EPTwoulda rather shenayneed onto hopeless or onegu but was too late to make that happen.
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woulda rather shenayneed onto hopeless or onegu but was too late to make that happen. | ||
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Gn yall, gl. Bh ritoky Rayn probally chrom and maybe xat (I still think his sheer activity disqualifies him as scum, but he might be playing a holyflare level game, dont think it's likely though) are the only people I really consider full town atm. No one else deserves a pass and should be cast under a lens. Back to the drawing board T_T | ||
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But I could definitely be wrong / : I def wouldnt lynch rayn before gb onegu hopeless though. | ||
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As scum I see him trying to sway town more, as hes far more insecure(because he knows hes lying scum) | ||
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On October 28 2015 01:57 Xatalos wrote: Going forward, I guess a lurker/policy lynch on D1 would be the best option. No risk of arguments going overboard. On another note, it'll be interesting to see who gets shot tonight. Maybe Vivax, BH, gumshoe or me... It should depend on what the actual scumteam is. It'll be Bh, hes the most calm level headed person here. The one that most agree is town. I just engineered a lynch on a townie so its not gonna be me / : and theres no reason for scum to end the shit show that is you and Rayn. Barring scum incompetence and weird meta, Bh is probs done. Bh, you gotta get as many reads in as possible tonight ) : So I dont think we have much choice in the next few lynches. Chrom is probs town, as there was no reason to push Gb as hard as he did when the lynch was already going great for scum. So adding him to my town pile only leaves a few possibilitys. Hopeless never mentioned yam at all really until his vote, so thats an obvius one. Onegu's vote on hopeless was super pointless for a townie. The kind of thing I could see him doing because he knew both wagons (gb and yam) were town and wanted to be like "hah! I was the only guy who knew what was up yo" he may have also wanted to distance himself from hopeless. Early on Onegu mentioned that he wouldnt be very useful, but that he would be fairly right most of the time. sounds kinda like scum no? You all call me useless but then you all know my reads are normally right on. Unless they are completely wrong. It is never a mix of right and wrong. And I am more right than wrong. Then theres Gb, there may not be any way to avoid lynching him honestly / : so long as players like chrom and rayn are set on Gb, town cant really function. That and I might have just been wrong about him T_T I have one more potential scum read, but at this point the well becomes pretty foggy and there's no point calling up a shitstorm when I don't have any hard evidence. I will say that if Onegu and hopeless arent both scum, then someone here has been playing a really good game. Which means were in trouble ) : If we want a certain lynch, these two would probally be best. But it might too much for town to function until we've cleared Gb so hes the other choice / : Between Hopeless and Onegu, I would lynch hopeless first. Otherwise Gb will have to go just as a matter of course / : even though I really am not that sold on him. | ||
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On October 28 2015 03:01 GlowingBear wrote: No way you defend me like you did and say this, gumshoe. No way. Yes way, I was wrong yesterday Gb. 100 percent wrong. My only chance to win this game is to not do that here on out. That requires read revaluations / : A large part of my town read on you was also predicated on Yam being scum, thats fallen through unfortunatly T_T which means though your not at the top of my list I do not consider you as townie as Rayn, Bh, Xat,chrom and Ritoky and would not lynch any of them before you. Which greatly limits my options / : | ||
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On October 28 2015 05:01 Xatalos wrote: Oh yeah I missed this post. I wondered a bit where GB found his quote. Is the "calling a shitstorm" referring to calling rayn scum?  Well, since we have one "free" mislynch left, I guess GB wouldn't be the WORST option. At least lynching him would solve a lot of mysteries about how the game has went. Unlike say, lynching hopeless. But lynching rayn would be equally informative and more likely to hit scum IMO... Then there's Onegu too.... No, someone else, If chrom(why push gb as hard as he did day 2? Would look like shit after a green flip), ritoky(the onegu shenani and a general town vibe) bh(obviusly) rayn(twat) you(also obs) and me(most obs) are town and one of us is getting shot. That only leaves 4 suspects. three of which should be scum. If im actually right this time, we win as long as we dont lynch outside those 4. Its that or enough scum have been outclassing town that winning is gonna be a real bitch. All that said we really cant afford to waste our mislynch on Rayn T_T Historically I've been very good at reading him as town when everyone wants his head so though I agree 100 percent that he deserves a fire beneath his feet, it's not how were gonna win / : bonus points for Rayn. I dont think he would have shot marv n1 considering marv was controlling town and defending him, I also dont buy a scum Rayn bieng this mean to you Xata. Rayn is only this much of an ass to people hes actually emotional twoards / : that and Rayn's day 1 looked fine. If Gb flips scum, thats all the more reason to write Rayn off as town / : so if we do plan on lynching gb at some point, rayn would only come after that if ever. | ||
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OF COURSE GB is going to have more weird flipflops and flaws than yamato; yamato literally hasn't posted. You can't say GB looks worse than yamato and have that be a meaningful statement. With not even two pages of filter, theres no way that Hopeless looks more scummy than anyone here / : I dont doubt that hes very careful about not slipping up, the whole notion that scum will deliver themselves to us on a platter is something I have fought with people from mah very first game. Scum are fairly capable of not looking all that scummy / : If Hopeless is town, than that means that means at least 2 scum have outclassed town enough that if even we play optimally we lose almost no matter what. Shitty, yes. But I'm not gonna vote for someone I am confident is town just because the actual town fucked up that bad / : | ||
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shhhhhhhhhh | ||
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Basically it comes down to my opinion of Rayn as a person. I've played voice mafia, video mafia and forum mafia with rayn more than any other player. Weve yelled at eachother, weve lynched eachother, like and disliked one another. I once swore on my life to him that I was town. And you know what? He believed me, but was fucking mad at me for what he considered cheating . The godamm nerve. That Rayn, WOULD get pissed at slam, for what in his mind is a gross breach of conduct (dont ask how, it all makes sense in his head) But as scum? Hed just let it go with a passing remark of anger or apology , and move on to the next lynch. Because thats his code, in Rayns head there is respectable way to play mafia. The code allows him to act like this in response to people breaking the code, but him using like this, in a way that loses towns respect and forfiets control, thats not how rayn plays or wants to win as scum ) : Thats not the evil Rayn I know, and if hes willing to break that meta, fine, but as a result I would think less of him, and I think on some level he would think less of himself. So if I lose cause I had faith in what I know of Rayn, fine let it be, and he wins by emulating all the he hates, let it be again. Because there are more important things at play here. | ||
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On October 28 2015 05:51 Blazinghand wrote: In terms of "maximum chance to get a scummer tomorrow" Onegu is up there I recall people saying "one of yam+gb must be scum"-- I'll go looking for the reasoning why-- do you remember why people were on about this? It was my argument. They can both be town, but they cannot both be scum (because Yamato basically went after Gb with MAXIMUM kill aggresion, ie directing marv BACK onto Gb.) It has no bearing now / : they could both be town. The application of it was that if Yam is scum, gb is town, and vice versa. Therefore you should lynch the one your most certain is scum to protect the townie between them, which if one is scum, then the other is town and needs protecting. Doesnt do much atm T_T | ||
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Is the only explanation that makes sense to me... I cant believe rayns bitchy play came full circle and actually HELPED town. He was was such a bother for both factions that he wound up functioning as an honorary BG for Bh...wow, just wow. | ||
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##Vote Onegu | ||
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On October 28 2015 07:56 Xatalos wrote: What... the.... fuck? I Know 0_0 its hard not to overthink this. I think the onegu, gb, hopeless train was pretty set last night. If scum liked that lineup, they wouldnt have done anything to rock the boat is my guess. This shot makes me think scum wanted us to read into it and alter course? maybe? Unless the reasoning was the trolly one I mentioned earlier XD Ironically I feel a bit better about the direction town is taking, so barring something crazy, my vote is safe where it is. | ||
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On October 28 2015 08:01 Xatalos wrote: This means that marv was right on rayn though.... And now I have to listen to him :/ screw listening to marv, listen to me XD unless its about Yamato / : | ||
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Chrom is town. Ritoky probs town too but I'm not as 100 percent as I am with chrom. | ||
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You get two obvious hints for this riddle 1) baring a modkill scum NEEDS two mislynches to win. 2) scum have not yet forfeited. So what is the one thing the Rayn kill actually tells us? Super townie points to the one who figures it out : D bonus question, how does the answer help us find scum : D | ||
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