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On November 06 2015 00:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: Rels, has rayn and xata ever poke each other before coming to the conclusion they were both town? I don't recall them doing so. Not much? I think I had some small grievance him at the start, but it wasn't really anything major. | ||
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On November 06 2015 01:18 Rels wrote: No. You are either wrong or scum. You cannot think my scum game is PUSHING THREAD LEADERS. So if you're town, go reread my scum games and come back admitting you've made a mistake. If you're scum, feel free to do whatever. I don't think pushing leaders is that hard to do as scum anyway... Even if you don't usually do it, there's nothing inherently stopping you from doing that here... So I kind of fail to see how a disagreement over your meta makes him scum or even suspicious? | ||
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On November 06 2015 01:33 JudgeJudy wrote: When was there ever a HTS/Xata/Kita line up for you to vote for? I'm confused what you are referencing here. Maybe a typo? I don't think that team was ever even talked about. | ||
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On November 06 2015 01:49 kitaman27 wrote: So rayn, I'm trying to understand your read on SL. Your two main points initially were 1) That he would bus as a spy. + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2015 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: SL would bus (lol).  Basically as scum you want to look as town as possible and bussing is definitely not out of question, since you only need one scum onto a mission. If you, from the beginning, cut your own chances of getting to missions as scum, you basically just lose the game.And i still think SL would just bus. On November 04 2015 13:08 sicklucker wrote: unless someone can come up with evidence that shockey knew votes would be revealed he should never ever ever be on a mission One of the first things he does was explain that your strongest mafia read shockeyy should never ever be on a mission. 2) That he doesn't have a scum agenda. + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2015 19:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: It basically has to do with me not seeing him playing towards anything.. ugh... idk it is hard to explain, i don't see him having scum agenda, or anything like that behind his posting. Same basically goes to sicklucker. On November 05 2015 09:10 sicklucker wrote: like me not voting for ANY TEAM that does not include me On November 05 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote: like i would never put up a team that didnt include me On November 04 2015 19:44 sicklucker wrote: gonna veto any xatalos unless its like me and rayn On November 05 2015 08:09 sicklucker wrote: super likely mafia. Im positive he has no reason to scum read me On November 05 2015 09:11 sicklucker wrote: im in hero pick phrase. im cooler with xata now. Essentially his strategy this game is to veto any team that doesn't include himself, attack the players that suspect him, unless his mafia read actually nominates him, then he is fine with passing the team. Why isn't this a mafia agenda? The explanation that scummy people think SL is spy, therefore he is town doesn't mean a lot considering in the first quote you say how busing isn't out of the question because you only need one spy. Doesn't the reasoning you gave point to the opposite conclusion? Dunno about that bus thing, but isn't it a quite restrictive scum strategy to only approve teams that you're a part of? Seemed more like paranoid than pushing any specific agenda to me. As scum, you'd want to be flexible so that you can vote for whatever you need to vote. | ||
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On November 06 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like you went from calling him basically confirmed town to very suspicious in 3 hours without anything seemingly triggering you. Maybe a justification to vote no or something...? Kind of hard to follow his reads when they jump around so fast... Especially without any events in the thread causing the changes really :/ Quite wary about including him in a team at this point, I guess. | ||
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On November 06 2015 03:42 kitaman27 wrote: Well it's the strategy I used as spy in Resistance 2. Not saying it's a good strategy or anything, but it was exactly the policy I pushed myself. Lol  Well I guess I can see why you'd say that then... But I don't think it's a very good scum plan, and not at all specifically scum-aligned... | ||
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On November 06 2015 03:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He's already voiced suspicion on SL though, I don't think that'd be necessary. It's weird. Yeah... Dunno. Kind of hard to see the motivation. | ||
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On November 06 2015 08:00 Tictock wrote: Day 1 Xatalos Nomination (Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker) Vote Result Half the Sky - YES Xatalos - YES Artanis[Xp] - YES raynpelikoneet - YES ShoCkeyy - NO Rels - NO sicklucker - YES kitaman27 - NO Superbia - NO MISSION IS APPROVED Xatalos, raynpelikoneet, and sicklucker will be embarking on Mission 1 Mission will be completed in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 6 November 2015. Day 2 Artanis[Xp]'s Nomination Phase Phase will end in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 6 November 2015. Anyways, pretty interesting votes. It was this close so seems pretty likely that scum voted against it... Maybe even all of them? Probably at least 2. shockeyy, why did you vote NO even though last time you said that you wanted a suspicious team to pass so that they would gain more suspicion by failure? Wouldn't this be the dream situation to vote YES in your head when you think me/rayn are the main suspects? | ||
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On November 06 2015 08:30 Fidei86 wrote: Apologies, host miscommunication. Xalatos, Rayn and sicklucker have until next dawn to submit actions. Next nomination phase will not start until end of action phase. In other words, Artanis has 24 hrs from tomorrow at 2300 to submit team for mission 2. Thought so... | ||
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(of course everything would need to be reconsidered if the mission failed, but my head hurts just thinking about what the votes would mean then... so most likely it's a full town team anyway) | ||
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On November 03 2015 03:15 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'm pretty much going to reject the xata/rayn combo wombo. I'd rather see the first team mentioned - hts,super,xata go through. At least if a sabotage happens, we definitely have a good chance of finding the mafia until the next mission. Hmmm... I guess there is an explanation at least.... Of some sort... | ||
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On November 06 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote: Ah got it James. <3 I'd say at least 2. I think maayyyybe one was smart enough to suck it up and pass? Could be SL for all we know. And that's a really good question to Shockey, Xata. How would it make sense for only scum SL to pass and for the others to reject? Wouldn't they want him on the mission? | ||
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On November 06 2015 08:48 Xatalos wrote: Hmmm... I guess there is an explanation at least.... Of some sort... So if I got this right... shockeyy would only vote for missions where there's one of me/rayn, but not both......? shockeyy? | ||
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On November 06 2015 08:56 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yes, but if you used your brain, you would understand why... If both of you are on a mission together and one mission gets sabotaged, then it's hard to differentiate wether or not you both sabotaged it. If you go on solo missions, rather than together, it makes it easier to see if you or rayn are mafia. Obviously you both got you wanted and are now butt buddies on the same team. LOL I mean, I can kind of understand the principle... But where does this boundless confidence that we're scum come from? Just from the fact that we've defended each other? Wouldn't scum instead want to avoid direct "teaming up" or anything like that? | ||
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On November 06 2015 09:00 Half the Sky wrote: Disassociation. Obviously this violates Ockham's razor but it's something to come back to in the event of a sabotage. Right... That's quite far into the tinfoil land I mean, in the first place, it's a bit hard to organize something like that with no scumQT... | ||
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On November 06 2015 09:01 ShoCkeyy wrote: Why does it matter when a good portion of the town already thinks you're town? Quite likely you're just scum and it doesn't matter much. Still worth it trying to understand your logic (or lack of it), in a way. If you happened to be town, it would also be good to stop the impossible association scumread... | ||
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On November 06 2015 09:05 ShoCkeyy wrote: In the event that the mission passes, can we use this same exact team for mission 4? K thanks. That's mission impossible though, since this is the only mission with 3 people I think. | ||
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Mission 1 - 3 people Mission 2 - 4 people Mission 3 - 4 people Mission 4 - 5 people* Mission 5 - 5 people | ||
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I don't think there's anything super-interesting about it if the mission passes. Most likely it's all-town and even if it's not, it wouldn't really surprise me for scum to pass the first mission. Regardless we should probably just add Artanis to the team... If the second mission passes too, then I think we just won already. The fourth mission requires 2 scum to sabotage so that should be impossible for them to achieve anyway... | ||
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