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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:54 GMT
#1206
I guess it's just Occam's razor at this point
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:59 GMT
#1207
On November 05 2015 09:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 08:56 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Aiming for until 12:30am or so... (another 45m) so if anyone wants to talk, please do.


You don't need give details or anything, but where would you everyone one through nine in terms of trustworthiness?


With nine being most trustworthy

kitaman27 6
ShoCkeyy 2 at most
Rels - um, zero?
Artanis[Xp] 7-8
Xatalos 7
Superbia 6
raynpelikoneet - 8-9
sicklucker 5 at most (although I'm atm trying to evaluate him on what he does have...)

I am aware that Rels, you, Superbia have pretty damned capable scum games so there is some caution with some of the ratings.


What do you think of SL now that he's posted a bit more?

Btw I keep back coming to wonder how you preferred Kita/Superbia to me last time when you say they both have amazing scum play.,,,
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 12:57 GMT
#1209
It's more that he was voting yes when his reads were (at least I think so) only rayn being suspect on the team.... I could understand if he scumread the whole team, but... That's just the worst possible outcome he went for.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:01 GMT
#1211
Admittedly, his reads are pretty hard to make sense of. Further explanation would be nice.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:03 GMT
#1212
Rels, thoughts on the current team?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1216
On November 05 2015 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 21:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's more that he was voting yes when his reads were (at least I think so) only rayn being suspect on the team.... I could understand if he scumread the whole team, but... That's just the worst possible outcome he went for.


Did I miss something? Or probably misread...eh maybe I might have to filter dive one more time then around dinner. Still swamped today otherwise at work and probably will only leave the office 2100 at the earliest.


I might have misunderstood him as well, but that's what I got..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1218
Hm... I guess it'll be interesting to see how this turns out. From my point of view, SL has looked pretty decent today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:17 GMT
#1219
On November 05 2015 20:59 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 09:03 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 05 2015 08:56 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Aiming for until 12:30am or so... (another 45m) so if anyone wants to talk, please do.


You don't need give details or anything, but where would you everyone one through nine in terms of trustworthiness?


With nine being most trustworthy

kitaman27 6
ShoCkeyy 2 at most
Rels - um, zero?
Artanis[Xp] 7-8
Xatalos 7
Superbia 6
raynpelikoneet - 8-9
sicklucker 5 at most (although I'm atm trying to evaluate him on what he does have...)

I am aware that Rels, you, Superbia have pretty damned capable scum games so there is some caution with some of the ratings.


What do you think of SL now that he's posted a bit more?

Btw I keep back coming to wonder how you preferred Kita/Superbia to me last time when you say they both have amazing scum play.,,,


Btw I don't think you commented on this?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:28 GMT
#1221
Ok... Though if you say they have "amazing scumgames", it's a bit difficult to see why they couldn't just post a couple of townish-looking posts in a short period of time..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:32 GMT
#1230
LOL rayn :D

Kind of curious how he voted yes last time considering he suspected me and it was a "big deal for him" if the first mission fails...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:33 GMT
#1231
Oh wait, never mind. I got it the wrong way around.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:34 GMT
#1232
So I guess he WANTS the first mission to fail... No matter what...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:35 GMT
#1233
I guess I can see the logic if he thinks we're all scum on the mission?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:36 GMT
#1235
Too bad though that the reads suck and we're very likely all town..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:38 GMT
#1236
On November 06 2015 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well he's gonna vote yes since we are all mafia, then we just don't send any of us into next missions and his town wins.
EZPZ. Unless he wants to claim scum ofc..


I guess we'll see what he votes.... Should be interesting.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:44 GMT
#1239
Or perhaps so that HTS wouldn't have to face against you and me? In any case, his read collection is pretty dubious.. I'm surprised you could even decipher it to that extent Didn't he have a read on SL? Checking..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:47 GMT
#1241
Can't find shockeyy's SL read on phone at least?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:48 GMT
#1243
On November 06 2015 00:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Why is rayn and Xata always posting together most of the time? Why is rayn and xata communicating outside of the game? Why is rayn and xata sounding like the most towns people to everyone? Give me reasons.

Btw rayn I don't see the problem, only you do and also, I only have like four people town read. L2R.


We're not communicating outside of the game? How could we?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:51 GMT
#1249
Isn't that case just kind of like a list of non-alignment indicative things, Rels...? How's that making him super suspicious?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 15:58 GMT
#1254
On November 06 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 00:51 Xatalos wrote:
Isn't that case just kind of like a list of non-alignment indicative things, Rels...? How's that making him super suspicious?

Read it ?
rayn is saying I'm scum 'cause my cases are boring, when it's false in both ways (I can make Superbia-like case as town, I can make evolving push as scum); and he should know it's false, since he's played in the game of the first example (and used a push of this game to explain his meta read on me), and hosted the game of the second example.


But both examples end with "he could be tunneled town or scum"...?

And I agree, even a mistaken push doesn't really make scum. If you're town, it's obviously mistaken from your POV, but even so it's not scum-making. And it's pretty hard to establish your innocence IMO with your massively active scumgames >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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