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On October 31 2015 01:12 gumshoe wrote:Damm, logic and insults do not sway you / : my bread and butter are ineffective. All I have left is this. I dont like to do this and I dont want to make a habit out of it / : but I also dont like Vivax having hope. If you really still think I'm scum T_T click the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +I swear on my life and the lives of my mother and father that I am town this game.
read the spoiler please gb.
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On October 31 2015 03:21 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2015 03:19 gumshoe wrote:On October 31 2015 01:12 gumshoe wrote:On October 31 2015 00:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Uh huh Damm, logic and insults do not sway you / : my bread and butter are ineffective. All I have left is this. I dont like to do this and I dont want to make a habit out of it / : but I also dont like Vivax having hope. If you really still think I'm scum T_T click the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +I swear on my life and the lives of my mother and father that I am town this game.
read the spoiler please gb. Are they alive?
yep
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also I'm not dead so, there's that : P
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On October 31 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote:
That actually makes me believe you're town. You wouldn't go that far.
... would you?
ARE YOU CROSSING YOUR FINGERS NOW?
1) Only done it once before to convince a townie who was certain I was scum that I was town. And yes I was town (can find the game if you like)
2) I wouldn't lie about something like this / : (too much of a bitch)
3) fingers crossing does not absolve you from such a vow, but no my fingers weren't crossed -_-
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On October 31 2015 03:28 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2015 03:25 Chromatically wrote:On October 31 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On October 31 2015 01:45 Chromatically wrote:On October 31 2015 00:28 GlowingBear wrote:On October 30 2015 22:11 Chromatically wrote:
Here's something I just thought of:
You're GB and you're town. You KNOW 100% that the wagons were mafia-town, and the vote went through 5-4. Here are the votes against you:
Onegu (confirmed mafia)
Chromatically (your townread who's been pushing you)
Vivax (your #1 scumread all game)
Hopeless (complete lurker you've been calling scum all game)
So... a Vivax-Hopeless team should be pretty obvious from a town GB perspective, right? Instead, GB is assuming that Onegu was a complete bus from both mafia (who didn't hammer GB for some reason?), when he logically should see that all the scummiest people in the game (from his perspective) were piled on his wagon (who he should know is town). Yeah. And me bussing Onegu since day1, however, is completely okay. This doesn't even have anything to do with what I said! THERE IS NO LOGIC TO GB FLIPPING HIS READS LIKE THIS OUT OF NOWHERE. GB has not been bussing Onegu. He's been throwing suspicion on Onegu and saying he's mafia, but never once has he pushed Onegu to be lynched with any kind of force. He votes yamato over Onegu D2 without pushing Onegu and then switches to rayn? If you were mafia and your team was Onegu/Hopeless, would you really not throw suspicion on them?Here's the kind of stuff he's been saying: On October 23 2015 11:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Onegu (I can never read him and I hated that he said he would sheep me - gives me deja vu from last game where he was mafia against me - him being more invested in this game is usually a bad sign)
On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:
I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch.
On October 24 2015 03:08 GlowingBear wrote:
I've said I could lynch Onegu. Yamato is the type of guy that gets afk as both alignments and if he is mafia time can easily tell. On October 26 2015 09:59 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm voting yamato atm but I prefer an onegu lynch better There is absolutely nothing in here that makes a GB-Onegu team unlikely at all. I would argue that the suspicion without pushing it at all makes it more likely. Dude this is exactly why I'm calling gumshoe mafia but he is and I'm not because I ACTUALLY VOTED ONEGU and he only voted when his vote wouldn't take me out of majority. ROFL you people... Are you actually arguing that voting Onegu when he's the other wagon to you makes you town? Absolutely. Especially when I was wanting to lynch him since day1. I could just try to kill Vivax instead. Why would I 100% bus Onegu?
speaking of which you should totes look into vivax now btw : P its become the cool thing to do, which kinda makes you the defacto vivax hipster no?
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On October 31 2015 03:33 GlowingBear wrote:
"Let's lynch slam!"
"I can read him better later, it's better to lynch Onegu"
"No let's lynch yamato then!"
"Him also. I'll vote him but seriously, I prefer lynching Onegu".
When I could just
"Oh yeah, slam play makes no sense, let's lynch him Gg"
hey that's mah argument : D admittedly its a better one now that onegu flipped
also you forgot that you were the primary wagon when slam came along : P should mention that, it helps.
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On October 31 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm gonna ignore BH and Chrome or I'll start punching baby walruses until their deaths.
I'm trusting gumshoe because I actually don't believe someone would say something like "on my parents life" like that. It's. Wow. Yeah.
When I cant talk it out, I can and will resort to emotional terrorism / : but yeah would only do that as scum if someone put a gun to my head ie "gumshoe is scum cause he hasn't sworn on everything he holds dear yet" in that scenario, what can I do right? But if its of my own volition I'm town every time : P
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On October 31 2015 03:44 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2015 03:40 gumshoe wrote:On October 31 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm gonna ignore BH and Chrome or I'll start punching baby walruses until their deaths.
I'm trusting gumshoe because I actually don't believe someone would say something like "on my parents life" like that. It's. Wow. Yeah. When I cant talk it out, I can and will resort to emotional terrorism / : but yeah would only do that as scum if someone put a gun to my head ie "gumshoe is scum cause he hasn't sworn on everything he holds dear yet" in that scenario, what can I do right? But if its of my own volition I'm town every time : P  let's see in the end of the game. I'm agnostic but very superstitious. Go figure...
Fellas gota have a code right : D
Oh shieeeet, now that gb thinks I'm town, vivax has no reason to keep me alive T_T maybees I do die, oh well.
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Hey chrom, this ones directed at you, remember when you asked Onegu a question and vivax swooped in?
Come on, it's in his filter.
Obviously he agrees with rayn on Xata and hopeless.
Disagrees on GB and BH.
Interestingly GB is on his lynch and so is BH, people he isn't scumreading and who were in rayn's case.
Not sure actually if rayn was still thinking of Xata being scum before he died.
He's kinda ignoring two guys who want to lynch him and who rayn scumread? Then I'd like to know his own reasoning for the reads.
this felt super scummy too me on multiple levels.
1: If hes scum with Onegu, maybe hes trying to stop him from saying something stupid seeing as hes probally dead today anyways?
2: Hes trying to crumb more on you, as he has been all game, and kinda on bh as well.
3: rehashing info is a great way for scum to look like they are contributing.
just gave me chills at the time / :
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On October 30 2015 07:07 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 07:05 gumshoe wrote:
The only reason hopeless votes gb there is to save onegu, why is gb not scum as well? Because then hopeless just votes onegu and looks waaay less fishy.
so yeah, third scum is still out there boys. Super flawed logic cause at the time he voted he couldn't foresee anyone switching and he made it 5 4 And if he pops up to ninjavote just to bus when Onegu has a majority he's screwed anyway, nobody would buy it from him given how he's playing.
Are you defending hopeless here vivax? If not and we agree hes scum, all hes doing here is putting his vote on a potential mislynch rather than his buddy -_- given how onegu was treating hopeless all game(and hopeless's insistence this was just a test having long since become bullshit) and how he null read gb prior to his vote, hopeless should have voted onegu(assuming gb was scum too) for consistency's sake just so they dont both go down together. Instead he voted gb, meaning he took a risk, meaning there was something to be gained...like a mislynch, meaning gb is probally town and the wagons were close enough that scum could win the day, considering 1 vote made the difference I'm pretty sure townie life was at stake yesterday / :
Also hopeless is playing bad, the argument he wouldnt do x (cause its terrible) doesn't work cause clearly his scum core is damaged this game.
Where is the flaw in mah logic?
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On October 31 2015 04:05 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2015 03:40 GlowingBear wrote:
You guys are also saying that Onegu, when he can't back, voted on the third scum member of your #dreamteam, saw he was getting lynched anyway then voted me and begged ritiky to vote me instead of just rolling over and dying. Just because, you know, he wanted to survive over his scum partner.
Sigh Onegu was hilariously ineffective, and suspiciously kept his vote OFF of you until he was sure it wouldn't make a difference. seems straightforwards to me
Thats not fair ) : the vote was 5 4, 1 change woulda made the dif. Also lets say vivax is scum, this was him just before the finish.
Xata get your vote on GB PLEASE
he was pushing last sec to get xata or someone else to change, basically begging. I could see this going on between scum in qt.
Vivax:"Onegu wtf are you doing, were 1 vote away from lylo if you just get the fuck off hopeless!"
Onegu:"Ok man fine, chill out!
Vivax:" No FUCK YOU and hopeless, and fuck rels for chaining you cannons around my legs and sending me to the bottom of the sea!"
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On October 31 2015 04:31 Vivax wrote:
Only BH can save me from this madness
You mean the same Bh you've been crumbing all game?
BH hunting the epeen from Onegu lynch while saying GB claimed scum.
priceless.
BH what do you think of what rayn said about you, I think you never talked about it.
That you just flail around lynches without wanting one, basically.
Obviously he agrees with rayn on Xata and hopeless.
Disagrees on GB and BH.
Interestingly GB is on his lynch and so is BH, people he isn't scumreading and who were in rayn's case.
Not sure actually if rayn was still thinking of Xata being scum before he died.
He's kinda ignoring two guys who want to lynch him and who rayn scumread? Then I'd like to know his own reasoning for the reads.
This ones a jewel
Wtf are you doing wasting your vote BH? Hopeless isnt even that awful compared to his usual standard.
BH convinced me a little to pick someone else than GB; but if he keeps not playing and pushing stupid arguments on me I'll have a hard time letting that slide.
BH where is your contribution in finding out who is mafia in all that?
I do admit that I was hasty in reading it as you suggesting a hopeless lynch.
But that means you didn't suggest anything, you told Onegu how to play the game.
Scum is among yamato/rayn/GB/Onegu/BH. Contributing to this game means finding out who the two townies are.
BH dropped off the town list, he has entered the circle of crap now and it's D2 so he can quit the act now. I'll, take a closer look at him after posting this.
this ones just ironic given our current spot
(then BH comes in and is BFF with GB no questions asked but whatever, that's a thing apart),
Yeah actually my lynch-bh-meter is rising continuously every hour that passes that he isn't posting while everyone is bashing their heads in.
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On October 31 2015 04:33 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2015 04:05 gumshoe wrote:Hey chrom, this ones directed at you, remember when you asked Onegu a question and vivax swooped in? Come on, it's in his filter.
Obviously he agrees with rayn on Xata and hopeless.
Disagrees on GB and BH.
Interestingly GB is on his lynch and so is BH, people he isn't scumreading and who were in rayn's case.
Not sure actually if rayn was still thinking of Xata being scum before he died.
He's kinda ignoring two guys who want to lynch him and who rayn scumread? Then I'd like to know his own reasoning for the reads. this felt super scummy too me on multiple levels. 1: If hes scum with Onegu, maybe hes trying to stop him from saying something stupid seeing as hes probally dead today anyways? 2: Hes trying to crumb more on you, as he has been all game, and kinda on bh as well. 3: rehashing info is a great way for scum to look like they are contributing. just gave me chills at the time / : I don't think that post was particularly scummy. If he wants to stop Onegu from saying something he would just say in the scum qt. I didn't really think he was using it to push me either.
if onegu wasnt around maybe not / : also if onegu had just not answered the question (which he didnt) it might have look bad, but vivax psudo answering it did mitigate it a bit.
but admittedly yeah, this ones more just a feel thing.
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On October 31 2015 04:32 ritoky wrote:
i fully expect the shot to be on me or BH tonight, being that i am essentially mod confirmed town, and BH is probably the strongest player who is a top TR alive. anything else is pretty meh.
You'll probally stick around cause of your self admittedly bad scum reads : p scummers might exploit that. I might actually die now but still seems unlikely with vivax coming after me.
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chrom I just need you to be sure that Ritoky is town in case I do get shot, hes town, if you dont think hes town please say so while I can still convince you that hes town : P
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On October 31 2015 04:45 Vivax wrote:
Anyone with a little fact checking realizes your quote collection is just there to sic me with very low, borderline ad hominem arguments.
Look if you wanna play like a mad rager I'm not the one who's going to reciprocate that, it's a waste of time.
So leave scum, I will try to turn anything and everything you say against you because you are scum, and I expect you to do the same to me because you are scum. If your not up for that you dont have to play / ; just go afk like hopeless, well get around to you eventually.
Also It's not nice when someone controls fs you out of context is it? But yeah seriously you've been keeping bh on the back burner all game, that's not slander, theres at least a dozen qoutes to prove it, you just read them. Its fact / :
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On October 31 2015 04:45 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2015 04:41 gumshoe wrote:On October 31 2015 04:32 ritoky wrote:
i fully expect the shot to be on me or BH tonight, being that i am essentially mod confirmed town, and BH is probably the strongest player who is a top TR alive. anything else is pretty meh. You'll probally stick around cause of your self admittedly bad scum reads : p scummers might exploit that. I might actually die now but still seems unlikely with vivax coming after me. hey hey hey! i was the one who made the PoE list of GB, onegu, hopeless first!!!!! then i just went full bitch mode and backed out of it while everyone else realized it was a good idea...i have good reads, just a habit of talking myself out of them. regardless you have to shoot people who are unlynchable in lylo. if the team is anything but gb/x i am unlynchable. if it is gb/x there's a 1% chance someone does something stupid even though i am confirmed town.
well see : P you've shown a propensity to panic as you say, scum needs a patzy and a dope at lylo (and gb wont work as he will either be scum or dead)
so 100 percent town or not you might make a great dope : P
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Scum is among yamato/rayn/GB/Onegu/BH. Contributing to this game means finding out who the two townies are.
fun fact, if we were to follow vivax's plan here and our reads are correct, that would mean town would win up mislynching exactly 4 times( gg) trying to find the magical two townies when really onegu was the only scum among them / :
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On October 31 2015 04:55 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2015 04:49 gumshoe wrote:On October 31 2015 04:45 Vivax wrote:
Anyone with a little fact checking realizes your quote collection is just there to sic me with very low, borderline ad hominem arguments.
Look if you wanna play like a mad rager I'm not the one who's going to reciprocate that, it's a waste of time. So leave scum, I will try to turn anything and everything you say against you because you are scum, and I expect you to do the same to me because you are scum. If your not up for that you dont have to play / ; just go afk like hopeless, well get around to you eventually. Also It's not nice when someone controls fs you out of context is it? But yeah seriously you've been keeping bh on the back burner all game, that's not slander, theres at least a dozen qoutes to prove it, you just read them. Its fact / : To start with one of the quotes is about GB and not BH. To end with I always suspect a ton of people. It's meta, not the scum one. I'm trying to get around the idea you're just a townie being a dick who likes to pick fights cause his time isn't worth much so he likes to waste it fighting instead of hunting scum. I'm not biting your hook. You can go for another wank or something, get rid of your excessive energy.
a quote about gb in which you throw in a crumb of bh -_- multitasking like a boss. How does that look good if you think gb is town? (you must cause I'm scum right, with crom and bh?)
Also stop being a douche : P, feel free to ignore me , or go lurk, or go wank off as you say, but no reason to be mean in place of actually arguing against me / :
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On October 31 2015 04:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2015 04:52 gumshoe wrote:On October 31 2015 04:45 ritoky wrote:On October 31 2015 04:41 gumshoe wrote:On October 31 2015 04:32 ritoky wrote:
i fully expect the shot to be on me or BH tonight, being that i am essentially mod confirmed town, and BH is probably the strongest player who is a top TR alive. anything else is pretty meh. You'll probally stick around cause of your self admittedly bad scum reads : p scummers might exploit that. I might actually die now but still seems unlikely with vivax coming after me. hey hey hey! i was the one who made the PoE list of GB, onegu, hopeless first!!!!! then i just went full bitch mode and backed out of it while everyone else realized it was a good idea...i have good reads, just a habit of talking myself out of them. regardless you have to shoot people who are unlynchable in lylo. if the team is anything but gb/x i am unlynchable. if it is gb/x there's a 1% chance someone does something stupid even though i am confirmed town. well see : P you've shown a propensity to panic as you say, scum needs a patzy and a dope at lylo (and gb wont work as he will either be scum or dead) so 100 percent town or not you might make a great dope : P procedurally i disagree with you about how to win lylo as mafia, but that's neither here nor there.
well lylo is scum convincing someone to lynch the other guy instead of them / : obviously scum want to think ahead so they probably groom for the role but yeah your right, not really a big deal.
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