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Could actually look at how many, when I got home.
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On November 09 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So like, Xatalos is stubbornly trying to push a team that has both me and him in it, when at least half of the people in the game think one of us might be scum.
HtS doesn't even read the game (or apparently any game she has ever played) so i don't see any reason i should pay any attention to what she posts.
Shockeyy hasn't made a single logical conslusion in this game, and Artanis now for some reason thinks Xatalos is mafia instead of sicklucker because of what Shockeyy says.
sicklucker doesn't wanna say yes to any team he doesn't pick himself, doesn't scumhunt and just hides behind his heuristic.
Superbia gave up a long time ago on this game.
So yeah, i am just gonna vote yes to any team that gets picked and/or wait for SL to present his team and if the team is all town we win -- or if the team fails i am gonna blame the dude who picked the team. Because that's the correct play, right sicklucker?
Basically this game cannot possibly go anywhere so i don't really see any reason why i should give any fucks rn.
Tbh I think this nomination is probably the only one where we have a chance anymore.... But I guess quite a few scumread you now so I can understand why it seems difficult. Then should we just try voting for a team or something?
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On November 09 2015 22:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 21:57 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.
##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy 10/10 team, will pass. On November 09 2015 21:30 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 20:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2015 19:01 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 16:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2015 09:01 Xatalos wrote:
I guess Superbia/Rels/kita look good for the NO votes at least. It's decently likely that the group is "pure" just based on that. Superbia hasn't really looked bad regardless so it's kind of likely he's town. kita and Rels... Are more questionable for me. I think both of them could have well done what they've done here as scum... It's mostly the NO votes that gives them credit IMO
Meanwhile Artanis does indeed suffer from the YES vote, much like HTS, especially because they weren't on the mission team themselves (I think it's more natural to vote YES if you're included on the mission than if not...). Just considering that, it might actually not be the best idea to include either of them on the next mission.... You think Superbia looks the best between Superbia/Kita/Rels? He's actually the one I'm questioning the most from my townreads. He has looked pretty good at times, but the inactivity is worrying. Also, given how you've butted heads with him a lot, where does the strong townread come from? I know you read him as town earlier, but not strongly and he hasn't really done much since other than vote no. On November 09 2015 11:17 kitaman27 wrote:On November 09 2015 08:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So yeah, I suggested a team I didn't actually want to see who was going to vote yes on it, gauge responses and all that. I figure after the first mission fails we want to gather some more information anyway. Like Rayn said, there'd be limited information on submitting a team with me/him/Superbia/Kitaman as someone like sicklucker would have an excuse to vote no without really backing it up. Now, we get to hear justifications for things. If you were to nominate a team you did indeed want to pass, what would it have been? Honestly there's no team I'm confident in that will pass at the moment. Need more time. The team I'd consider having the highest chance of success would be me/Rayn/Kita/one of Xata and Superbia. Well, voting NO to the failed mission is already pretty good in itself. I haven't ever thought of him as scummy after the very start either, unlike the other two, so I'd say he's probably the best pick out of the three... The only worrying part about him is his lurking, I agree. Do you have any evaluations from how the vote went down? Which vote? The one we just had that failed. I'm not quite sure what else it could've possibly been? Oh, I thought you perhaps meant the failed mission, not the recent nomination. I don't think there's much to it. It was going to be down voted anyways so scum could have done pretty much whatever they wanted? Surely there's still something they want to show with their votes though? Do you think that the votes have no meaning whatsoever?
I think the team kind of lost its legitimacy when you put your own scumread in it?  So since even you were apparently going to down vote it, I don't think it could have really been made to pass...... rayn seems to have given up and just votes YES on anything, SL votes NO until he gets to pick the team, shockeyy's vote makes no sense.... Meh. Did you get something interesting out of it?
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On November 09 2015 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 22:00 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So like, Xatalos is stubbornly trying to push a team that has both me and him in it, when at least half of the people in the game think one of us might be scum.
HtS doesn't even read the game (or apparently any game she has ever played) so i don't see any reason i should pay any attention to what she posts.
Shockeyy hasn't made a single logical conslusion in this game, and Artanis now for some reason thinks Xatalos is mafia instead of sicklucker because of what Shockeyy says.
sicklucker doesn't wanna say yes to any team he doesn't pick himself, doesn't scumhunt and just hides behind his heuristic.
Superbia gave up a long time ago on this game.
So yeah, i am just gonna vote yes to any team that gets picked and/or wait for SL to present his team and if the team is all town we win -- or if the team fails i am gonna blame the dude who picked the team. Because that's the correct play, right sicklucker?
Basically this game cannot possibly go anywhere so i don't really see any reason why i should give any fucks rn. Tbh I think this nomination is probably the only one where we have a chance anymore.... But I guess quite a few scumread you now so I can understand why it seems difficult. Then should we just try voting for a team or something? sure. what team do you want?
I guess something like me+you+Superbia.... And.... One of Artanis/Kita/Rels, not sure which would be best yet. But I'm not sure if that would have high chances of succeeding.... It's hard. Maybe if people could somehow consolidate on a reasonable team that could gain the majority..
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Any ideas for how to make that happen :/
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Meh. If someone could make a read chart or something, then maybe we could find a decent majority team...
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I guess Kita made one a while back. I'll go check.
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On November 09 2015 22:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 22:06 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 22:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2015 21:57 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.
##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy 10/10 team, will pass. On November 09 2015 21:30 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 20:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2015 19:01 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 16:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2015 09:01 Xatalos wrote:
I guess Superbia/Rels/kita look good for the NO votes at least. It's decently likely that the group is "pure" just based on that. Superbia hasn't really looked bad regardless so it's kind of likely he's town. kita and Rels... Are more questionable for me. I think both of them could have well done what they've done here as scum... It's mostly the NO votes that gives them credit IMO
Meanwhile Artanis does indeed suffer from the YES vote, much like HTS, especially because they weren't on the mission team themselves (I think it's more natural to vote YES if you're included on the mission than if not...). Just considering that, it might actually not be the best idea to include either of them on the next mission.... You think Superbia looks the best between Superbia/Kita/Rels? He's actually the one I'm questioning the most from my townreads. He has looked pretty good at times, but the inactivity is worrying. Also, given how you've butted heads with him a lot, where does the strong townread come from? I know you read him as town earlier, but not strongly and he hasn't really done much since other than vote no. On November 09 2015 11:17 kitaman27 wrote:
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If you were to nominate a team you did indeed want to pass, what would it have been?
Honestly there's no team I'm confident in that will pass at the moment. Need more time. The team I'd consider having the highest chance of success would be me/Rayn/Kita/one of Xata and Superbia. Well, voting NO to the failed mission is already pretty good in itself. I haven't ever thought of him as scummy after the very start either, unlike the other two, so I'd say he's probably the best pick out of the three... The only worrying part about him is his lurking, I agree. Do you have any evaluations from how the vote went down? Which vote? The one we just had that failed. I'm not quite sure what else it could've possibly been? Oh, I thought you perhaps meant the failed mission, not the recent nomination. I don't think there's much to it. It was going to be down voted anyways so scum could have done pretty much whatever they wanted? Surely there's still something they want to show with their votes though? Do you think that the votes have no meaning whatsoever? I think the team kind of lost its legitimacy when you put your own scumread in it? So since even you were apparently going to down vote it, I don't think it could have really been made to pass...... rayn seems to have given up and just votes YES on anything, SL votes NO until he gets to pick the team, shockeyy's vote makes no sense.... Meh. Did you get something interesting out of it? Eh, I don't think I was super clear that I was going to downvote it? Rels didn't seem to understand my intention behind it at least. And like I said, I do think that it says something about SL.
Well hard to think you would vote YES while your scumread was in it?
The SL thing.... I guess so.
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Actually the previous suggestion seems pretty close to a universal townread list.... But it wasn't even close to getting approved either. Meh. I guess this town has some serious trust issues. Not that I'm free of them myself...
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Question to everyone:
What would need to have changed in the previous suggestion for it to have been YES voted by you?
(As for me: preferably Kita/Rels replaced by me/rayn)
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Rayn this should be Kita's reads....
As for me I'd say that I'm leaning on SL being the scum from mission two, with Xata being the secondary suspect if SL is town. I'm still leaning mafia on Shockyy and the remaining mafia would be in a pool of HTS/super/Artanis.
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On November 09 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 22:28 Xatalos wrote:
Question to everyone:
What would need to have changed in the previous suggestion for it to have been YES voted by you?
(As for me: preferably Kita/Rels replaced by me/rayn) The team I'd be most comfortable with was what I suggested but with rayn instead of rels. I figured it wasn't going to pass though, and there's still doubts in me about Super, which is why I did what I did.
K... Who would you replace super with?
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So I guess Kita's suggestion then would be logically Kita+rayn+Rels+????
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I'm not really even sure what you're saying about SL there?
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You lost me Artanis >.>
And HTS.... There's just no basis for your push on me. You say I "TMI"d rayn when the team failed, but if you didn't miss it, I townread him pretty heavily from like the latter part of the first cycle already. Why would I drop the townread over SL after the failure? Granted, rayn is a bit more likely scum now, but I still don't think that's the case, and SL has looked worse after the failure IMO. By that same logic, rayn also still townreads me........
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You even say rayn is "confidently town" yourself............
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On November 09 2015 23:28 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 23:23 Xatalos wrote:
You lost me Artanis >.>
And HTS.... There's just no basis for your push on me. You say I "TMI"d rayn when the team failed, but if you didn't miss it, I townread him pretty heavily from like the latter part of the first cycle already. Why would I drop the townread over SL after the failure? Granted, rayn is a bit more likely scum now, but I still don't think that's the case, and SL has looked worse after the failure IMO. By that same logic, rayn also still townreads me........ Mission 1 failed. It was explicitly stated there was one sabotage by the moderator. There HAS to be ( (at least, but most likely) one scum between you/rayn/SL. If you are town, and you know you are town, and especially on the back of a heavy townread on rayn, the bolded doesn't make any sense >_<
Is rayn scum too then for not dropping his townread on me?
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On November 09 2015 23:33 Half the Sky wrote:
What you are saying right now doesn't make any sense. rayn had his reasoning for his reads, he had always townread you and scumread sicklucker - but your reasoning isn't flowing at all.
.......wtf
1) I heavily townread rayn, somewhat townread SL
2) rayn heavily townreads me, somewhat townreads SL
3) mission fails
4) we both still townread each other, scumread SL
5) HTS says Xata is sure scum, rayn is sure town for these events
6) ?????????????????????!?!!!!!!
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If HTS is town then I don't even know what to do anymore........
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Oh well.... Let's see what people say. Maybe that could pass.
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