EPTI think we need a little pressure. I'll be back.
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I think we need a little pressure. I'll be back. ##vote VisceraEyes | ||
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On November 17 2015 06:24 Trfel wrote: Yeah, I'm either missing something quite large or VisceraEyes is mafia. His recent posts point to the former.First post suggests that I'm town, second post suggests that I'm mafia (I didn't post in between). No conclusion at all, no push. No comments on anything else, didn't even respond to my case. I don't think he's calling you mafia, but rather just calling you bad "slow", I just thought it was an ad hom that wasn't alignment indicative in of itself. Anyhow, I'm going to turn my attention to VE. So VE, what are your reads (scott's question) and why lynch Fecalfeast over MoosyDoosy? And if Trfel's case sucks, why? Going against the majority is generally a town trait and here you are saying "like repeatedly failing to see what most everyone sees", the latter makes it easier for scum to hide I would argue. Now you aren't intentionally saying he's doing so, so what is the point of your pushback on him? Also you are calling Trfel "slow" and inferring he is bad at this game or at least wrong on your alignment. Now I have another question for you VE. If you are town, what does that say to you about geript who is inferring that Trfel's game is (at this point in time) exclusively scummy? | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Would lynch. What is there to explain? You ninjaed me but see the question in my next (now most recent) post, why him over MoosyDoosy? | ||
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On November 17 2015 00:00 NocturneMage wrote: Alright, one last post. Eh, Fecal is lurking and he's admitting it. So I also don't know where you are getting "actively engaging from" other than actually giving four early reads (30/361) and asking Moosy one question. I would think a mafia player wouldn't be so obvious unless this is a proven scum meta of his. The GTA comment is NAI, not sure why "old" games make the post hard to believe unless you know this guy out of game. I also don't know whether you missed it but how you could, at this stage of the game, lynch him over Moosy. | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:17 VisceraEyes wrote: I have no reason to prefer Fecal to Mossy. Aside from having played more with Fecal, but with so little content that hardly matters. It's a flavor thing, I noticed Fecal first. So if I understand you correctly you are saying that Fecalfeast normally posts more or has more (meaningful???) content as town? | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote: I at least know who he finds suspicious early when he is paying in the thread, at least from my experience. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's that. Well like I said in my first response to you he had FOUR reads (posts 360/361) in addition to ritoky, in a separate post. Now the quality of those reads is another story, but the reads were there. | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:12 NocturneMage wrote: Now I have another question for you VE. If you are town, what does that say to you about geript who is inferring that Trfel's game is (at this point in time) exclusively scummy? to clarify this is in context to his first (smaller) case on you since geript has been out of thread I believe ever since. | ||
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On November 17 2015 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote: The quality of the reads is what I'm referring to. Not just who but why, etc. He openly admitted he was being lazy. Does he have "lazy" games as mafia? In #495 he admits he's been lazy again after his next list post. Does he just typically not care as mafia? Or by contrast are his reads more detailed as town? And if this is the case, why was your phrasing as such "I don't know what he thinks". Why didn't you just directly ask him? | ||
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To be fair I have never played with Fecalfeast either. But you'd think that if he was mafia, well I was told when I was scum my first game, most mafia play to survive. Fecalfeast is just coming off to me like he doesn't give a shit tbh. | ||
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And I need to afk again. Not sure when more people will be on, but it looks like I will be missing people due to timezones. Damn. If anyone has anything for me, I'll probably not get to it until the morning. | ||
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And I realise Damdred is her husband but how on earth is that Mafia indicative for her? The second point of yours is something I questioned but the rest of your points are making my head spin. | ||
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On November 17 2015 08:48 ritoky wrote: Wait what? I wonder if my soul read can be a family thing. Dat shit would be OP, have to try it. Farah said last game her husband was Damdred. Once youre finished with her then try to read me, my wife's played on TL the last year lol so you probably know how to read her too xD Anyhow, I'm seriously catching up now, I know I missed a few posts from Breshke. | ||
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On November 17 2015 09:04 FarahBlackwing wrote: 5) scott31337 7) Breshke 9) Fecalfeast I"m not sure about disinformation he might need to be in this list, i'd probably add him and lynch into those 4. Can you expand upon disformation, Breshke and Fecalfeast? There is no previous mention in your filter. | ||
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On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote: It's mostly less active people. Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry. Shit please don't remind me of that game. I want VE to come back as well but by the time he does I'm going to be asleep. disformation in my first game I don't recall being obvious town when he was town, but he might be a decent copcheck. In fact as of now, him and Scott might be decent copchecks if we have one. Also Moosy's post on Farah was pretty bad as well. I'll explain why. | ||
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On November 17 2015 09:44 ritoky wrote: also someone comment on what i typed...i feel dumb typing it now. I'm going to try and get to that before I go to bed. It's almost 1am here, and I've been up for way the hell too long. | ||
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On November 17 2015 08:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: 1. Weird gambit early on that Farah would never make. 2. Using asshole move to explain "boring thread" and try to push under rug. Not exactly explaining it away. 3. Bad read on Shining using bad meta and using other people's meta as excuse for read to get out of bad situation. 4. Gives too many free town reads based on nothing at all. 5. Mechanical post that claims emotion when there is none. Is tone read. Alright, Moosy, this is why I don't like this post. 1 Again....bloody meta. "That Farah would never make." No. Please. How is that gambit mafia. Pretend this is her first game. Does that gambit achieve dick all? 2 I did agree she didn't explain her reaction test etc. If she responded I had missed the response. 3 Again, meta. How are you to use meta to judge someone's metaread on someone's meta? I'm pretty sure I'm using correct English here. 4 No, I disagree with this somewhat. The Shining read I didn't agree with and I asked her to flesh out the ritoky read and I did agree with the reasoning for a few of the others. 5 Tone reads aren't entirely reliable, and the quote you posted, I'm not sure it was emotionless, especially if it was the one where she said "can't be assed" like she's mad at you because you aren't playing seriously. | ||
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On November 17 2015 09:51 Fecalfeast wrote: Oh, to add to your post nocturne, he said meta on himself is invalid because he plays on other sites but he is willing to use meta on farah who's on her second game... Exactly, it's absolute shit that does dick all in figuring out anyone's alignment. I'm honestly this close to just lynching him at at least encouraging the use of investigative roles to sort out others. | ||
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