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On November 14 2015 21:53 Xatalos wrote:Meh... If Coag was scum, things would get a lot more complicated and the scumteam could be almost anything. It would just mean that SL would be likely town and Rels/kita/Vivax would have much reduced chances of being scum (again, since rayn/Coag put them on his own team willingly - just why if there was scum included?). It would be quite likely that there would be 2 scum among HTS/Artanis/shockeyy then. Actually, I guess it would kind of fit better than SL+HTS+?. Meh... If rayn was scum all along, he really managed to fool me. And if we assume HTS would be town (which I really just refuse to believe) and SL scum, then Coag would be very likely town and the scum would probably be Rels/kita + Artanis/Shockeyy. Which I guess isn't impossible either, but what's impossible is HTS being town to begin with....... So all in all, I guess Coag being scum over SL makes more sense considering potential scumteams / vote records...... But just based on play, SL seems quite a bit more likely scum. HTS being town and SL being scum makes some amount of sense, but less so than the previous world, and what makes least sense of all is HTS possibly being town :/ Meh.... I still think it's very possible they're just both scum (SL/HTS). The only non-sensible part is Rels voting NO last time, but since he did the same to a previous fail team, I guess it's not impossible to happen again now. Other than Rels, it's not very likely for anyone else (except maybe Vivax) to be with SL/HTS. It would make some sense considering that HTS has otherwise scumread Rels, but townread Rels when Rels was nominated on a team... Much like SL townread me only when he needed to so that the mission including him would be accepted. I guess it's still quite plausible after all, considering that Rels has provably voted NO to a failing team before as well. So SL/HTS/Rels (or *maybe* Coag + probably 2 out of HTS/Artanis/shockeyy) for post game cred 
do you not agree that my only possible scum team combination is hts/art/sl? do you think hts and art are a team?
Theres alot of reason I dont think they are. The main one is because hts was pushing art on the team we submited. If hts is scum she would not try to look scummy because she only needs one scum to be on that team (her) theres no scum motive for hts scum to make artanis look better if there partners since she is basicly granted to be on any mission team.
Hts is also trying to convince me in thread to think art is town. thats a really pointless thing for hts to post if the three of us are the scum team
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anyway xata if your town you have the most info knowing me/shockey/vivax are confirmed town. so ill read your posts here and see if ill read your posts ever again this game
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On November 14 2015 20:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh and I'm quite amused that Kita's PoE basically left him with having to scumread himself now that Vivax is basically confirmed town.
ya that should be interesting
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On November 14 2015 21:08 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 21:02 Vivax wrote:
Xata, who was the spy on the mission you issued? SL probably. I agree that rayn/Coag has the worst mission/vote record (besides HTS), but other things still point more to him being town (his balanced attitude to the game as opposed to his very aggressive/agenda-driven attitude as scum in VS, and his lack of care for getting modkilled etc.). SL also has things against him like first scumreading me, then suddenly townreading me when I put him on the mission with me (meaning he could easily sabotage the mission just by townreading me at that moment).
ya you cant think this still if your town
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On November 14 2015 21:24 Vivax wrote:
You don't have to do anything. We send the same team which is a confirmed town team cause all people from mission 2 no-voted it. Just that this time I vote yes.
Kita is mafia.
Xata is mafia.
Last mafia is either Coag or Rels.
Send anyone else, win the game.
Concede plz.
thats a good point but i would expect coag to no vote that if hes town
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On November 14 2015 21:33 Xatalos wrote:
Let's see...
1) There's at least 1 scum between Coag/SL
2) There's at least 1 scum within Coag/Rels/kita/Vivax
3) There's at most 1 scum within HTS/Artanis/shockeyy (unless Coag is scum)
Those are clear facts... Now it gets a bit more tricky, but hold on.
4) HTS and kita probably aren't scum together (because HTS put kita as a preference to her own team - just why if they were both scum? - makes more sense if kita was the one to be blamed afterwards)
5) SL and Coag probably aren't scum together (again, just why would rayn/Coag endorse SL to the team then?)
Hmmm... The most sensible combinations seem to be:
SL/HTS/Rels
SL/HTS/Vivax
Other combinations don't make too much sense.
But then again, Rels voted NO to the team just now, and I doubt Vivax is scum atm.
I guess I *could* be wrong on one of HTS or SL.
I'll need to think about this....
the third point is only clear if i am scum. its does not count if coag is scum. I am confirmed town so...
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xata if your town somehow the scum team is coag/art/hts or? probably. you should push thay angle if your scum or town because its the only believing team outside of you at this point
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On November 14 2015 23:13 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 23:12 sicklucker wrote:On November 14 2015 21:08 Xatalos wrote:On November 14 2015 21:02 Vivax wrote:
Xata, who was the spy on the mission you issued? SL probably. I agree that rayn/Coag has the worst mission/vote record (besides HTS), but other things still point more to him being town (his balanced attitude to the game as opposed to his very aggressive/agenda-driven attitude as scum in VS, and his lack of care for getting modkilled etc.). SL also has things against him like first scumreading me, then suddenly townreading me when I put him on the mission with me (meaning he could easily sabotage the mission just by townreading me at that moment). ya you cant think this still if your town Explain
RELS /SUPER/YOU/VIVAX/RYAN
what do they have in common xata?
+ Show Spoiler +they all voted no on two teams that I was on and can not be on a scum team with me
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On November 14 2015 22:30 Xatalos wrote:
So I guess considering all that, my optimal team would be something like me+Vivax+kita+...shockeyy/Artanis?
Seems like there would be a good chance of that being clean. Not really sure about the last two options though, neither of them have great vote records (or really play for that matter).... It's just PoE.
But kita+Vivax have pretty much perfect vote records so there's that... Vivax also hasn't really looked scummy at any point IMO
if shockey was mafia the last team would have voted yes. rels/you/kita all only scum read me on that team. all they had to do was town read me which would have been easy with the effort I put into the game and wolla
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anyway xata if were in some bizzare world where its htx/art/ryan you just lost us the game by not town reading me here. Like I cant work with you now. So nothings going to change
Im paranoid enough to be talking to you but your not really helping push that paranoia
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On November 14 2015 23:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Riddle me this, if there were two spies on the second mission where did me and Rels coordinate how to avoid the double sabotage?
We chose to pass it, so there had to be some secret communication to avoid essentially loosing the game automatically, yet there was only one sabotage.
It's very rare for a scum team to upvote a double spy mission because of this reason.
thats a somewhat valid point but a very small point. you guys could have been impateint and happy with the way the game is going. When I play scum the faster I win the better because its hard to fake being town for a long period of time.
Kita what are your current reads after the last vote?
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it shouldnt be. you and hts need to fight it out if your town because shes always scum. If your town then your only hope to win the game is to fight her.
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can you qoute such things
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xat in those quotes oyu brought up hts is acualy calling me town something like oculums razor says sl is town. So like your mistaked i think
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On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey
hum this is terrible why not me? im still worried about worlds with hts and artanis especially and I didnt think I would have to make a decision so soon. Cant you just do me and we have 3 more days to decide? im going ot be on the mission 4/5 if this passes anyway so you may as well put me in now...
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On November 15 2015 01:52 Rels wrote:Yo folks. Sry I don't have time to play due to this fucking attack. My take on the vote: Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 09:11 Tictock wrote:
Day 3
ShoCkeyy's Nomination (Shockey, Vivax, Half the Sky, sicklucker)
Vote Result
Half the Sky - YES
Xatalos - NO
Artanis[Xp] - YES
Coagulation - NO
ShoCkeyy - YES
Rels - NO
sicklucker - YES
kitaman27 - NO
Vivax - NO
MISSION IS REJECTED
Day 3
Rels's Nomination Phase
Phase will end in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 14 November 2015.
This was a bit rushed as I'm posting via mobile, will fix it up later. Not all votes were sent to me so if there was a mistake please PM myself or Fidei and we will get it fixed asap.
Apologies for the delay Vivax could have voted YES to a team containing himself. Hell, he said he would vote YES but didn't for some reason. I think that makes him confirmed town. Vivax, name a team and I'll probably nominate it when I come back tonight.I didn't read anything from today so this might be stupid but whatever. Anyway I'm with my family so see you later.
vivax can you just tell him to put up the same team? explain to him how vote logic makes it town like 99% of the time
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On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey
im pretty sure im vivax's strongest townread now and its very logical. Do you live in paris?
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On November 15 2015 06:18 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 04:08 Rels wrote:On November 15 2015 01:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Well it should be obvious to everyone else, but just in case, purposely leaving myself off, I would propose the following teams if I was leader.
Team of 4: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey (Shockey is switchable for Coag depending on how people feel)
Team of 5: Artanis/Vivax/sicklucker/Shockey/Coagulation
I strongly feel that rayn was town, but if people have had doubts on him respective of his voting record, I am confident in the other four.
I have nothing to hide. Vivax is not here and this is the last time I'm here before getting insanely drunk so let's go with that. No SL though. ##Nominate Artanis/Vivax/HTS/Shockey This goes so far against Rel's reads all game long that it seems like he wants a re-do on the previous team or something.
well if rels is mafia (he probably ) then hes not gonna go. well you got me guys! hes gonna try to position himself to get on the 5th mission
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we should all vote no to this and see who votes yes. ill put up pretty much the same team next anyway. more info the better and artanis can still be scum. Dont say you agree if you agree ill vote no
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more of art/rels because rels was willing to include him even tho he was not in the original team yesterday. does that team make anysense?
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