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On November 23 2015 22:54 LoneMeow wrote:Day 3 VotecountOnegu (5): Damdred, disformation, ritoky, Fecalfeast, NocturneMage Trfel (0): FecalfeastNot Voting (2): The Shining, Trfel It looks like Onegu will be facing the court-martial for treason in leading the vote with 5 votes!
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this sucks, again we need four votes.
(trfel has since voted FF, Shining no vote)
Honestly if Shining no votes, I think he's town, and you are town, I think this game is over.
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I have 8 minutes, can we get 4 on ritoky please.
trfel not getting to ritoky or disformation as he mentioned prior is also unsettling.
if the former is town, I will take in every bit of criticism/blame/bullshit warranted.
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Shining could get modkilled if he doesn't vote most likely. Maybe replaced, but I can't predict mod actions so always lynch scum and ignore the mods.
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YES!!!!!
##unvote ##vote ritoky
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well Shining it's Monday. I hear you are gone Mon/Tues. I wasn't really expecting much tbh.
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On November 24 2015 04:55 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2015 04:53 disformation wrote: Yeah, at this point I would kinda prefer Trefel or maybe ritoky, since Onegu is right, if he flips town we get 0 additional info. I really hope The Shining doesn't get modkilled... Doubt trfel is scum here for trying to move votes off of me. He was the first to unvote remember. And he did so early enough that there could be a vote switch.
saved for future reference.
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On November 24 2015 04:55 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2015 04:53 disformation wrote: Yeah, at this point I would kinda prefer Trefel or maybe ritoky, since Onegu is right, if he flips town we get 0 additional info. I really hope The Shining doesn't get modkilled... Doubt trfel is scum here for trying to move votes off of me. He was the first to unvote remember. And he did so early enough that there could be a vote switch.
Fecalfeast, what do you think of this?
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On November 24 2015 04:54 The Shining wrote: Fuck it. Do it. Gonna trust my gut.
##Vote: ritoky
I've been at the emergency vet since late last night, my dog caught an allergic reaction to something and almost died on me. Haven't really had much time to read or play.
also sorry to hear about that as well. what breed?
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On November 24 2015 04:59 disformation wrote: 1min b4 deadline here. Super glad I bought some beer earlier. I need one right now.
Fuck it, I'm just going to policy lynch HTS next chance I get for corrupting this community.
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I'd talk more but I don't think we are allowed to talk after deadline. If I'm wrong on that, then I'll continue.
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YES YES YES YES
Well fucking done town. GET IN THERE EVERYONE. Not surprised Trfel was mafia.
ritoky going for separating himself from Trfel, wp mate.
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disformation, this is why last minute voting is GOOD for you!
Are you drinking that beer now?
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Damdred drew my attention to a Trfel/ritoky team in his analysis.
Good on him, he deserves credit for that. Both skirted Breshke day 1 even if he didn't conclude it, I feared a Trfel/ritoky team for that reason.
And ritoky was EXTREMELY suspicious for trying to save me for mylo and his reads on disformation and Fecalfeast had some very poor double standards.
Shining, you had a really good read on him, onegu, good call as well.
And you two, I hope things get better for both of you.
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On November 24 2015 05:48 Trfel wrote: Well played.
I'm fun to play with as town, really!
Well, most of the time!
Well, sometimes....
Well, once.....
GGs Trfel. I'm sure I'll see you in another game. Hopefully I didn't come across as too much of a dick this game.
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On November 24 2015 05:50 Fecalfeast wrote: I think moose and farah being blue, like someone smarter than I said, really messed with the scumteam. I had A LOT of townreads day 1 and while two of them were scum (trfel/rit) having some of the scummiest players turn out confirmed/unCC'd it really narrows the options for mislynch
didn't moose afk day 1? he wouldn't have claimed in time I don't think.
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On November 24 2015 05:51 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2015 05:50 NocturneMage wrote:On November 24 2015 05:48 Trfel wrote: Well played.
I'm fun to play with as town, really!
Well, most of the time!
Well, sometimes....
Well, once..... GGs Trfel. I'm sure I'll see you in another game. Hopefully I didn't come across as too much of a dick this game. Nah, you were fine. The big thing you did wrong is that you let me live so long  When you make a big post with a bunch of reasons why I'm scum, and I only respond to half of them, what does that tell you about the other half? XD
There was enough resistance against your lynch that it would have never gone through.
People kept saying "angry town" but I have been told that tone can be faked. So I just ignored that. But people bought into it.
People kept saying about the vote analysis being too suicidal for scum Trfel but from the main wagon, but because you would otherwise be hit for bussing late on the wagon, Trfel had no choice but to create another wagon so that part is really not alignment indicative.
ritoky though just kept looking worse, and I felt I could push him more confidently into the grave with my case.
Much more than I could you.
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On November 24 2015 05:52 Fecalfeast wrote: Oh right.
Farah: I apologize if I had any part in your decision to sub out. Whether this game or the previous game. I hope you can find motivation to play here again but, if not, I had fun playing with you regardless.
Eversince: GET WELL SOON WE NEED UPDATES ARE YOU OK?
Same here. I hope I did not come across as a dick, I was told by my coach that pushing you too much without giving you room to show you were town is generally a turnoff and I can see that it was, so I'm sorry for that.
And Eversince, please get better. That is such a rough go.
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On November 24 2015 05:56 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2015 05:51 disformation wrote:On November 24 2015 05:50 Trfel wrote: Honestly, the Damdred replacement was pretty awful for us. I'd stuck my neck out way too far pushing FarahBlackwing, Damdred's replacement didn't only kill any push against that slot, but he also knew conclusively that I wouldn't do that as town.
We were actually planning to counterclaim FarahBlackwing on Day 3.... Yeah, can totally see that. Mentioned before that farah and moosy of all ppl being blue was bad for you guys. Getting Damdred in the vet slot and losing the roleblocker was super incredible bad for you guys. ^^ FarahBlackwing played quite well, honestly. No clue why everyone was scumreading her. It wasn't that Damdred replacing in for FarahBlackwing was such an "unfair substitution". It was just that it happened after we were already committed to a certain strategy, and replacements always change strategy. I'd say that Damdred's #1 advantage over FarahBlackwing when he replaced in was simply having a fresh approach, and the continual frustration and pressure was the whole reason we were pushing FarahBlackwing to begin with. I am sorry for upsetting FarahBlackwing so much, though, I got carried away with it.
Yeah, but you were scum, so as long as you weren't being a dick about it (like calling her obscenities) I think you did what you needed to do.
I was just very unclear with the stonewalling after her claim, and whether she understood why claiming with such a long period of time to go in the cycle was such a bad thing. I personally only picked up on that from observing nearly a dozen games prior to playing to be honest, and I probably should have asked her if she was aware or what she was doing rather than just go all out accusing her.
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One thing I'd like to ask from more experienced players is vote analysis. That shit still confuses me mostly and any post on it I feel like I have to play 20+ games to really understand how to analyse town and mafia actions from votes.
Like I only knew that late votes = bussing was from experience in newbie 13. My only prior mafia experience was real life and everyone just throws their hands up all at once.
But trying to lay out the votes this game I will say is much much easier with the tracker but even then it's hard to tell timing motivations, even with Shining's statements on number of switches, I would have never picked up on ritoky's switching as a bad thing.
are there any guides or anything to try and pick up voting analysis? it seems so effective but so difficult to understand. fuck.
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On November 24 2015 05:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also, it was fun to coach Disinformation. Very active and enthusiastic. I hope you keep playing because you're an enrichment to the site 
I enjoyed playing with you as well disformation. Game is much more fun when we're both town. Drink up mate.
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