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On November 05 2015 04:36 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 03:34 Xatalos wrote:
What do you mean that I didn't have any real reads and that my explanation wasn't "genuine"? At the time, I think you just said "I guess we have different views on the word 'engaged' then" or something.... Scum reads, not reads in general. They were all town reads at the time. As for the engaged stuff I think I explained how he hadn't interacted with hardly anyone at all at that point, unless you are asking something different?
Not all. I did scumread you, for example, and shockeyy/Rels were pushing into scum territory.
Whereas you didn't even have a single scumread (or a non-vague read in general) if I remember correctly  So your argument is very... hypocritical, to say the least.
I did admit that Superbia wasn't as engaged back then as I had thought earlier, and that most of his posts being directed at me may have blinded me a bit. Besides I was mostly talking about the quantity of his engagement, not how many people it was directed to.
In any case, your "case" is just nitpicking at this point. If you looked at my meta, you'd see that I'm pretty clearly town already. What you've brought is pretty much either misrepresented or not indicative of anything, such as me being wrong on some small detail...
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Huh... Impossible to townread Rels based on activity, I guess....
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On November 05 2015 06:48 Rels wrote:
Alright caught up. Now listen:
Someone did a post on Xatalos in my game, listing how he never had more than like 10 or 15 pages as scum, and townread him for it. Xatalos was town (he's dead already in my game). So let's check out!
Tbh it's not so much the amount of posts I make, but rather the way I play the game as town. It's pretty hard and dangerous to replicate as scum. One wrong step... But anyways, good luck meta'ing....
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me/rayn/sicklucker
I've also been considering replacing sicklucker with Artanis or you... I guess there's still time to consider it.
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On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
Xatalos' average filter length per game
1 phase = 72 hours
As town
Vanilla Mini Mafia: 40 pages Killed N3 - Average 13.3p / phase
Guilty Mini Mafia: 37 pages Survived N3 - Average 13.8p / phase
Arnie whatever Mafia: 15 pages Endgamed D1 - Average 22.5p / phase
PYP Mini: 19 pages Survived D2 - Average 11.4p / phase
I'm a cop you idiot 2: 12 pages Killed N1 - Average 12p / phase
GOT Mafia: 27 pages Endgamed N4 - Average 6.75p / phase
Nuclear Winter Mafia: 18 pages Killed N2 - Average 9p / phase
PTP IV: 10 pages Killed D3 - Average 3.75p / phase
British Empire Mini Mafia: 3 pages Lynched D1 - Average 4.5p / phase
Paranoia Mafia: number of phase not indicated
Newbie XIII: 13 pages Lynched D3 - Average 4.88p / phase
Average page / phase as town: 10.19
As mafia
Assassination mafia: 5 pages Killed N2 - Average 2.5p / phase
Carol of the bells: 14 pages Endgamed N5 - Average 2.8p / phase
Titanic: 15 pages Lynched D3 - Average 5.63p / phase
Desert: 15 pages Survived N5 - Average 3p / phase
Newbie XXVI: 2 pages Lynched D4 - Average 0.55p / phase
Newbie XV: don't wanna find out the number of phases.
A GOT mafia (not the fucking same): 3 pages Survived N5 - Average 0.6p / phase.
Average page / phase as mafia: 2.51
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase
OK I think it's pretty clear. p:
What's with the "don't wanna find out" ones or something >.>
Anyways I guess that's valid to some extent. I think it's more of a general playstyle thing than just the activity though.
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Haha
I guess Artanis is looking pretty townie with his recent posts. Maybe it's a "fear read" or whatever you call it, but I just still have a slight trauma about him being the most townish-looking player in one game and ending up being scum... The I'm a cop you idiot or something game?
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On November 05 2015 07:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 07:25 Xatalos wrote:Haha I guess Artanis is looking pretty townie with his recent posts. Maybe it's a "fear read" or whatever you call it, but I just still have a slight trauma about him being the most townish-looking player in one game and ending up being scum... The I'm a cop you idiot or something game? Actually I didn't like his last comment implying he knew my town game. I would prefer kita me or shockey in the team.
I'm afraid that's not happening
Did you scumread SL?
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Decisions, decisions....
Gut still says SL. In any case, it's not like Artanis or Superbia are probable scum either...
Will probably go with SL and hope he appears tomorrow to do some good stuff. If not, we can just reject the team and go with Artanis anyway since he's apparently next...
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Yeah, let's go with that. If SL appears worse by tomorrow, it can be turned over to Artanis anyway.
So the risk is really pretty small.
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On November 05 2015 07:57 Superbia wrote:
I don't want to explain. Trusterino pls.
What was the reason?
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On November 05 2015 07:49 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 07:39 Xatalos wrote:
Decisions, decisions....
Gut still says SL. In any case, it's not like Artanis or Superbia are probable scum either...
Will probably go with SL and hope he appears tomorrow to do some good stuff. If not, we can just reject the team and go with Artanis anyway since he's apparently next... Why are you hoping someone will show town instead of someone that already has? The rationale doesn't make sense.
Just saying that his behavior has already matched town motivations rather than scum motivations. He's been kind of "doing his own thing", clearly not caring what others think of him. I hope he'll post some good stuff soon(ish) to further establish his innocence or at least not look worse. If not, he can be skipped so it's not a big deal.
As for Artanis, the difference is small, but it's mainly the way how he appeared very townish in one of my earlier games and was scum... It's hard to let go of that small doubt.
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On November 05 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote:
This one is probably going to get rejected straight out bc there's a good chance SL will just continue to lurk. =/ Artanis would've gotten some votes.
Well it's not too bad even if something like that happens. Artanis is next in line for leader anyway.
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Welcome back to the living, sicklurker 
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Anyways, I'm too tired already and will go to sleep soon(TM). Voted yes for now. Let's see what the day brings.
Btw I agree that sicklucker's OMGUS thing on me was pretty.... crazy lol
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On November 05 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote:
like i would never put up a team that didnt include me so its hard to be mad at xata for it
Yeah....
Looking pretty good atm. Glad that SL has become a bit more active, and the things he says are pretty much spontaneous/carefree. Quite confident that the team is all-town.
Let's see....
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On November 05 2015 12:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Also brings me to my next point, who ever is pushing for me as mafia. I would say to start looking there - there's definitely mafia hiding there.
Btw could you explain why you voted yes on the last team even though it included rayn, your scumread?
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Well, I guess you didn't "directly" (??) call him scum, but pretty much most of your posts suspected him some way or another..,.
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On November 05 2015 05:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 05:26 kitaman27 wrote:On November 05 2015 02:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also don't need to place myself on my own team if I'm confident on who is town. Back to work. The problem that I have here is that you said you would pass every combination except the xat + rayn combo. rayn really seems to be the player you were most suspicious of on day one, yet you sent it through. Also, don't get discouraged by everyone scum reading you if you are indeed town. People are going to reject pretty much anything you say if the hive mind is against you. Just keep trucking and maybe it will help sometime down the road The reason I passed it was because if a sabotage happened on the first mission, then that can just fuel the suspicion even more and more people would start to see what I'm talking about. Also, Idc if people scum read me, I've been playing TL Mafia since the mafia forums first opened ;p
What.....?
So you WANT scum on the mission >.>
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Urg... Hurting my head to think of a way this could possibly be town shockeyy' genuine thoughts....
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