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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 13:55 GMT
#3300
I guess rayn could have just been wrong on ritoky. He was wrong on me and Onegu as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 14:32 GMT
#3305
I think going that far is a bit WIFOM, but there should definitely be some value in reviewing Onegu's reads/actions/interactions
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 14:34 GMT
#3306
Tbh this is a pretty good point for gumshoe being town

Onegu Profile Blog PM Joined May 2010 United States6753 Posts
October 23 2015 19:40 EET #1092
On October 24 2015 01:55 gumshoe wrote:
Can we just collectively agree to pussy out as town and vote for the most objectively useless player?

Onegu, 2015



Nope sorry my friend better luck next time!!!!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:27 GMT
#3328
Good luck at LYLO gumshoe :D Bear with it hahaha
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:29 GMT
#3330
I'm really glad we got Onegu yesterday so we have some leeway left for one townie just being...... overly tunneled/wrong/paranoid (possibly one of Vivax/GB)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:31 GMT
#3332
On October 30 2015 23:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2015 22:24 Xatalos wrote:
Tbh it's a bit hard to see Vivax playing so actively as scum, but it would explain well all the scumsiding (especially the recent Onegu saving attempt and now pushing gumshoe...).


What scumsidimg exactly? I was at best scumsiding if gb is town and even then im not the only dude who was votinng gb.

im on phone so ill be more extensive later.
i think that if im right on gumshoe ill find more exples of tmi.


Well assuming GB is scum and you're town, you're pretty heavily scumsiding by pushing gumshoe recently...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:33 GMT
#3334
If gumshoe is scum in this game, I'll happily give the win to him. I think he's been the most helpful player for town in the game overall. If such a player is scum, then town deserves to lose...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:49 GMT
#3344
On October 31 2015 01:47 Chromatically wrote:
I'm worried that somehow people won't lynch GB if we don't do it soon. Like LYLO with gumshoe, Vivax, and GB sounds like an absolute nightmare right now.


ROFLMAO
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:49 GMT
#3346
Well does hopeless, Vivax, gumshoe sound any better
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:53 GMT
#3351
Let's see.... Totally hypothetical development of the game..

Xatalos is killed
hopeless is lynched
Blazinghand is killed
GlowingBear is lynched
Chromatically is killed

LYLO would be.... ritoky/Vivax/gumshoe? Not too bad actually, assuming that Vivax is actually scum out of these three.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:54 GMT
#3353
Oh, ritoky wanted to lynch gumshoe....? le sigh
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 16:56 GMT
#3355
Well I'd say gumshoe is the most townie on play by far. Followed by Blazinghand, followed by Chromatically... That's how I see it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 17:00 GMT
#3359
Well I think you can pretty safely say that if my filter is 20+ pages, I'm town
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 17:03 GMT
#3362
On October 31 2015 02:00 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2015 01:36 Chromatically wrote:
Guys, think about this:

IF GB is town:
The mafia are three out of {me, Vivax, Hopeless}. No question.

If you believe otherwise (that at least one mafia was bussing), then you have to find a person on the Onegu wagon that couldn't have switched to secure the GB lynch.

gumshoe wrote a justification for voting GB, he could have kept his vote there.
BH was posting a lot about being worried about the lynch, he could have easily switched at the last second and people would be like "Oh BH, you silly goose! You and your shenannies!"
ritoky switched for basically no reason and hammered scum, he 100% could have just kept his vote on GB with perfect justification.
Xatalos was saying that he might be okay with lynching GB earlier in the day and he's been scumreading GB too, he could have switched.

The mafia team is EITHER GB + someone else OR {me/Vivax/Hopeless}. To believe otherwise, you have to think that scum willingly avoided, for basically no reason, lynching a town and saving Onegu, which would have put us into 4-3 LYLO.

If you disagree with this, you are saying that mafia WILLINGLY chose to kill their partner over GB, when they were already being read as town by everyone in the thread (BH, gumshoe, ritoky, Xatalos all were top towns). There was no reason to bus for town cred when they could have switched to put us in LYLO.


Yeah I think it's kind of unlikely for any of these players to be scum - IF GB is town, at least.

Though I think you're just giving Vivax ammunition for his scumread by hypothesizing something based on GB's town flip while scumreading him (not saying it's scummy, just that he'll probably bring it up soon enough lol)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 17:06 GMT
#3364
Yeah I'd be pretty annoyed if I rolled Onegu and hopeless in my team
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 17:08 GMT
#3365
Btw I still have a lingering feeling that ritoky could be scum, but all the voting etc. evidence seems to point otherwise... Meh. There are enough pretty clear / reasonable townies here that everything should work out fine.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 17:09 GMT
#3366
Something about how ritoky was so excited about being "confirmed" rather than lynching scum... lol :D dunno
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 17:11 GMT
#3368
But if any of gumshoe/BH ends up being lynched, I'll seriously facepalm -.- Chromatically too I guess. I think there's a slight chance for ritoky to be scum still. More likely it's in GB/hopeless/Vivax though
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 17:13 GMT
#3370
RIP
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 30 2015 17:15 GMT
#3371
But yeah... My last words would be to kill hopeless with fire (can't really afford to leave him alive to LYLO even if he happened to be town), seriously consider GB/Vivax and also be vigilant about ritoky, as I still can't shake the feeling it's not impossible for him to be scum. Will just have to see what these people do in the following days.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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