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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 14 2015 21:54 GMT
#3064
Yeah, for once we can agree........... It makes little sense. Could be some WIFOM / reaction test type of thing I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 15 2015 19:44 GMT
#3158
I really doubt it's clean. There's HTS in there and even in the off-chance HTS was town, one of Artanis/shockeyy would likely be scum in that case.

Better to reject it than to gamble for no real reason.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 15 2015 19:46 GMT
#3159
On November 16 2015 04:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sure feels scummy in the past few pages over here.

Sicklucker, just vote yes. Scum is Rels/Kita/Xata and maaaybe it was Rayn but probably not. None of those are on the mission here.


Do you really think scum kita would feel the need to push me out of the first team by HTS if I was scum with him...?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 15 2015 19:52 GMT
#3162
Pretty much. Well, I'm not as certain on rayn/Coag as I was, but assuming rayn is town, that should be the team (considering possible combinations).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 15 2015 19:56 GMT
#3164
On November 16 2015 04:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 04:46 Xatalos wrote:
On November 16 2015 04:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sure feels scummy in the past few pages over here.

Sicklucker, just vote yes. Scum is Rels/Kita/Xata and maaaybe it was Rayn but probably not. None of those are on the mission here.


Do you really think scum kita would feel the need to push me out of the first team by HTS if I was scum with him...?

Given the first team will rarely actually get the go ahead since the game only just started and HtS was not considered trustworthy, sure, I don't see much of an issue with it.


Meh... I still don't see that as a likely interaction if we really were scum. In any case, kita has voted down every failed team... That's pretty townie in itself. I'd like if you could look at HTS more critically from here. I'm not even really sure how you came to the Xata+kita team.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 15 2015 19:59 GMT
#3169
Wait, he really did.... Yeah. Somehow I confused the second mission with the first mission.

Then again, almost everyone voted YES there >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 16 2015 19:10 GMT
#3223
I wouldn't be surprised if that team included 2+ scum >.> Oh well, I'm a bit doubtful if we could win anymore anyway so it's not the worst thing if we lose here........ Not that I expected anything decent from SL anyway. If the game continues, next are kita and Vivax... Maybe Vivax could make some decent team in the end. Looks like kita thinks I'm scum atm so not super confident there....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 16 2015 19:14 GMT
#3225
Me too
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 15:44 GMT
#3280
I still don't quite see the appeal of a team with HTS in it. She's voted YES to every failure team systematically (even while not being a part of it herself..) and her push on me has been very... Draining. It's just an endless barrage of weak/false arguments.

If you're town, HTS, we really need to talk about your arguments post-game. Maybe it's possible you could just be an extremely tunneled and overly optimistic voter. But I still can't easily accept it.

If this passes (as it seems), I guess it's pretty much game over either way. If it's all town, it shouldn't be hard to find a fifth objectively clear townie afterwards. Or rather, scum should just concede. If there's scum (HTS....) in there, then GG, well played.

I'll probably just vote NO again anyway. Can't bring myself to vote YES for HTS.... But I guess it's not the worst thing even if it passes. Kind of focused on other things at this point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 17:35 GMT
#3282
I'm not in the team though, and still better than her record :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 18:39 GMT
#3287
No idea what you're talking about?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 18:44 GMT
#3288
I'd assume Artanis/HTS/shockeyy YES-vote again, and apparently SL and Vivax lean that way too. Not to mention there could be random other YES-votes too... Again. No idea at all what Coag is doing lol
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 18:45 GMT
#3289
Meh. I don't think there's much hope regardless.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 23:06 GMT
#3318
Nice! We might have just lost if SL went with his original team, since the mood seemed to be for voting YES to the next team up (and would be a bit hard to fail anything if it was all-town), but luckily you ended up including Artanis. Nice game overall, especially early on. Got a bit lazy after sabotaging though. Surprisingly demotivating to get all that suspicion after being on the fail team
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 23:06 GMT
#3319
On November 18 2015 08:06 Half the Sky wrote:
Artanis and I going at it on steam.....he's saying he's glad he got his revenge on me.

yeah Lex....fuck you too <3

<3


Revenge?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 23:09 GMT
#3326
On November 18 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote:
Well Xata and Rels were dead giveaways. Rels was so bad after mission 2 it was hilarious.


Still btw your reasons for scumreading me were so bad I could have understood if you based it on my horrible voting record or lack of motivation to do anything meaningful after the start, but you based it on things that were just objectively null (like misunderstandings about specific posts or my read progression on SL that was actually pretty slow, not quick like you said.... whereas rayn immediately scumread him hahaha)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 23:14 GMT
#3334
On November 18 2015 08:09 Half the Sky wrote:
Well Artanis was nominated for mafia player of the year from Imperial and there's a reason for that.

Friggin' protoss....


"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 23:14 GMT
#3336
On November 18 2015 08:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rels I think you bussed me a little too well before mission 3. I was pretty much a shared townread by anyone but you made that disappear
Oh well, it worked out in the end partially due to my gambit of voting yes for the all town team. Was actually planning on conceding if it actually went through since the rayn slot was still almost universally townread.

I felt that would increase HTS' townread on you. I remember being like "should I hard bus ?" and you made a post about me being potential scum and I was like "alright let's do it" =D
And yeah your gambit won the game at the end. Fucking well played.


Haha yeah, seemed like HTS went for anything that you didn't want so it wasn't a bad idea Worked elsewhere too hahaha
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 23:18 GMT
#3343
And yeah I took quite a risk by replicating my town meta like that. The only reason I did that really was because we had just talked about it with rayn on Skype, and I knew that if I didn't just post "stream of thought" style, he would be immediately suspicious of me. Also it was enough to sabotage the first team, I wouldn't have to keep it up all game. If I had just played standard, I doubt I would have ever gotten on a mission this game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 23:33 GMT
#3352
On November 18 2015 08:27 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2015 08:15 sicklucker wrote:
good news at least. Every ryan read was wrong. Literraly all of them

Except the first one, on Rels.
Yeah i know. I just can't townread people who make shit cases like "you are angry, therefore you are scum".
Unfortunately i can't remove stupid in this game by lynching them.

Also, not trying to be a dick but when you are on a mission with two people who have been really townie, it's a fair chance that townies think you are scum when the mission fails when you just do nothing at all..... Town credit lasts as long at it does, and Xatalos (while having said some weird shit) looked way more townie than you did.


no he didnt he claimed scum when he pushed himself and you as the next mission with 0 suspecion at all when mathematically your scum half the time


It doesn't really work that way As town I would have been slightly more suspicious of rayn (here I just didn't want to antagonize him since he usually ends up tunneling you if you do), but I would have always scumread you there regardless. Your YES vote when you scumread me so much before was just that suspect.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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