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If one of them is wrong, then it should be from Superbia/Rels/kita.
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rayn, could you answer the question in my bigger post?
SL, my earlier questions?
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On November 08 2015 01:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 01:07 Xatalos wrote:
rayn, could you answer the question in my bigger post?
SL, my earlier questions? Why does it matter if rayn answers your question or not? You both have constantly been town reading each other since the start of the game.
It matters for the choices of the next team members.
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On November 08 2015 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 00:51 Xatalos wrote:
rayn, would be nice if you explained what's the logic behind excluding us two? Just so that the mission is more likely to be voted YES? I don't think it makes sense to make people vote YES at the expense of more likely including scum :/ We still have several leader cycles after all, and you're even next in order yourself.
You mean this? Because i can't be 100% sure of which of you two is mafia. If you think Shockeyy/HtS/SL is the scumteam why are you not okay with the current team? Like neither of you is okay with the current team so i think the team is all town. 
Just because I'm less than 90% certain those three are town whereas I'm 100% certain I'm town and 90% certain you're town 
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On November 08 2015 01:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 01:14 Xatalos wrote:On November 08 2015 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 08 2015 00:51 Xatalos wrote:
rayn, would be nice if you explained what's the logic behind excluding us two? Just so that the mission is more likely to be voted YES? I don't think it makes sense to make people vote YES at the expense of more likely including scum :/ We still have several leader cycles after all, and you're even next in order yourself.
You mean this? Because i can't be 100% sure of which of you two is mafia. If you think Shockeyy/HtS/SL is the scumteam why are you not okay with the current team? Like neither of you is okay with the current team so i think the team is all town. Just because I'm less than 90% certain those three are town whereas I'm 100% certain I'm town and 90% certain you're town idc. If you think the scumteam is what you say it is it doesn't make much sense for you to think the team is not all town.
I guess it's not the worst team overall. I'm just not completely sure SL/shockeyy/HTS are all scum. Whereas I'm 100% sure I'm town myself, and pretty sure you are as well. And if we fail this mission, I think it's pretty much over?
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Why does SL always disappear whenever he has to answer for something :/
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On November 08 2015 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 01:19 Xatalos wrote:
And if we fail this mission, I think it's pretty much over? not even close.
You think we can easily nominate 3 all-town missions in a row afterwards?
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On November 07 2015 22:28 Half the Sky wrote:Actually I missed this quote about Xatalos' read on you SL. Show nested quote +On November 07 2015 08:53 Xatalos wrote:I guess SL's position on me and the missions is somewhat unnatural. He first scumreads me for not 100% townreading him at first... But he'd still want to go on a mission during my leadership, and even include me on the second mission if the first mission passed. On November 04 2015 20:35 sicklucker wrote:
Its also not me being biased the chart says were the top 3 towns more or less as no one scum reads us. I know you town read artanis so from your pov if your town submitting that team makes sense.
No one understands the logic of putting yourself in the team better then me but you also need that team to pass and its only attempt 2 of 5 so people are still very picky like me. Also if the said mission passes it would make a likely town circle of 4 people rather then 3 im not totally sure the mechanics but that seems like a good spot to be in. Not really sure what his read on me was at this point? Still scum? Null? It kind of feels like it's a town lean or something already. And then when he's included with me and rayn, I'm very likely town...? On November 05 2015 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
oh i liked the xatalos filter thing. i think we should pass this its very likely 3 towns from my pov Would be very curious to hear about this read progression on me. Ugh, the sad part here is that I could see both of you playing suboptimally here too. I don't think Xata should have had the reads he did on rayn, post-failure, the first two quotes he posted are IMO NAI, the second quote especially for anyone of either alignment who knows the game well can talk about the scum-packing strategy. (Kita did as well and I know I disregarded that as NAI and was townreading him on other things.) The problem here is that when I read your filter, I can actually understand your progression on Xatalos. That actually makes Xatalos worse to me and thus of the three, the most likely scum.
If you understand it, could you explain it for SL btw?
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On November 08 2015 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 01:24 Xatalos wrote:On November 08 2015 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 08 2015 01:19 Xatalos wrote:
And if we fail this mission, I think it's pretty much over? not even close. You think we can easily nominate 3 all-town missions in a row afterwards? no but it doesnt get much harder even if this mission fails.
I guess so... But it's still harder to be one step away from defeat than two.
Will have to go soon. Anything before I go?
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Well, see you before deadline hopefully. Now AFK for a while.
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Wait what >.> I hope you'll look at my earlier big post btw. afkz now.....
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On November 08 2015 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 01:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 08 2015 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 08 2015 01:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 08 2015 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis why do you want to change the team if you think i am town? Because I think Rels is mafia and you are town. If Rels is mafia why do both of SL and Xatalos say they will vote no? To look better and/or because they scumread Rels of course. Why do they not change their read on Rels based on what i said? Actually Xatalos doesn't even scumread Rels... Or like, he has three other people who are "more likely to be mafia than Rels", yet he STILL wants to downvote the team.
Basically I'm a bit more cautious now that one mission failed already.
It could also be useful to see one or two vote behaviors before sending in the next team. Overall, I'm just less inclined to vote YES immediately.
I guess it's a good thing that you were included on the current mission. I'm still leaning on NO atm since I'm not really confident on kita/Superbia (their main advantage being just voting NO last time). More time should be a good thing as well as seeing how votes go from here. More confident on you than Artanis as well... So maybe your leader phase would have better chances that way.
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Holy Rels walls of text....
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Hm Rels... So your suggested most likely scumteam is HTS/Artanis/SL? How do you townread shockeyy over all of them?
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So if I got this right, kita thinks SL was scum out of the last mission and Superbia thinks it's rayn. At least that's where they left off.
Would like to hear overall reads from you both too. Especially kita has been a bit vague with his reads
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On November 08 2015 06:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 06:28 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Rels... So your suggested most likely scumteam is HTS/Artanis/SL? How do you townread shockeyy over all of them? Show nested quote +On November 06 2015 21:38 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 21:25 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 21:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 21:22 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 21:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 21:18 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 21:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 20:56 Rels wrote:
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You're a little shit =D ![[image loading]](http://qc.createdebate.com/img/blog_article_images/disagreement-hierarchy.jpg) Thanks for playing! Pretty cool (= I'm picturing you with your folder of "funny and town-looking images", waiting for the perfect opportunity to post one Is that an indirect way of calling me mafia? No. Did you feel attacked by that post ? The way you phrased it made me think you were scumreading me, yes. Generally people don't feel the need to specify "town-looking images" when they're talking about people they are in fact townreading. It's pretty obvious it was a joke though. Given the fact that you've been dancing around my alignment for a while now I didn't find it a very obvious joke, but very well. Talk to me about Shockeyy. You seem to be one of the only people townreading him. First, his play makes no sense for scum. His scumreads are the two most townread people this game, and he's keeping them since the beginning of the game; and I think he might be right on rayn. This has transformed him into someone whom nobody listens to and nobody picks in their team. If that guy is mafia, he's playing to lose the game. Second, he has this idea of solving the game that guides his posts and votes; trapping one scum with two townies so we can ignore that guy forever. That's obviously not a great idea, since scum doesn't really care about being ignored if he has made a mission failed; but the fact that he is believing it so hard makes him town in my eyes, even though the idea itself is bad. + he's part of the NO crew.
I'll admit that the NO vote makes him townier, but pushing a bad idea? >.> He seems generally pretty clueless so I don't think him pushing me/rayn makes him town especially if we're both town.. That just gives an easy excuse to vote against an all-town team if needed?
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On November 08 2015 06:44 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2015 06:40 Xatalos wrote:On November 08 2015 06:34 Rels wrote:On November 08 2015 06:28 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Rels... So your suggested most likely scumteam is HTS/Artanis/SL? How do you townread shockeyy over all of them? On November 06 2015 21:38 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 21:25 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 21:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 21:22 Rels wrote:On November 06 2015 21:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2015 21:18 Rels wrote:
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Pretty cool (=
I'm picturing you with your folder of "funny and town-looking images", waiting for the perfect opportunity to post one Is that an indirect way of calling me mafia? No. Did you feel attacked by that post ? The way you phrased it made me think you were scumreading me, yes. Generally people don't feel the need to specify "town-looking images" when they're talking about people they are in fact townreading. It's pretty obvious it was a joke though. Given the fact that you've been dancing around my alignment for a while now I didn't find it a very obvious joke, but very well. Talk to me about Shockeyy. You seem to be one of the only people townreading him. First, his play makes no sense for scum. His scumreads are the two most townread people this game, and he's keeping them since the beginning of the game; and I think he might be right on rayn. This has transformed him into someone whom nobody listens to and nobody picks in their team. If that guy is mafia, he's playing to lose the game. Second, he has this idea of solving the game that guides his posts and votes; trapping one scum with two townies so we can ignore that guy forever. That's obviously not a great idea, since scum doesn't really care about being ignored if he has made a mission failed; but the fact that he is believing it so hard makes him town in my eyes, even though the idea itself is bad. + he's part of the NO crew. I'll admit that the NO vote makes him townier, but pushing a bad idea? >.> He seems generally pretty clueless so I don't think him pushing me/rayn makes him town especially if we're both town.. That just gives an easy excuse to vote against an all-town team if needed? Wow you're the third person I have this discussion with: Arta, rayn, now you. Coincidence ? I think his play makes him super unlikely to be part of any team, so it's suicidal => no scum motivation to play like that. I'm like super tired of talking about shockey actually, it's not like he's part of the submited team. What do you think of Arta scumreading me but nominating me in his team ?
Waaait... I somehow thought the team was still rayn instead of you >.>
This is worse...... Nothing against you personally, I just think rayn is more likely town than you.
It's a bit hard to understand, I agree. Even if you weren't like one of his highest scumreads, he should have still picked rayn there IMO.
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"maybe if I can get a wagon rolling on rayn he'll be really mad and give up"
Well played
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Oops wrong thread hahahahaha
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So we wait...
Semi-confused by that post from Artanis that Rels quoted, but I guess he'll explain it afterwards.
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