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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 15:30 GMT
#548
On October 14 2015 22:21 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 22:06 Tictock wrote:
Ok I promised this, but I'm already rethinking some stuff. I'll be keeping up with the thread as I can at work, though I wont be able to post much till near EoD.

Probably Town
Rels - I should point out that Rels is a very strong scum player so people shouldn't give him an easy pass just because he's active. Still I have a hard time seeing him rolling scum 3 games in a row, and I'm not having any sneaking suspicions of him like I did in SoW2.
GlowingBear - I've agreed with most of his posts, he's not all over the place and causing confusion like I've seen him do as scum. Even the post where he suggested blues claim if they need to didn't feel like role hunting to me.

Town Lean
Koshi - Poked his head out way early, pretty active though most of it is complaining about the balance
deconduo - Joined the game late, made a decent reads post and was pretty much the first person to seriously push Cake. Probably would be a straight town read besides the fact he's been fairly inactive.
Sylencia - I'm actually not sure why I'm leaning town on Syl over straight null, something about his tone feels townie

Null
Onegu
CopCake
Superbia - I agree with GB, a couple of his posts felt towny. Continueing to throw out the "brb" thing after getting called out on it seems townie to me as well.
Alakaslam - Really not sure how to read Slam, he's low null right now because I don't have time to filter dive him and I don't recall anything he's done this game

Scum/Scum Lean
gobbledydook
MoosyDoosy
Xatalos


I didn't leave a note next to the people I've been discussing recently anyways.


If you liked my last post, why am I still top scum while CopCake/Sylencia (two of the main suspects) are town/null? Or was this just some post you prepared before and only posted now? Why not correct it before posting then?


I only said it wasn't a bad post and I read it right I as preparing the reads post, so didn't have time to properly look it over.

Actually I'd like to know a couple things about that post, I've been thinking it over a little at work (on a 10 atm).

You said your still uncertain about me, why? What are you seeing thats scummy?

What value do you think your list of non associated people has?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 15:31 GMT
#549
On October 14 2015 23:02 Superbia wrote:
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Gratz
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 17:44 GMT
#562
On October 14 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The thing that all of you seem to have difficulty understanding - is that there are 3 factions here. So using standard lists like narrowing it down to a few scum is useless. What you have to do - is find other people not in your faction and lynch them. There's no point in lists saying these people are Mafia because there is 3rd party here. Night will be interesting but it unfortunately looks like I won't be around for it. The thing is that I'm plenty sure that Superbia isn't town. And everyone that I've listed otherwise is probably 3rd party or Mafia. That's how I've been formulating my reads. I listed a bunch of people I didn't like because this isn't a 3 man team we have to kill, it's two different teams. On that note, the reason why I've been buddying with a bunch of different people is because they're useful even if they're not town with me. Even if we convince 3p to kill Mafia or Mafia to kill 3p it's still a gain for town. This is the correct mindset to have.

Which is why it's infinitely worse for those people who are trying to treat this like your classic game and try to act as townie as possible with standard lists (Superbia).


Rels and Sup already pointed out for me why this post is bad.

I don't think there is anyone who is confused about how this game is setup with 2- two man teams and a 9 persontown.

I dont understand why you only point out Sups list though, plenty of people have made lists this game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 17:52 GMT
#564
On October 15 2015 01:25 Xatalos wrote:
Btw I'm not sure how strict the rules for non-voting are, but CopCake's vote didn't count because it was only something like "#name". Or was it even a vote? Anyways, people should probably vote correctly before the deadline hits...

Tictock: I'm not really sure about you yet. Maybe a part of it could be the contradictory feelings about your push on me. On the other hand, it's hard to feel it being town-motivated when I'm town, but when you think about it, it's not like I'm a very good target to push for anti-town. The reasons also aren't absolute trash like some players (CopCake, MoosyDoosy etc.) have presented. Still I feel there's definitely a bias to present null-leaning things more negatively than they should be, but it's hard to say if that's town or anti-town tunneling for the time being.

The list's value isn't great right now, but I just wrote it down for later. At LYLO it could prove to be crucial, for example (as a piece to the puzzle of figuring out the factions).


Ok well, I was worried you were trying to draw more conclusions than you should from that list. While you may be correct that those particular pairings aren't likely it means little since a pair could still be both anti-town just noton the same team.

What am I pushing you for that you feel is null. The opening post thing is the only thing i can think that would fall under that.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 18:01 GMT
#566
Ok suprised thats all it took to get caught up.

If this comes down to a lynch between Moosy and Cake I think I have to go with moosy.

His read on Sup is shit, and whats worse it's exactly the same sorta meta read that he called Rels out for using. He's basing his entire read based one one past game.

Be back when I can.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 20:37 GMT
#612
On October 15 2015 03:35 deconduo wrote:
@Moosy, what do you mean exactly by the below?

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 21:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 14 2015 21:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Moosy can easily be with cake

I really really want to be. Also with you. We should totally make rayn give us a game where we're all scum again. This time I prmise not to double bus. maybe.~~


Cos it reads a bit like you want to be the same alignment as cake, but you know you're not.


GB, Moosy, and Cake were all a scumteam in a recent newbie game. Moosy bussed the hell out of Cake The whole game and managed to keep the towncred through lylo.

Pretty sure it doesn't really mean anything regarding this game.

Just my 2 cents.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 20:41 GMT
#613
On October 15 2015 03:57 Koshi wrote:
I take no responsibility in this CC lynch.


I feel this way too.

I don't have any real reason to town read her, and it's not easy to read some of her posts. But I have a strong gut feeling Cake flips town here.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 20:43 GMT
#614
On October 15 2015 04:32 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:56 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:51 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!

I'm thrall

This post made me go like "WTF I know something is wrong". I need to check stuff.

GB almost used the same opening last game:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town

It was actually his second post.

So this might indicate he's not-town replicating something he did as town last game. After all, if he's called out on that, he can always says "I did that to fish for reactions!"

Will see if he ever:
- did the same opening two times in a row as town, or
- did the same opening as mafia than the last time he was town


Ok, here he suspected GB.

I have already said why I did suspect GB btw, and is because we were mafia together last game and guess what? he should know my meta, and GB's one of his first posts was "what do you think of cake, Xata?" like HE KNOWS ME AND XATA HAVE PLAYED MAFIA BEFORE where the fuck does he has that info?

HUH HUH HUH HUH?

And you suspected GB yet you answered his questions, honestly when someone I think is mafia i tell them to shut up ans answer "me"


This is super weak Cake. Your assuming he asked because he knows something about your past. What if he just wanted to see what Xata's opinion was?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 20:47 GMT
#619
On October 15 2015 04:57 deconduo wrote:
Moosy is 100% the groupie.


Lol This was my thinking a long time ago. Bit less sure now though.

He prob flips anti-town though.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 20:51 GMT
#621
On October 15 2015 05:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 05:43 Tictock wrote:
On October 15 2015 04:32 CopCake wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:56 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:51 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!

I'm thrall

This post made me go like "WTF I know something is wrong". I need to check stuff.

GB almost used the same opening last game:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town

It was actually his second post.

So this might indicate he's not-town replicating something he did as town last game. After all, if he's called out on that, he can always says "I did that to fish for reactions!"

Will see if he ever:
- did the same opening two times in a row as town, or
- did the same opening as mafia than the last time he was town


Ok, here he suspected GB.

I have already said why I did suspect GB btw, and is because we were mafia together last game and guess what? he should know my meta, and GB's one of his first posts was "what do you think of cake, Xata?" like HE KNOWS ME AND XATA HAVE PLAYED MAFIA BEFORE where the fuck does he has that info?

HUH HUH HUH HUH?

And you suspected GB yet you answered his questions, honestly when someone I think is mafia i tell them to shut up ans answer "me"


This is super weak Cake. Your assuming he asked because he knows something about your past. What if he just wanted to see what Xata's opinion was?

The only way this makes GB scum is if he's scum with Xatalos right ? Or do I miss something. Cause that seems super dumb to me, in addition to not making sense with her "GB + Rels" theory


Yea this is true...

I'll ponder this in my last hour of work.

Cake if you are town you really need to explain what made you think GB and Rels were a team.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:12 GMT
#644
On October 15 2015 06:28 Xatalos wrote:
I don't really like the comments from Koshi/Tictock about "not taking responsibility". Why would you say that as town? To preserve your ego or something? Usually scum are more concerned about their credibility and launch those kinds of credibility-preserving lines when things are heated.


Its not like I haven't given reasons for why I don't really see her flipping anti-town or anything...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:20 GMT
#648
On October 15 2015 05:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's pretty great that I'm skating by with my terrible play and not getting lynched tbh.

If you guys want to do work, I'm still up for shenanigans onto Superbia/gobble/decon. gobble would be kind of a policy lynch though.


I'm pretty open to shenannieson gobble.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:25 GMT
#650
On October 15 2015 07:08 Superbia wrote:
Where is copcake? Who is around right now?


I'm here but distracted.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:27 GMT
#653
On October 15 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:20 Tictock wrote:
On October 15 2015 05:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's pretty great that I'm skating by with my terrible play and not getting lynched tbh.

If you guys want to do work, I'm still up for shenanigans onto Superbia/gobble/decon. gobble would be kind of a policy lynch though.


I'm pretty open to shenannieson gobble.


No?


Yea yea, decundo was right. Stupid idea in a majority lynch game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:29 GMT
#659
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:34 GMT
#667
On October 15 2015 07:28 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:27 Tictock wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 Tictock wrote:
On October 15 2015 05:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's pretty great that I'm skating by with my terrible play and not getting lynched tbh.

If you guys want to do work, I'm still up for shenanigans onto Superbia/gobble/decon. gobble would be kind of a policy lynch though.


I'm pretty open to shenannieson gobble.


No?


Yea yea, decundo was right. Stupid idea in a majority lynch game.


Why was it alluring to you?



I just have bad feels about the cop lynch. I don't really have a town read on her but have a hard time seeing her playing as anti town here.

Moosy is the better lynch imo.

A few of his posts make me wonder.

Gooble's vote on cop looked oppritunistic to me as well.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:40 GMT
#679
On October 15 2015 07:31 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy


Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy.

???



I just want to lynch one of my scumreads, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

I'm debating if I should move to cake just to make sure we dont no lynch.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:40 GMT
#680
Fuck, I dont like majority...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:49 GMT
#697
On October 15 2015 07:44 Xatalos wrote:
For example, right now CopCake could easily get no-lynched if just one switches away. I'd appreciate people ensuring the lynch before the deadline. Thanks.

If you prefer MoosyDoosy, state quickly why?


I've explained my reasons a few times. Moosy's only read push has been on Sup and his read was based on shit he berated Rels for being.

Cops reads are wierd but thy haev evolved, shes challenged people.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 14 2015 22:50 GMT
#699
Cake, why wont you switch to Moosy?
I can take that responsibility.
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