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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:45 GMT
#255
On October 13 2015 20:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Good afternoon. Koshi, sson

You gotta remember you even hate on your own balance work

Now that I am busy setting facts straight. ↑This is a lie.
Only in voice mafia I made a small judgement error.

Sson you helped develop the balance of imperial, forgot you had done that, and hated on the balance afterward XD
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:48 GMT
#256
On October 13 2015 20:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam bein carefree doesn't make him town

Precision

Don't expect to read me but please try as hard as you can, kthx
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:49 GMT
#257
On October 13 2015 20:35 Xatalos wrote:
At some point in time I think Koshi was a very calm and analytical player. Dunno what happened since then, but something must have broken him lol

Yes

I can't remember what it was but the hypocrisy is deep and prolific
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:51 GMT
#258
On October 13 2015 20:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1

I completely disagree with this:
1 - lynching anti town > lynching town
2 - if it's that obvious he will "get rewarded with a bullet", why wouldn't it be obviously rewarded with a medic prot

Nonono shhhhhh.

You need him to dig deeper before burial.

Shh. You will tip him off that he cannot get to China this way...

He will simply reach madagascar
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:51 GMT
#260
On October 13 2015 20:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Xata what do you think of Cake?


I'll reserve my judgment until later since last time I played with her she was like the towniest player in the game (tone/attitude-wise) but was scum after all :D

This pheeeeeer
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:53 GMT
#261
On October 13 2015 21:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 11:54 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1

This dude looks like a cop-out artist here

Why

What is the true motive for this post?

What do you think it is ?

Sson rhetorical question

Go read the OP he is not actually wrong.

HIJOLE con shit
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:53 GMT
#262
On October 13 2015 21:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 13:37 CopCake wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote:
Brb.


Why do you need to write this?



On October 13 2015 10:21 gobbledydook wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote:
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.


It is the first page
Courteous greeting for Koshi
You think he is scum?


Hello anti town people


GB is town
Alakasamboombam is town
Dont stop make it pop tik tok is town.

are you serious. I had to go back to check

GB's posts at the time:
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 13 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!

I'm thrall

On October 13 2015 10:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1


You make things easier.

##vote: Koshi

On October 13 2015 10:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow what a boring start


Slam's posts at the time:
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 13 2015 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Good afternoon. Koshi, sson

You gotta remember you even hate on your own balance work

On October 13 2015 09:06 Alakaslam wrote:
I found the perfect corny cheese video for what I expect to happen here


On October 13 2015 10:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 10:56 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!

I'm thrall


I assume you are referring to [image loading]

In which case you used the correct color.

But since you didn't capitalize you could also mean one of these...
[image loading]

Or your telling us you are a slave or surf and have no social standing what-so-ever. In which case I can't be seen talking to you.

Spoken with precision

On October 13 2015 11:34 Alakaslam wrote:
What a dead thread!

Guess I will go really read and reread Koshi's dramas

On October 13 2015 11:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1

This dude looks like a cop-out artist here

Why

What is the true motive for this post?


TT's posts at the time:
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 13 2015 10:56 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!

I'm thrall


I assume you are referring to [image loading]

In which case you used the correct color.

But since you didn't capitalize you could also mean one of these...
[image loading]

Or your telling us you are a slave or surf and have no social standing what-so-ever. In which case I can't be seen talking to you.

On October 13 2015 11:17 Tictock wrote:
So I was stupid today guys...

I agreed to pickup an extra shift at work tomorrow morning

I'll poke in once or twice more before bed, but i gotta try and get to sleep soon. Will have a decent chunk of time to sink in after i get done with that though.



Explain your town reads.

Sson I am so town you don't even know I am town
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:56 GMT
#263
On October 13 2015 22:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 21:56 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 21:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 13 2015 21:43 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 21:37 GlowingBear wrote:
What do you think of Koshi, rels?

Slight not-town lean. I don't like him saying "if I try hard and get a mafia / 3P lynched I'll bite a bullet", completely forgetting we have two medics.


At this point, you would prefer to lynch tic tock over him?

100%. Might evolve as I finish to catch up though.

Koshi is actually evolving towards town for this:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 19:53 Koshi wrote:
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION for people who can't read between lines.

It would be pretty cool to lynch anti-town. But playing on D1 random and not rewarding. There is a chance this game will become interesting D2. D1 it is pure shit. D2 has a 50% chance to still be shit.

I don't agree with him but his idea is understandable + he's explaining it and pushing it pretty hard.

-_- you pawn

Here, do my bidding:

Read Onegu.

...

Be not swayed by the wind
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:59 GMT
#266
On October 14 2015 01:51 GlowingBear wrote:
I've reevaluated Koshi and I think he is most likely town. A very stupid one. Stop using numbers when playing a rhetoric game.

Moosy stands to me like town. I think uninterested play is very suicidal for mafia. There is no mafia motivation to keep posting like he is. Here is the best example where I don't see mafia motivation behind a post:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of like how I'm doing nothing and yet I'm still alive.


Also here: + Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 08:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm kind of wondering if CopCake still hates me. o-o I hope she doesn't.


Same with Slam, but in a smaller degree. The fact that he states he is bored makes me think he is excited to catch mafia. I mean, there was no need to rant like in here + Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 11:34 Alakaslam wrote:
What a dead thread!

Guess I will go really read and reread Koshi's dramas
if he is mafia. He would just sit back and let the thread be silent.

I dislike Cake for the unexplained townreads.

I dislike Sylencia for a couple of posts. This one seems so forced + Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 14:40 Sylencia wrote:
The more haikus made
The more I want to kill you
JK, good gimmick

Also CopCake, how does that 1 line make Superbia anti-town?

The joke is so off. The focused question is also so off. She gave a lot of reads, why is he focusing only on Superbia?

(I'm on page 7 and cba to keep reading, gonna do that later again)

GB man of skill why are the foolish lynching ticktock? I fail to comprehend the gibbering
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 17:51 GMT
#280
On October 14 2015 02:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam what do you think of rels?

Rels is good but he is playing a vanilla game.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 17:53 GMT
#281
On October 14 2015 02:13 Koshi wrote:
No seriously.

He can get behind the wagon on TT except for the fact that there are already 2 people on the wagon, who actually most likely believed the same thing GB believed but didn't have the hesitance of somebody already being on the wagon.

Then GB proceeds to call these 2 people suspicious.

[image loading]

Sson it doesn't make denotative sense but the connotation is ok

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 17:54 GMT
#282
On October 14 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi if you really get AFK I will lynch you

You won't be able to. Rels has destruido
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 17:58 GMT
#283
Copcake 아유다 매
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 17:59 GMT
#284
On October 14 2015 02:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Copcake 아유다 매

Btw I promised I wouldn't English with that

Not Spanish

I am Spanishing

+ Show Spoiler +
because that's actually worse, I said "help me"
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 20:45 GMT
#315
On October 14 2015 03:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 02:51 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 14 2015 02:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam what do you think of rels?

Rels is good but he is playing a vanilla game.

That's how you play the setup. D1 you want to lynch not town; starting D2 we can make the difference between mafia and 3p.

You don't know what I am saying exactly, but this is better...
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 20:48 GMT
#316
On October 14 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 04:57 Tictock wrote:
So this caught my eye when I first read it. I held off commenting right away kus I know Rels often does opening post analysis, and wanted to see if he'd catch it too.

Basically the idea is that scum are unsure how to open and will often spend extra time on their first posts and talk about multiple subjects.

Xat's open practically screamed that to me.

On October 13 2015 19:24 Xatalos wrote:
Btw if you want to see the up-to-date votecount then it's here at all times: https://mafia-votecount.herokuapp.com/#495390-crossfire-mafia

I truly hope the VT claims are from anti-town parties / blues since otherwise it's just, frankly, playing against your win condition. It'd be preferable if nobody claimed roles D1 or even after that without good reason.

On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1


This felt a bit wrong to me. What I mean is the fact that Koshi was primarily concerned about his own life and while saying that town's position is bad (which should lead to the conclusion that it's time to play well), he concludes that he's going to lurk.. Which left me with the feeling that rather than having good lynches, he just wanted to avoid getting shot. The strongest motivation for that would be if he's anti-town. It's still possible that he's blue or something, but if that's the case, then it's pretty bad play to announce your survival instinct so clearly (making it less likely that you're a VT).

Also Koshi: I don't agree that town is underpowered. The anti-towns can kill each other as well, and we have 2 (kind of) Medics in the game. Well, it is a bit random that way.


That's 4 different topics, 3 if you combine anything related to Koshi.
1-Votecount link
2- VT Claims, No Claims
3- Quote and scumread on Koshi
4- Town not underpowered

The quote in 3 was also brought up by Slam earlier, same bolding even, but maybe that's weak.

This might hold even better given that it has been sometime since Xat played here+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 19:46 Xatalos wrote:
Here's the current nicknames list if you're interested: https://github.com/Xatalos/mafia-votecount/blob/master/resources/public/js/nicknames.js

I've played my couple of last games on Vendetta Strada. Last time I played here... Was this one I think: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia

Yeah I agree that Slam is feeling very carefree/relaxed. Which usually leans towards town...

How did you come to that townread list btw?
and could very well be concerned about his open if he rolled scum.

Also his defense of Moosy felt a little off, as did his early town read+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 19:33 Xatalos wrote:
My gut feeling is that MoosyDoosy is town. If you ask me why? It's because he's taking it so easy while being accused. I think it's a bit more likely to become defensive or even over-react somehow if you're actually not town, rather than joke around. Especially since there are several anti-town factions, it's even more dangerous for you if votes get piled on you...

. Especially given that he says this
On October 13 2015 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
Still, basically there's never a reason not to play as town. Only scum(/anti-town) benefits from a silent thread. And it even makes the game MORE random since there's less to work with.


Moosy's filter defines silent btw, half of his page is pre-game.

On October 13 2015 20:12 Xatalos wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:09 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote: Sylencia


Oh yeah... This was mostly because I disliked his style of just cautiously/briefly popping into the thread to make some semi-useless comment, then disappear. That and the fact that others who had posted so far had at least something town-leaning going for them.


That's quite a bit of picking and choosing in how he applies this logic.

So yea, this guy has been my top scumread for quite some time, and I'm fairly sure Xata flips non-town here.

##Vote: Xatalos



Well yeah, at this point MoosyDoosy's inactivity is starting to get irritating. I still get the feeling that anti-town wouldn't blatantly make themselves suspicious like that... Or generally just act without care for their own survival. In my experience people like that are usually town who get easily mislynched by scum. *Rarely* there are cases where scum take that as their strategy and WIFOM themselves out of suspicion... I kind of doubt MoosyDoosy is going for such a high-risk play.

Out of curiosity, when did I become your top scumread? You haven't really even mentioned me before that, but you said "for a long time". The case is kind of a cherry-picked gathering of pretty null-leaning things as well.

Not sure how talking about several topics in your opening is really scummy. Many people have done that.

why? Read firefly newbie student
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 21:05 GMT
#323
On October 14 2015 06:02 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 05:23 Rels wrote:
Actually it only means something if xatalos and moosy are in a team together. Otherwise that illogical defense of Moosy is without a purpose. So by voting xatalos you're also suspecting moosy to be his teammate ?


It's possible. I'm not sure it's that easy though.

I know I'd be pretty leery of making an obvious connection like that, however I'd be quite willing to associate myself with someone not on my team...

Is now a good time to mention I have some weird tin foil ideas about this game?

I doubt it matters much day 1
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 21:26 GMT
#336
Hmm.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 21:53 GMT
#348
On October 14 2015 06:39 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way if you're blue DO NOT overvalue your role. Don't stay in the shadows. PLAY THE GAME. It is better to have you shot at night than having you in the center of the suspicions.

Although this is good advice this is scummy to say; it is a pretty ingenious way to bluefish. But there is wifom
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 21:53 GMT
#349
On October 14 2015 06:42 deconduo wrote:
I wish copcake would stop disappearing without answering questions.

Agreed.
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