[T][M] Resistance V - Section 31 - Page 23

On November 13 2015 19:32 Rels wrote:

Man if the filter length argument was busted, I'm pretty sure that can be busted too. Maybe I'll get to it later. FOR SCIENCE

On November 13 2015 23:16 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm reading again from pages 40- to about 80 or whenever the first mission failed. That was a generic argument, you stated had no reason to townread sicklucker.

Then later on, this quote more or less supports my "let's see where everyone stands" theory.



Page 65 you're voting no, rayn is trying to still push the team though in the argument between him and you, although his pushing we might need another look at. (page 64-65)

In any case, to answer you Rels, a scum Rels would know that Xatalos is obviously going to vote yes on the team he puts through. You're waiting for SL, so that's basically the reason for you to vote no. What I'm trying to say is that you voting no doesn't necessarily vindicate you from being scum. Especially if everyone else's thoughts are making sense. Does this make sense now?

Actually the biggest problem overall is that you are almost overfocusing on the votes alone, and there are other layers to this game (namely the filters when I look at theirs and when I look at yours). Obviously we're "forced" to eliminate one of you and PoE it down to two townies. Duh, of course that's what scum are banking on here.

And there was a really good gem from rayn on Kita that I'll put in another post. It's decent food for discussion.

On November 13 2015 23:22 Half the Sky wrote:
An interesting conversation between Rels and Artanis early in the game.











So Rels ends with an "I don't know" which indicates it might not be a natural thought process, and mafia have to make something up here. Which lends this to being scum-indicative. He also fails to answer the question as to whether rayn did anything new or that he did anything new to change that read or not (Artanis' "he hadn't said anything new [for you to think] since your last post").

I think (???) rayn called him on this earlier but in any case this was a bit easier to follow.

On November 13 2015 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:
This is a pretty interesting call on Kita by rayn.







This (assuming rayn didn't misread) actually further lends support to the Xatalos/(whoever)/Kita scum team. Or in the infintessimally small chance that I'm wrong on Xatalos, that Kita is scum without using any meta.

On November 13 2015 23:33 Half the Sky wrote:
That last thing by rayn shows something potentially fabricated by Kita and even if I cannot stand the former's way of working with people, his nitpickiness does ferret out key things like this.

On November 13 2015 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
Ya I misread the artanis line. So ya you cant vote yes day 1 without claiming scum basically. so your vote does not really prove anything

On November 13 2015 23:37 sicklucker wrote:
er disregard my last post completely

On November 13 2015 23:34 Rels wrote:

I'm pretty sure rayn is talking about shockey in those quotes above, am I mistaken ?

On November 13 2015 23:40 sicklucker wrote:


well your reads are not really the point. scum will never go off there reads with the day one vote its too early. they may try to mold them but most people dont think that far ahead

On November 13 2015 02:01 Rels wrote:

I don't get it. Why would you write something that you take from a potential scumread of yours (and if I got it, your stronger potential third scum) if you don't understand it / don't believe it's true ?

On November 13 2015 23:42 sicklucker wrote:
Because voting yes day 1 did not line up with your reads...

On November 13 2015 23:46 sicklucker wrote:
Like i dont really remember or care what your day one reads were since your probably scum and im never putting you on a team anyway in 1000 years. All i remembered was you scum read me ryan or both at the end and had no excuse to vote yes. It was also kind of expected to pass anyway

On November 14 2015 01:03 JudgeJudy wrote:


Rels, I'm trying to follow your read between SL and Xata. On post number #2147, you state that my analysis on SL is good, inferring that you still have a mafia read on him. However, you list rayn and xata as the individuals on your "do not pick" list. Now you seem to be back on the antagonize SL side of things based on your "BUSTED" post. Could you explain your thought process a bit more?

On November 12 2015 02:26 Rels wrote:

Alright so either the game is won, or the team is infected. Let's go with the infiltrated theory since we won in the other case anyway. I know why SL voted NO, but I think Arta didn't scumread anyone before deadline. I need to check that.

On November 12 2015 20:44 Rels wrote:

Man you posted this exact post in the last game (Newbie XVI) where you were town; in that game, that post made me feel you were scum because you had this exact post in the previous game (Drams) where you were scum. I have the feeling you posted this just to show me "look I'm town, you made that mistake last game where you thought I was scum".
Who is everyone ? Only counting Arta HTS and you where I am. I'm catching up though, did anyone else scumread me ?

On November 12 2015 20:50 Rels wrote:

Yes I can. More than that; I think it's scum indicative IF the consensus if the team will pass whatever someone's vote is AND the vote doen't match up with the read previous to the vote. Now Arta wasn't as clear cut as I thought, but only because he was super non commital.
I really don't like how you didn't say much before the vote deadline when the consensus was the team will pass; and now you're like "WHAT GUYS WHY DID YOU ALL VOTE YES". If you were that sure the team would fail, you would have fought BEFORE the vote.

On November 12 2015 20:56 Rels wrote:

Before the fail mission: "yeah Rels is super right, for example in suggesting I was the fall guy in the first mission: he should be town".
After the fail mission: "oh Rels is too right to be town this game, he's not that good".
This is not an explanation.
Why are you townreading HTS ? For a dumbtell you thought couldn't come from scum right ? Anything else ?

On November 12 2015 21:03 Rels wrote:

'cause I thought rayn was town and you were more likely scum than Xata. After the vote your NO vote looked townie, but the way you're acting right now is super scummy.
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE:
The only difference waiting would have made would be switch Superbia for Shockey. ATM I thought the team was very likely to be HTS / Arta / you or Xata. So what you are accusing me of doing is not logical.

On November 12 2015 21:04 Rels wrote:

So "everyone" is 3 people ?

On November 14 2015 01:29 Vivax wrote:
I don't think I'll be pursuing further conversation with you, kita. I'm dead set on you being mafia, you are on me. I'm perfectly fine with just no-voting any future team with you in it, and so should you, this game isn't about lynching.

Just hope to catch you in another game where you're actually town.

HTS/me/Artanis/Coag ftw.
Swap me for Shockey, or Xata if needed.

Btw I hardly see people considering putting Arta on a team, which I really don't get. 1. He looks townish, 2. He's good at resistance.

On November 14 2015 01:36 Vivax wrote:


100%

On November 14 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote:
Oh you mean the mission issued by Xata.
We know for a fact that at least one spy voted no. I can't say more than that with my current knowledge. I know you somehow want me to accept you being on a team but that's not gonna happen by trying to let me spew some percentages.