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now guys(gotten some ice cream with my dad) and NM posted. Seems okay for now. Wondering if it was triple town that were up for lynch today in terms of the big wagons that had happened at EoD. Hmmm Can you point out anything that specifically seems towny? Both trfel and I have expressed concerns about NM's posts do you have anything to say there?
He tried to break it down a little about EoD although not much but he seems to be trying to figure out what was going on EoD because of the mess at EoD(my fault for being bad ) I think that once he comes back he should be able to help us more than MD.
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On December 03 2015 13:08 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 06:17 Half the Sky wrote:On December 03 2015 05:22 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 05:15 disformation wrote:On December 03 2015 04:44 Trfel wrote:On December 01 2015 08:37 Rels wrote:
Yo.
If you're boxer you fucking shut up. There is two possible mafia setups: one with two possible town setups with one boxer each so it doesn't matter. And one when we have either boxer + vet, or cop + vig. In that last case, mafia wants to roleblock their kill target in the vet setup, or roleblock someone else on the cop + vig setup.
Boxer claiming would make them know what is the thing to do.
Tldr if you're boxer you shut up unless you're getting lynched.
Tldr 2 the two people pushing for boxer to claim are suspicious. Damdred and doyouhas I'm going to bring this up again. Please, hear me out, but I DO NOT WANT TO START A MECHANICS DISCUSSION. First, I will assume that the argument that Rels presents about the BoxeR claiming is 100% correct. No matter what. No questions asked. Just for the purpose of this argument. With this assumption, and two people telling the BoxeR to claim, it's important for this argument to be made as quickly as possible so that the BoxeR can see it and not claim. The thing is, Rels presents a really well-explained argument for this. It kind of feels too good to be true. He's already stopped to analyze the setups from a mafia perspective, and see what they know, and see what town knows. He's 100% sure that mafia doesn't know which setup the game uses, despite the standard Blazinghand newbie game using a similar four-option setup where the mafia team IS told the setup. Like, I know that Rels is good. But is he really this good? His first post of the game, 37 minutes after the day began.... It doesn't feel quite right. Okay. Let me try. So you assume that the good play for town/boxeR is to not claim. Two people say the opposite. So Rels rushes to the help of town and presents a good argument why boxeR should not claim. So a) he is town or b) he wants the town cred. He analyzes the setup, which is possible as either alignment. hmmm... the op doesn't say whether mafia knows the setup or not... and you are right he seems pretty convinced that mafia does not know the setup. This part is kinda strange indeed... The parts about it feels too good and is he this good confuse me a bit though. Like what do they add to this argument, besides making it look like a fear read a lot? =p maybe I should go and read rels more in depth... Maybe this is just not a good argument at all. One more try. The key word is that Rels is rushing to the aid of town. Rushing, because speed is important. And his post is extremely knowledgeable, and is a really comprehensive explanation. I find it hard to believe that he got confirmation that scum didn't know the setup in time to make this post, for example. If Rels was around earlier, he should have been posting. Town wouldn't avoid posting like that. Basically, Rels took extra time to make sure his argument was completely explained and correct, when town wants to post as quickly as possible. This makes me wonder if the motivation behind the post is, instead of helping town, to make himself look better, which would mean that Rels is mafia. The argument falls apart if Rels is good enough to make this post as town without taking much extra time, which is what I was trying to get at. That seems really unlikely, but I can't completely rule it out. Not sure I like or agree with this post. I might be biased here because I've cohosted two games now with Rels, both of which are themed and both of which require him to know his mechanics in depth. I concluded this post alone was NAI because anyone skilled enough or knowledgeable enough about setup spec can speak to their opinions about what certain roles should and should not do. My opinion based on what I read in the OP/day post was that scum can narrow down the setup as they know their own roles so Rels' post is reasonable based on the fact that if the boxer claims, they can further narrow down the setup. The part about 100% sure on the setup is completely false, based on his saying "there are two possible setups....etc" no they don't know for sure but like I said before they can narrow it down based on how BH (and clearly you know from what you've posted?) assigns the roles in his games in the mafia QT, and that would appear to be Rels argument. I don't know where you are getting "took extra time" (I'm seeing a 10 minute gap between Damdred's and Rels response and from what I'm reading of the thread/their filters, for both players it is their first appearances in the thread, 23:27 and 23:37 respectively) or how you'd know he would have posted that otherwise unless I'm reading that sentence wrong. What I'm trying to say is it appears to me that you are reaching here especially since as Rels hadn't posted yet in the thread so I don't know how you can even assume that. It seems like a few assumptions "if he was around" etc. but even if you are making the argument that 10 minutes is too long for him to construct his post, that's still a poor assumption because when you look at his filter that 23:37 post is the first post he makes in the game. You don't know if he arrives at 23:35, sees that and just churns it out which makes the "completely explained and correct" part a reach on your end as well. For the record, Half the Sky, I don't think you understand what I'm trying to get across at all. Maybe my argument is very flawed, but your comments don't respond to the argument that I was attempting to make. I hope to re-explain my argument at a later time. @LightningStrike, do you still think that Damdred is town?
Yes.
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Good morning I just woke up.
On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot.
Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1.
Here his fitler from that game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar
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On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ?
1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game)
2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me.
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On December 03 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ? 1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game) 2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me. Have you ever played / obsed scum!Palmar ? What is different from what you just said ?
Yes I have two times. first time around he tried hard Day 1 even thoguh it was in the weekend(He doesn't like playing on the weekend as town) and wass somewhat useless that entire esp just calling me a wizard for his read on me(Titanic I had a cunning plan). The 2nd game he was useless and he didn't try to do jack shit the entire game(Assassination).
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On December 03 2015 22:51 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ? 1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game) 2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me. Have you ever played / obsed scum!Palmar ? What is different from what you just said ? Yes I have two times. first time around he tried hard Day 1 even thoguh it was in the weekend(He doesn't like playing on the weekend as town) and was somewhat useless after that entire esp just calling me a wizard for his read on me(Titanic I had a cunning plan). The 2nd game he was useless and he didn't try to do jack shit the entire game(Assassination).
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On December 03 2015 22:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:51 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 00:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 02 2015 22:26 Damdred wrote:
##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee Ugh what you reason for voting James here? looked in your filter and couldn't find anything :o LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore? Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 07:29 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the LS lynch is good.
I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make. This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ? 1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game) 2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me. Have you ever played / obsed scum!Palmar ? What is different from what you just said ? Yes I have two times. first time around he tried hard Day 1 even thoguh it was in the weekend(He doesn't like playing on the weekend as town) and wass somewhat useless that entire esp just calling me a wizard for his read on me(Titanic I had a cunning plan). The 2nd game he was useless and he didn't try to do jack shit the entire game(Assassination). Alright. I obsed a game where he was scum with marv and whoever and he was far from useless. Talking about this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494010-completely-normal-generic-mini-mafia?user=PalmarSo I don't think this meta read means anything. I usually don't like meta read; applied to a good scum player, they are difficult to make, 'cause of course he is going to play like his town meta.
I will check that game out as I didn't obsed it.
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On December 03 2015 23:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:59 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:56 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:51 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:On December 03 2015 22:30 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:16 LightningStrike wrote:Good morning I just woke up. On December 03 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:Palmar might be scum: an unsure accusationI don't have a strong scumread on Palmar. There is no slip to be found in his filter. But I know Palmar is a strong scum player, so it's super unlikely to find a slip in there. Here is why I'm suspicious of him: 1. His reads followed the thread sentiment D1D1, Palmar started by tunneling Shining on something true but small. This is NAI. But after that, Palmar's posts about people were boring. Just boring. Examples: On December 02 2015 05:04 Palmar wrote:
So I misread DYH and his post is not as atrocious as I thought it was while phonereading today.
Still bad, still a good default lynch.
I'm not actually putting a ton of effort into this game but I don't want to lynch into this list: Trfel, Fidei, HTS, disformation. Maybe Rels belongs there too. This is in no way a "these people are town" list, just a "I have seen something that makes me not want to lynch them right now".
Damdred is being a bit weird but I'm not gonna call him mafia yet.
Also, Kush and Onegu are useless baddies who will be useless throughout the game. Flipping a coin and lynching one of them is a good play
OK to lynch the guy with the most votes ATM. All active players are given a pass for today. OK to lynch on of the two uesless. On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. On December 02 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone know how to make moosy not be terrible? On December 03 2015 01:12 Palmar wrote:
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LS are you mafia? On December 03 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Also, I'm warming up to the idea of lynching Fidei, he kinda deserves it. On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu). On December 03 2015 04:13 Palmar wrote:
Also the reason I might lynch you james is because you sound like a fucking machine all the time. On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator. All of this is boring with minimal scumhunt. And this culminates in ... 2. Palmar was apathetic towards the lynch; when he is proud of his D1 capacitiesPalmar is proud of his D1 reads: On December 01 2015 09:53 Palmar wrote:
Don't lie to town though, talking to me is a great way to getting us somewhere, I am actually pretty reasonable and I take pride in my day 1 play, so if you actually do the thing where you don't look like mafia I'm not going to want to kill you. However at the moment you have such massive holes in your story that I can't ignore it. But after stopping his Shining push, his reads were boring. At EOD, he was super apathetic and sheeped Trfel into Moosy, then Damdred into LS, then followed the thread sentiment to kush: On December 03 2015 04:09 Palmar wrote:
I like how you didn't even finish your sentence on me.
Nevertheless, I'm going to vote moosy. Trfel's idea prompted me to read his filter. His filter is absolute trash. On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:
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I know this??
That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. On December 03 2015 07:56 Palmar wrote:
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This is possibly an overexplanation He also left the thread 1 hour before deadline to come back 10 minutes for it for no good reason, when it always is the crucial moment to decide a good lynch: On December 03 2015 07:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.
I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. ConclusionGood cop check / vig shot. Honestly I think he's playing like he did in metal min or very similar esp the way he was posting towards Shining during early Day 1. Here his fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=Palmar I don't really care about The Shining push, as it's super easy to reproduce that as scum (tunneling someone on something specific). Not that it makes scum either. 1 - Were his reads boring in that game too ? 2 - Was he apathetic and not really caring of the lynches ? 1.a little bit esp his coag read just because he hates coag.(he didn't really give a real read on coag as far I remember from rereading his filter in that game) 2. If he thinks someone is mafia he does try to lynch them but he didn't outside of me until kush made that comment about why he(kush) wanted to lynch me. Have you ever played / obsed scum!Palmar ? What is different from what you just said ? Yes I have two times. first time around he tried hard Day 1 even thoguh it was in the weekend(He doesn't like playing on the weekend as town) and wass somewhat useless that entire esp just calling me a wizard for his read on me(Titanic I had a cunning plan). The 2nd game he was useless and he didn't try to do jack shit the entire game(Assassination). Alright. I obsed a game where he was scum with marv and whoever and he was far from useless. Talking about this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494010-completely-normal-generic-mini-mafia?user=PalmarSo I don't think this meta read means anything. I usually don't like meta read; applied to a good scum player, they are difficult to make, 'cause of course he is going to play like his town meta. I will check that game out as I didn't obsed it. OK. I got that you're a meta using player, but be careful with good scum players - they will replicate their town meta. If I had to chose, I would prefer having your take on this: Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 12:52 Trfel wrote:Like, here's something that's really been bugging me. On December 03 2015 06:13 Damdred wrote:
Sure LS usually even if he is wrong is a strongish prescense in the thread giving his opinion and trying to get people to interact with him while he gives scum reads.
He lacks real reads in the thread, the few he has given have been little substance. The one scum read I can tell in his filter was Trfel that he has totally backed off of. He isn't looking to push anyone he is just existing.
This is Damdred's scumread of LightningStrike this game, that started the whole LightningStrike wagon. Now, look at Newbie Student Mafia VIII (for reference, Damdred, LightningStrike, and I (Trfel) were all town. At one point in this game, I scumread LightningStrike for actually having no scumreads. Here's the quote: On April 21 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:LightningStrikeSome people don't learn. I am one of them. On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote:On March 19 2015 22:56 Damdred wrote:
Ls what are your current reads Town: Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX. rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT She also my whisper so listen to her on me. Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :| Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh. Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again). Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time. Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him. Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial. Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker. Null: Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read. Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia. raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious. Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh. Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him. Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :| Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post! This is a post that LightningStrike made in TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy. Note that he provided a bunch of town reads, and then a bunch of null reads. No scumreads at all. On April 19 2015 21:40 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back and saw TheBloodyDwarf complaining on the lack of Europeans in this thread. Also Shining had a question which will now be answered: On April 19 2015 14:57 The Shining wrote:
LightningStrike When you get back I want to see you actually do something. All I could gather from your posts is you're worried about getting scumread and you'll answer questions tomorrow. Can I get some preliminary reads from you when you do come back? I'm sure you'll have some thoughts on the posts you read when you wake up. Okay let's be honest here I usually get scumread for my early reads list by most people but here some thoughts on people: OWS: Null he haven't done much yet but I know when he post more I can give more of a accurate meta read because he haven't posted much. Shinging: Maybe Town you seem to be trying actually but I haven't forgiven you on being scum in our last game together LeiNadk: Just a confused townie most likely he being earnest I feel with him asking questions on how to play kinda reminds me of myself on my first game on TL. Tfrel: Null he can do most of his stuff as both alignments (Hinted at pregame he would do a really large post) Scott: He looked so damn townie when he was scum and he looks townie here to so null. Bourneq: Null he haven't really done much. Also Bourneq I'm here what's your thoughts so far? Compare that to LightningStrike's first post in this game. Notice the similarities? He actually doesn't provide a scumread for the entire game. Almost all of his filter is asking questions. The vast majority of his reads are in this one post. On April 20 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly this game si rather inactive and it kinda bad because scum can just hang back and not post :| LightningStrike didn't do anything to change the thread activity, he isn't pressuring anyone. LightningStrike is actually a good lynch here. ##unvote
##vote LightningStrike Read the arguments in this quote, and compare them to what Damdred said about LightningStrike this game. Damdred accuses LightningStrike of not having a strong presence, only one scum reads, no pushes, just existing. In Newbie Student Mafia VIII (quote above), I accused LightningStrike of having no scum reads, and just asking questions, not pressuring anyone, and not doing anything to change the thread activity. These are very similar reads. Here is Damdred's response to my case from Newbie Student Mafia VIII: On April 21 2015 03:59 Damdred wrote:zzzz On February 09 2015 01:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Yes gobbledydook been pretty inconsistent and his posting is weird but it's still early in the day and I never played with him before so I can't use meta on him
I still finding it weird you got a instant town read on me after I posted like twice before you called me town.
Here my pile for each type of read for now:
Town:
Rayn: Brought a early case and been pushing it pretty hard.
Lian: Because he actually trying this game asking some good questions towards oh and he not copying my meta like he did in Void I think it was.
Geript: His first post seem very much like his play in Student V although he seem to wasting some posts on fluff though if he trying to limit his posting.
Keirathi: He been very defensive early due to rayns case and kept on telling ryan he is town it really odd play from him also asking lots of questions and trying to lead discussion with rayn
Damdred: Seems like himself asking questions but he doing a over the top meta read on me is kind of unusual for him to do that on me o.o
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OWS: Lots of 1 liners and lacking much content from him to make a good read on him.
Slam: I finding it hard to read him this game but everyone told me he's hard to read correctly but his vote on Keirathi without much reason is striking me odd.
sicklucker: I can't read him correctly anymore on Day 1 after playing with him when he was scum on Day 1 I need to see his play in N1 and D2 to see if he's town or scum.
LM: Never posted.
must of been scum here to. wait he was town. Like I said in guardians that's not how you read ls Dismissing this case by saying "that's not how you read LightningStrike" seems to be extremely contradictory to Damdred bringing up the same case in this game. I realize that Damdred focused on the "big list post with no scum reads" part, but the conclusions that I was making from LightningStrike's filter (largely the post... read the filter from that game for yourself and you see that this post was one of the few things of substance in his filter) and the conclusions that Damdred made about LightningStrike this game are very very similar. In this game, Damdred tries to show that LightningStrike is mafia because his only real scum read, on me (Trfel), he backed off of (implying that no scum reads = mafia), which is how he says not to read LightningStrike above. Am I missing something? Damdred, explanation please?
The Damdred thing was strange but it been so long since me and him had played with each other (esp with my weak days 1 now) so that is possible he forgets stuff. I think when Damdred comes back and answers this he might be able to explain it. ATM on like page 6 of Palmar's filter there but he was a little bit more distanced from marv that game compared to Metal Mini lol....
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Hey guys I sorry I didn't post anything after my last post but it was because of real life(my mom taken me to lighting store and out to dinner although the food was good) but seeing Damdred die confirmed my read on him at least. Yes he did scumread HTS and DYH and both of them would have good motivation to shoot him. But otherwise this game turned out to be interesting hmmm.
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On December 04 2015 09:33 Trfel wrote:
Just realized, NocturneMage would definitely bus Half the Sky here.
So yeah, I really don't know about NocturneMage but for now I think that lynching Half the Sky is better.
Seems like your tunneled?
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On December 04 2015 09:34 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay. Happy to take you at your word re 2. Sorry for suggesting it. I really hope she gets well soon, please do pass on all of our regards...<3
Ya hopefully Dani gets well ASAP.
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On December 04 2015 09:38 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 09:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I sorry I didn't post anything after my last post but it was because of real life(my mom taken me to lighting store and out to dinner although the food was good) but seeing Damdred die confirmed my read on him at least. Yes he did scumread HTS and DYH and both of them would have good motivation to shoot him. But otherwise this game turned out to be interesting hmmm. *Facepalm*
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On December 04 2015 09:39 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 09:38 Fidei86 wrote:On December 04 2015 09:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I sorry I didn't post anything after my last post but it was because of real life(my mom taken me to lighting store and out to dinner although the food was good) but seeing Damdred die confirmed my read on him at least. Yes he did scumread HTS and DYH and both of them would have good motivation to shoot him. But otherwise this game turned out to be interesting hmmm. *Facepalm* What?
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