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Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 11:26 GMT

#172

Anybody with KP, please kill Xatalos this night.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 11:28 GMT

#175

As scum, he would have plenty of motivation to appease someone that just started accusing him, or misdirect the attention away, or something. He would likely show some sort of inconsistency when the situation suddenly changes. Instead, he continued doing whatever meaningless he was doing. He wasn't panicked about the situation, and his attitude was consistent. That's why I got the gut feeling he was town.

This is the dumbest defense of an instant vote 5 minutes in the game I ever read. No kidding. How would he do any of those things literally 5 posts in the game???????????? Which were Hallo, brb, town, Hi

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 11:30 GMT

#176

On October 13 2015 20:27 Xatalos wrote:

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On October 13 2015 20:25 Koshi wrote:

On October 13 2015 20:23 Xatalos wrote:

On October 13 2015 20:17 Koshi wrote:

On October 13 2015 20:06 Xatalos wrote:

On October 13 2015 20:00 Koshi wrote:
Seriously Xatalos. The explanation is standing in the damn vote. Moosy did completely nothing. He could be town doing completely nothing. Or he could be mafia doing completely nothing.

Town sometimes adds some silly plan in their first post, or try to do something. Mafia doesn't have do to shit so sometimes they forget they actually need to pretend to be town in the start.

Moosy didn't do shit. Hence. He could be mafia. Still didn't do shit when I poked him to do shit. Passive as fuck. Defensive. ezgame.

I am reading this forum on TL Dota so I have no filters. But I am probably 100% right.

I got the opposite picture? He didn't really do anything, but he seemed pretty relaxed despite your attack (not defensive / worried). And I think Mafia very rarely just "forget they need to pretend to look town". Rather, it's much more likely that Mafia do something at least resembling an okayish starter while townies often just explode.

Everything you wrote here has nothing to do with the current situation.
You even fucking contradict your read on Moosy and your expectation what a townie would do.

Sure. Some mafia make an OK starting post. Those are the mafia that understand that to look townie you need to start doing some minor shit. The shit mafia or trash 3p don't do that. Moosy didn't do that HENCE he is mafia.
QED

Looking "Not worried" and "not defensive" is not alignment indicative at all. I gave him a reason to do something. Instead he continued to do nothing. Like literally nothing.

Could Moosy be town that decided to do literally nothing? Sure. He could be. Do I care? No. Was he my best bet on mafia? Yes. Is he still my best bet of mafia? Maybe, depends if this Xatalos guy decides to play dumb.

I don't think that "doing something" or "playing according to someone else's wishes" is what makes someone townie, especially in the first page of the game or so. What could he have been "doing" exactly? The game had just started.

What really matters is the consistency and motivation of someone's posts. Let's see... As scum, he would have plenty of motivation to appease someone that just started accusing him, or misdirect the attention away, or something. He would likely show some sort of inconsistency when the situation suddenly changes. Instead, he continued doing whatever meaningless he was doing. He wasn't panicked about the situation, and his attitude was consistent. That's why I got the gut feeling he was town.

WE WERE 5 MINUTES IN THE GAME. YOU W0T M8??????????????????????????

I repeat the question: what do you think he should have been "doing" at that time? You constantly insult "tryhards", but when someone doesn't tryhard in the first minutes of the game, he's 100% scum. That's the kind of inconsistency in attitude I don't like :/

You cannot read. It is hopeless.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 11:31 GMT

#178

It's ok Xatalos. I am just on a different level than you.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 11:35 GMT

#185

For people who don't understand my vote.

Moosy has a 30% chance to be scum after the first page.

That I don't believe Moosy to be 100% scum after 5 posts should not be a fucking surprise to you. That it is a very ambitious vote should be obvious.

If you go "That vote looked really flimpsy" I don't believe this guy actually had Moosy pinned as scum, I should vote this guy instead because he is probably mafia" then you are bad.

Koshi out for

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 13:07 GMT

#227

On October 13 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:

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Man. This seems to make sense, but your scenario 1 is super flawed: you take the CPR doc probably killing town into the equation but not CPR doc killing not-town, or saving someone, or the medic saving someone. Plus we can never be sure we are in scenario 2, since 3P can hide the alignement of the kills.
If we play perfectly and lynch not-town everyday + protect succesfully, we win. For that to happen, I agree that CPR doc needs to be good. The guy can either be a disaster, or chose between being a vig or a medic.

These 2 scenarios are opposites of the spectrum, but even likely to happen than the 5876549876548975643548754 possibilities between them. This game is random. It might become a fun game. But it is random.

D2 will be 50% chance we start playing. D3 95% that we start playing.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 13:49 GMT

#236

##vote Tictock
One of the tryhards is actually compelling. Unlike the other tryhard.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 13:50 GMT

#237

##unvote: Ticktock
##vote: Tictock

I have no idea how the bot works

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 13:50 GMT

#238

##unvote
##vote: Tictock

3rd time good time

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 17:04 GMT

#267

On October 14 2015 01:22 Tictock wrote:
Anyways would like to know what Xat and Koshi find scummy about me, or if they are just sheeping Rels meta case without checking things themselves.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 17:10 GMT

#270

GB logic:

I am town and I fully comprehend the arguments brought against TT and I find them to be reasonable and believable, I could even follow them. However, I don't understand how 2 other people are voting for TT. Very suspicious by them. Because when they read the arguments that were fully reasonable and believable they should not have believed them and should not have pressured TT at all.

I think both Xatalos and Koshi are very suspicious for jumping on this TT wagon based on very reasonable and believable arguments.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 17:11 GMT

#271

aka GB is probably town. Hopefully he wasn't the person calling me insane previously.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 17:13 GMT

#273

No seriously.

He can get behind the wagon on TT except for the fact that there are already 2 people on the wagon, who actually most likely believed the same thing GB believed but didn't have the hesitance of somebody already being on the wagon.

Then GB proceeds to call these 2 people suspicious.

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Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 17:17 GMT

#277

3 votes on a person is suspicious? When the arguments against this person are arguments you can get behind? When no other wagons are being pushed?

SURE GB. SURE.

I am afk till D2.
This is pointless.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 21:30 GMT

#337

##Vote MoosyDoosy
Could vote GB as well. Too dumb and wants to lynch me.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 21:31 GMT

#338

inb4 GB finds it suspicious that the wagon on TT is falling apart and votes TT.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 13 2015 21:33 GMT

#339

Seriously. I still cannot phantom GB called it suspicious that 3 people voted for 1 guy while he agreed with the reasoning and would consider voting the guy himself. In a game with 13 people with mafia team that consists of 2 people.

Mind blowing.