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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
October 19 2015 19:22 GMT
#641
Day 1 Vote Count


scott31337 (5): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, Fecalfeast
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337, Vonthin, GlowingBear
KelsierSC (1): GlowingBear, LoneMeow, Eversince
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker, boxerfred
Vonthin (0): Fecalfeast
sicklucker (0): GlowingBear
boxerfred (0): MoosyDoosy
GlowingBear (0): MoosyDoosy

Not voted (1): LoneMeow

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends at Monday, Oct 19 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is mandatory! Voting is done here in this thread. PM the hosts if the vote count is not correct.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 19 2015 19:24 GMT
#642
On October 20 2015 04:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 04:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I just woke up and skimmed the new posts.
##unvote
##vote scott31337


seems fine to me if nobody else sees how scummy vonthin is


##Unvote
##Vote: eversince

So you think I'm scum? Have you mentioned why?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 19 2015 19:27 GMT
#643
On October 20 2015 04:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 04:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 20 2015 04:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I just woke up and skimmed the new posts.
##unvote
##vote scott31337


seems fine to me if nobody else sees how scummy vonthin is


##Unvote
##Vote: eversince

So you think I'm scum? Have you mentioned why?


I think you could be
I'm adorable.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:27 GMT
#644
Look at my case, ever isn't doing anything still but making excuses also. Vote for ever he's scum look at my case.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:28 GMT
#645
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496519-student-mafia-xvi?page=27#536

Look at it read it and vote ever since
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 19 2015 19:29 GMT
#646
ok im here thats an early deadline
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
October 19 2015 19:29 GMT
#647
On October 20 2015 00:52 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello and good morning, I believe that Eversince is the best lynch today and here are the reasons why.

Firstly we look at the entrance post that he makes about TheShining.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 04:54 Eversince wrote:
I caught up at last!

I don't much like Shining at all. especially this

On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


This is a big post that says nothing at all really.
Farah read is the most generic thing I've seen in a while.
Second paragraph is all filler.
The most telling point in it is the Moosy read. He's capable of caring so much that he'll buss his entire team to win. The fact that he's not caring this game doesn't bother me though. Yeh, how does that statement make any sense at all unless you already know what alignment Moosy is?



Seems a bit interesting on the surface except shining has been getting a bit of attention from most of the thread. It also lacks some of the context that is going on at that time in the thread. On its own its not a big deal and with follow up it could be good. [green] Yeh, and I noticed it too. Sorry it took me until yesterday to start reading the game. I didn't have internet at my house so I went to the library to avoid getting modkilled for not doing so.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


And then Eversince immediately jumps to putting some shade onto FecalFeast. But then does ask Shining about his 180 on GB.

Shining answers and this is the response

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:21 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:17 The Shining wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:56 Eversince wrote:
Oh goodies, while your here Shining, why the 180 on GB?


Oh this ought to b fun. Please do explain my 180 on GB since I have no idea what you're talking about.


Prior to that list post you where calling people out for town reading GB implying you didn't have one. What lead you to that town read?


After this shining answers again but Eversince ignores him and never even goes back to his scum read on him instead choosing to focus on FF and Kelsier. In context and with shinings answer it does seem like Eversince isn't reading the thread as thoroughly as they could be.

His tift with me comes down to how he is reading FecalFeast, when pressed for a better explanation these posts were the response.
I missed Shinings post entirely because I was busy trying to type my butt off because people wanted my explanation on Kelsier. Now I must admit I think I may have just taken the interaction wrong, is it impossible to believe why I'd think that way? I will be more than happy to expand on my thought process, in the night, at the time if I'm still alive.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 19 2015 05:19 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


Why not explain a bit more?


Sure! He's done squat all this game. Then randomly pops in to say if the current lynch isn't town he'll eat a hat. So confident in his read but doesn't care to explain why or how he came into that read. I think that's the first read he even has this game.


On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote:
What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?


On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?


On October 19 2015 05:44 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote:
What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?

On October 19 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can you point out some actual posts and what you find scummy about them? Specifically how his questioning of moose was scummy rather than towny


You ignored my request for actual scummy posts


I'm not ignoring it. It takes time to post thoughts on two pages of filter. Time, you'll get my thoughts about it soon.


On October 19 2015 05:53 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?

Why don't you ask him?


Why ask this and not just tell me? I mean it's pretty obvious I'd like to know.
It's important for Farah, because you haven't done it at all yet.
When I made my first post on you, you had 3 post. 2 completely filler post followed with that.


On October 19 2015 06:19 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 06:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 06:09 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok and does my not explaining my reads to your satisfaction make me scum?


Yeh, it looks kind of bad.

'kind of bad'

come on give it to me! I want something with real emotion! Why am I scum? You started posting right around the same time as I came back to thread, why is my inactivity with NAI excuses worse than your inactivity? Why is my goading you for fun scummy when I missed the fun joke around phase?


Who would you kill if you had a gun right now?


You. Your not worth a lynch. Not playing the game sadly doesn't make you scum. Refusing to give a reason to have the reads you have might but until you actually start playing that might be difficult to figure out.


Now in this mess of quotes is the sequence of events. Tries to put scum on FecalFeast for unexplained reads does not seek to understand where the reads come from only try to make him look scummy, when he is confronted/pressured to explain his stance he does to some degree. Still thinks FecalFeast is scummy by the end of interactions but thinks that FecalFeast isn't worth a lynch because he isn't "playing".

Fecal had 3 post at the time. 2 complete filler. 1 naming random people for seemingly no better reason than to say their names. How is that me painting him as scum? It looked terrible. He was obviously in the thread, so calling him out to get him talking so I can expand on it to adjust my reads makes me anti town in what way?

His interactions with Kel are just as strange, loads up the argument he has with moosdoosy and writes a narrative to explain why it is scummy but when hes confronted by Kelsier if all of his posts are scummy he is answered that some of his posts Eversince likes, but votes him anyway.

Re previous statement about Kelsier. I'm not sure anymore but at the time I had very little time to work with, posting my thoughts about who my top mafia reads and trying to explain on how I came to them is strange how?

I think hes scum but heres a condensed version.

TLDR:
1) Only comes into the thread to fling discord and soft push people to see what would take off. You can see this within the posts on Shining, FecalFeast and Kelsier (who he settles on)

Only came into the thread from p8 after a 30 minute walk to the library to play the game. Reads the entire game. Makes deductions and shared them.

2) There is a lack of curiosity and trying to figure out peoples alignments, we see this with how he reacts to FF reads instead of trying to figure out why he has the reads that he does. Instead he latches on and tries to paint him as scummy as can be without even asking why until all the people who are active including FecalFeast tells him to ask Fecal why he had those reads.

Lack of time... I made my decisions, picked my top reads at the time and choose one to run for. It was either this or no vote which seemed real stupid, but in hindsite I'm getting lynched anyway so yeh, sorry town. I played bad. Fecal is explained above.

3) Seems to not be reading the thread at a decent clip, for example his ribbing of shining about the generic read on myself. He was one of the first people to post that reasoning so it can't really be generic. It also seems like he didn't read FecalFeast read post or some of the context in the kelsier posts.

Openly admitted to not reading the thread in my first post.Missed Shining responses, I'll go back later if I'm not toast. Thanks for thinking my thought process wasn't trash though..

4) Forgetting scum reads to move onto another, look at how he handles the shining and it seems like hes coming out of the gates to scum him, but has no real interaction with him to a point. And even though shining is here ignores him after one response when there is valuable information to be gained. Does nothing with the scum lean but settle on other people.

Not forgot, just didn't have time to write two things, whilst talking, and trying to digest everything I had just read.

5) Uneven treatment of Kelsier posting, He weighs the "fight" or questioning of Moosdoosy by Kelsier heavier than the rest of the filter trying to make him look like scum.

I picked 1 out of my top 3 guesses and wrote a case. Lynch me for it I suppose.

I think we have found scum and I invite everyone to vote Eversince with me

##Vote Eversince



I acknowledge I've played like trash this whole game. Sorry town friends, if I live through the day I promise to be more active now that I will actual be able to. If not, it's been a pleasure and see you cowboys later.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
October 19 2015 19:30 GMT
#648
Oh P.S. - My replies are in green obviously.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 19 2015 19:31 GMT
#649
On October 20 2015 02:54 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 02:28 Vonthin wrote:
Day 1 reads has always been the hardest for me, my first newbie game I got lynched Day 1 as town for posting like this, the other game I completed my Day 1 posting was also weak. You can go and look.

As for liking Meow I don't see any scum motivation behind the posts. I understand the logic behind them and what he was trying to accomplish by trying to get reads on people and to trap BF that one time, I just don't see mafia doing that D1.

As for Scott I don't think he was trying to scum up the thread at all in his posts, I don't think being lynched for inactivity day 1(unless they didn't post at all or vote but they would get mod killed anyways) isn't worth it because if they get lynched it doesn't give us much info to go on depending on the result since he has given us so little information which would give the scum an advantage and it would be like playing day 1 all over again unless we get lucky and he is actually scum. Day 2 he does the same thing then you can go for him.

Anyways I'm off for class, not sure I will be back before deadline so my vote will be for Ever

##Vote: Eversince



this feels pretty weak. there isn't actually any further explanation of lonemeow like I asked for. saying you liked what he was trying to do?
well all you have is some stuff he did with trapping bf...but then why do you have bf as a null then. furthermore you already said you liked meow before that even happened with your initial list post. so what was there that he did that you really liked.
This feels like garbage.

Then some made up reasons to town read scott and still thinking this lynch is based on inactivity even though he hasn't explained the major point of his interaction with moosy. But you still seem desperate to save him.

Then "oh btw won't be here so lynch this guy"

why do we lynch ever here. you just sheeped some opinion that he posted a jumbled mess but you gave reasons why that isn't indicative....

pretty sure you are scum here and wouldn't be surprised if scott is aswell.





there a team yo
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
October 19 2015 19:31 GMT
#650
##unvote##vote:scott31337
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 19 2015 19:31 GMT
#651
Hello I'm back. GB might be scum trying to divert the scott lynch.
1 - He had a strong start, got townread, and did jack all until now.
2 - He's saying he doesn't have time to read the game right now; but he's trying to direct the lynch anyway.
3 - He found four reasons to not vote scott over a very short period of time: SL might be scum, FF might be scum, Moosy is voting scott with his scumread BF, FF is voting scott.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
October 19 2015 19:32 GMT
#652
By the way, I don't even really remember the reason we are lynching scott other than the Rels reasoning but I don't want to die today because I actually did want to play in this game.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 19 2015 19:33 GMT
#653
On October 20 2015 04:32 Eversince wrote:
By the way, I don't even really remember the reason we are lynching scott other than the Rels reasoning but I don't want to die today because I actually did want to play in this game.

No worries. That's a good reasonning.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 19 2015 19:33 GMT
#654
On October 20 2015 03:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I think a townie can only be very tunneled and keeping his vote on someone if they constantly try to convince the rest of town to vote with him. A tunneled person can never be this passive.

And a town not sure if his scum read would be voting one of the main wagobs right now.

I'm voting Sicklucker

##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker


im a shannies leader bro catching up then ill lead this lynch
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
October 19 2015 19:34 GMT
#655
Rels assuming I don't die today. I completely missed who you are calling BF
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 19 2015 19:35 GMT
#656
these wagons are so boring
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 19 2015 19:35 GMT
#657
On October 20 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote:
these wagons are so boring

Please explain.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
October 19 2015 19:35 GMT
#658
Day 1 Vote Count


scott31337 (6): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, Eversince
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337, Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): sicklucker, boxerfred
KelsierSC (0): GlowingBear, LoneMeow, Eversince
Vonthin (0): Fecalfeast
sicklucker (0): GlowingBear
boxerfred (0): MoosyDoosy
GlowingBear (0): MoosyDoosy

Not voted (1): LoneMeow

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends at Monday, Oct 19 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is mandatory! Voting is done here in this thread. PM the hosts if the vote count is not correct.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 19 2015 19:35 GMT
#659
On October 20 2015 04:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote:
these wagons are so boring

Please explain.


its the two people who always get lynched
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
October 19 2015 19:36 GMT
#660
i mean im obv voting scott here if people are curious
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