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On October 23 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 06:27 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a question. Xatalos do you seriously think Blazinghand - as town - believes that lynching by RNG on D1 has the best chances of hitting mafia? Like do you SERIOUSLY believe that? depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes. really? when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing?
it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely.
it's actually really simple. i mean i guess it's pretty simple for me cuz i read like 10 of BH's games in the recent past so i could accurately impersonate him. here's your guide to reading BH:
Did he RNG immediately @ the start of the game: if yes -> 80% chance to be town; if no -> 80% chance to be mafia
Did he push the RNG target or just leave it there like a dead fish: if push -> 95% chance to be town; if dead fish - 50% chance to be mafia
Did he gather reads from people arguing with him about why they are better than RNG: yes - DING DING DING town; i don't know he hasn't given reads - 75% town; no - 50% town
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On October 23 2015 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 06:38 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 06:27 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a question. Xatalos do you seriously think Blazinghand - as town - believes that lynching by RNG on D1 has the best chances of hitting mafia? Like do you SERIOUSLY believe that? depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes. really? when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing? it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely. It's actually not. Show nested quote +Mafia players are lynched 26.0% of the time on day one.
Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.2% of the time.
Mafia players are lynched only 16.4% of the time in newbie games on day one, so excluding these games brings the overall day one lynch percentage up to 28.1%! I believe this is not a newbie game so you are just straight out lying.
2.9% is within the margin of error to where it is negligible. also those statistics include the RNG user including themself in the RNG rather than excluding.
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On October 23 2015 06:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
ritoky, where do you stand on gumshoe?
he types walls of text that glaze my eyes over. i thought he was mafia feels at the start, then he gave a respectable read progression on me and climbed up to null. i have 0 strong opinions on him now.
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On October 23 2015 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 07:05 Xatalos wrote:Not quite sure what the bolded means? generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta. So you said he doesn't rng as mafia. Now you said if BH rng's he is 80% town. Does he or does he not rng as mafia? Because if he doesn't, why is he not 100% town? If he does, why is your read on him shit?
read my above post, it is a comprehensive guide to reading BH.
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On October 23 2015 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 06:44 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 06:38 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 06:27 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a question. Xatalos do you seriously think Blazinghand - as town - believes that lynching by RNG on D1 has the best chances of hitting mafia? Like do you SERIOUSLY believe that? depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes. really? when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing? it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely. It's actually not. Mafia players are lynched 26.0% of the time on day one.
Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.2% of the time.
Mafia players are lynched only 16.4% of the time in newbie games on day one, so excluding these games brings the overall day one lynch percentage up to 28.1%! I believe this is not a newbie game so you are just straight out lying. 2.9% is within the margin of error to where it is negligible. also those statistics include the RNG user including themself in the RNG rather than excluding. there is no margin of error. this is not a fucking poll, this is pure statistics and 100% correct.
not really, it is based on a sample size of games in which there are an extreme amount of variables and variance; there is margin of error.
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On October 23 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
#vote ritoky
not gonna change my vote. ritoky is scum.
good night.
what a bunch of crap he is writing.
says the guy who town read me, then scum read me 12 hours later after i hadn't posted and admits he can't read me. good one brochacho.
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On October 22 2015 12:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think ritoky is town tbh
On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there.
On October 23 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand the reads on ritoky. He literally said:
"BH is town until he does something egregious enough to be considered not town."
"generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta."
So what? He townreads Blazinghand for something he then says, in the next post, is not a reason to townread Blazinghand`!!?
On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH? well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations. ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it.
nice one bro.
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rayn might be mafia cuz of the above change of reads and that he is pushing an agenda with no substance.
he might be town cuz he literally read nothing i wrote and just kept trying to push stupidity.
null, altho BH is the most town in the game and i said i am bad and plan to sheep the most town.
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town:
ritoky
BH
slam
marv
hopeless
green side of null:
xata
vivax
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On October 23 2015 07:08 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 07:06 ritoky wrote:
town:
ritoky
BH
slam
marv
hopeless
green side of null:
xata
vivax Slam and Hopeless are town why?
slam cuz my secret meta read on him that hasn't failed me and is way better than the chupazi/hjole read.
hopless cuz he has the funniest post in the thread imo when he said "can you tldr your tldr".
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On October 23 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 07:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. i thought you told me ritoky was town? yeah that was yesterday.
On October 23 2015 06:53 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand the reads on ritoky. He literally said:
"BH is town until he does something egregious enough to be considered not town."
"generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta."
So what? He townreads Blazinghand for something he then says, in the next post, is not a reason to townread Blazinghand`!!? Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH? well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations. ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it. nice one bro.
respond.
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On October 23 2015 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 07:17 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. i thought you told me ritoky was town? yeah that was yesterday. On October 23 2015 06:53 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 12:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think ritoky is town tbh On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. On October 23 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand the reads on ritoky. He literally said:
"BH is town until he does something egregious enough to be considered not town."
"generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta."
So what? He townreads Blazinghand for something he then says, in the next post, is not a reason to townread Blazinghand`!!? On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH? well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations. ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it. nice one bro. respond. no
y'know, gonna be honest here. you're the most underwhelming player that people tell me is good on these forums. i just don't see it; maybe i am the one who is so bad i can't comprehend your greatness; but i don't think that's the case.
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On October 23 2015 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:17 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. i thought you told me ritoky was town? yeah that was yesterday. On October 23 2015 06:53 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 12:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think ritoky is town tbh On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. On October 23 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand the reads on ritoky. He literally said:
"BH is town until he does something egregious enough to be considered not town."
"generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta."
So what? He townreads Blazinghand for something he then says, in the next post, is not a reason to townread Blazinghand`!!? On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH? well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations. ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it. nice one bro. respond. no y'know, gonna be honest here. you're the most underwhelming player that people tell me is good on these forums. i just don't see it; maybe i am the one who is so bad i can't comprehend your greatness; but i don't think that's the case. I don't talk to people who i think are mafia or will not understand me anyways.
i think i am content ignoring everything you say in every game going forward; it doesn't have much value or good reason in it anywayz.
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On October 23 2015 07:24 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:17 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:13 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. i thought you told me ritoky was town? yeah that was yesterday. On October 23 2015 06:53 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 12:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think ritoky is town tbh On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay after poe i am lynching into:
Blazinghand
Xatalos
Onegu
Alakaslam
ritoky
i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. On October 23 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand the reads on ritoky. He literally said:
"BH is town until he does something egregious enough to be considered not town."
"generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta."
So what? He townreads Blazinghand for something he then says, in the next post, is not a reason to townread Blazinghand`!!? On October 23 2015 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 05:39 Blazinghand wrote:On October 23 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I fail to see how i am being "aggressive" here, so could you explain BH? well, not towards me. You're actually being a little more gentle with me, compared to normal. Normally I'd expect you to end up TRing ritoky for that on your own. Maybe it's been some time since we played together, or my edge is getting dull, but I recall you being pretty good at noticing people's motivations. ritoky is a really had to read for me and i don't think he has said much of anything that could be in my opinion considered townie.Maybe it's jsut like you say and other people do not know you as well as i do (and what you can / cannot do as mafia), but still... it's really hard for me to believe both of Xatalos and ritoky actually believe you are town for your actions regarding the rng lynch. I just don't fucking buy it. nice one bro. respond. no y'know, gonna be honest here. you're the most underwhelming player that people tell me is good on these forums. i just don't see it; maybe i am the one who is so bad i can't comprehend your greatness; but i don't think that's the case. Well it's quite possible he may just be scum this game. In fact I'm leaning in that direction right now. He can be great as town.
it's an opinion gathered over many games; not just this one.
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also rayn, your read on chroma is bullshit. "most reasonable person in the game". you were arguing against him that i was town, and his literal only other opinion is that yamato is town. juzzayin.
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alright. here and ready to sheep. who am i sheeping?
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reading the thread...wondering what happened to BH the 2nd half of this phase.
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On October 24 2015 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
just found a joint i rolled earlier and then lost
excellent news
drugs and smoking are bad for your health.
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oh hey he is coming back into the thread where i am at, less worried now.
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On October 24 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
yes but you scumside so that should make you tihnk he is mafia
ritoky: i know, but lots of fun things are bad for your health
as a nurse, some obligation inside of me; y'know?
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