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On September 26 2015 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: tbh, rsoul was my coach in my first ever TL Mafia game so........guess who I learned from? oh god. Dont make me regret this you bads | ||
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Def shadow me ill at least entertain | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote: Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below. Requirements: A good person to team up with Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy Must not ignore my posts or talk over me must have a good voice and be funny and like walks Please apply for my townfriend scummiest post I have ever read lol | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote: By the way: O hai! I'm town oh look its green guys nothing to see here | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: hi sl did you roll mafia again? yes | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote: And why won't it last? because i dont even understand it and the day is only 1% over. you will find something else I never understood why people vote 1 minute into a game and then change it 19 times | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:34 Damdred wrote: Because anyone who isn't town would be scared to be associated with me duh are you calling me town? this is awkward. | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:35 GlowingBear wrote: What kind of answer were you expecting when you asked this? Ask rayn hes the king of stupid qeustions and somehow making up a random read thats wrong off them | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:38 Damdred wrote: People just don't get me. If I have to be serious its implied that it has to be town since its called a town friend. Please use brains I get that your a jester this game. brb reading op | ||
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On September 29 2015 07:53 Trfel wrote: Town lean on you (GlowingBear) Sort of town lean on LightningStrike Sort of town lean on raynpelikoneet Sort of mafia lean on rsoultin I haven't been paying much attention, though. Going to go get dinner now, I'll actually read the thread sometime tonight.... whats your reason for town reading rayn. Im just curious because I think I know why that moron scum read me and it might make him ok | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote: That my friend is the right question! What do you think? apparently baits are always maifa so you should probably say its not | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:22 J Roc wrote: J Roc is here Nowatimsayin Rayn and SL hardcore bussing each other to start the game, both think it is funny to claim mafia when they are actually mafia. Trfel why do you have a town read on Rayn? rayn didnt claim mafia you not reading | ||
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rayn wouldnt bus me hes not retarded he wants to win | ||
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On September 29 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote: you're not doing yourself any favors with posts like these who cares they dont make me mafia | ||
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On September 29 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote: nothing you've done has made you town are you going to participate in the game or not? Sometimes you dont want to be town. yes I believe I have been playing quite alot for a day 1 | ||
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On September 29 2015 10:30 LightningStrike wrote: Tfrel did this in Student V when he was scum lol........ good to know. | ||
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On September 29 2015 08:22 J Roc wrote: J Roc is here Nowatimsayin Rayn and SL hardcore bussing each other to start the game, both think it is funny to claim mafia when they are actually mafia. Trfel why do you have a town read on Rayn? this post is so bad I dont even know where to begin. 1. My rayn read is still open but I said i think I know his thought process suggesting he is town. Im waiting to talk to him. SO i can not be bussing him if im not scum reading him. 2. rayn did not claim mafia he claimed he wanted to role mafia. | ||
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Not reading the thread = mafia. I should know I role mafa alot | ||
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On September 29 2015 09:46 J Roc wrote: I am getting more and more tunneled on my Rayns/sl reads the more I think about it. The fact that SL comes in says Rayns didn't claim mafia when he did kinda just Urks me. he didnt tho. he claimed he wanted to be mafia. Its a big difference. I honestly think we have a mafia here to be wrong on the two facts you bring up would 99% means you barely read the thread which makes one mafia. | ||
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On September 29 2015 10:53 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry I didn't know you get mad at people when they try to fix your errors :| <3 did you know that j roc is mafia? or at least currently worth the lynch | ||
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On September 29 2015 11:07 Damdred wrote: Stop being bitter you don't win often as mafia SL. thats not what im saying at all. This site is really the cool kid club for both alignments ;p | ||
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2. I Called out jrocs/dandreds opening posts as scummy. 3. I said I understand why rayn scum reads me and I wanted to talk to him about it becuase I think I see his thought process. + Show Spoiler + Its becuase I was trying to wifmo him hard postgame last game so he is going to be super suspect and think im doing it here. (even tho i did yell you the real scumteam in my last post rayn..) | ||
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On September 29 2015 17:08 coolTLname wrote: Uh anyway i've been looking at sicklurker. For some reason i thought he was blue but hes been spewing tons of nonsense, he claims hes "drinking" and he seems sad i guess, but even more reason to post something meaningful .. @_@ marvelous would be mafia if hes good in other games, i guess i should check. role hunting 101 | ||
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On September 30 2015 10:26 Damdred wrote: He's played with SL once... And he actually has a point on ls though he didn't just sheep rayns case either. So he has that going for him no he diddnt maybe that game I subed out of day 1 | ||
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because lynching townies you think could be a blue role (your own words) is not the play | ||
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On September 29 2015 17:08 coolTLname wrote: Uh anyway i've been looking at sicklurker. For some reason i thought he was blue but hes been spewing tons of nonsense, he claims hes "drinking" and he seems sad i guess, but even more reason to post something meaningful .. @_@ marvelous would be mafia if hes good in other games, i guess i should check. have you ever been drunk or sick? I dont see why your first post is calling me a lurker when I was probably in the middle of the pact on post count. theres guys like scott rels shining with 0 posts | ||
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On September 29 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: no marv. you literally know all this here is 100% bullshit, and considering this guy is a smurf you should be extremely concerned about what he says here. and you are not. nice rayn can be town | ||
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Rayn was super emo alll game never posted and yelled at us thinking we were playing bad and going to lose. But he still didnt bus us despite thinking we played horrible. Rayn subbed out and I helped carry us to victory and we got nomited for best scum team. lolz rayn The point is rayn didnt bus me even when he thought we were going to lose the game and we were playing like shit. Its dumb because were not even mafia together but its good to call out bullshit | ||
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On September 30 2015 11:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: no, scott just magically started posting in the game. you think i remember the player list bro? | ||
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On September 29 2015 19:06 marvellosity wrote: it's not a misphrase, you cow everything you said was wrong the way to read me town has never been to "pile votes on marv early". that's something only sicklucker says because he's sicklucker. you should know a lot, lot, lot better than to think just voting for me is a productive use of time early d1. you really, really should. having a massive strop about it doesn't make it any better either i thought it was proven wrong because you didnt give up 1 game as mafia. you did give up two or 3 previous games tho it was a sound theory i stand by it | ||
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On September 29 2015 20:18 rsoultin wrote: ye no one reads me very well lol >< i have to try to think of who is deluded enough and has had enough success at it to justify the delusion? yamato might be worth adding to the list...i'm not sure jat is i dunnae blah i can't tell -_- your really not that hard to read... | ||
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Town MoosyDoosy raynpelikoneet shining LightningStrike The null Gb Marv Rels The scummy everyone else you know who you are be better or dont role scum | ||
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On September 30 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: sicklucker basically called himself scum. gb: rayn who is with you in scum QT? rayn: marv, JRoc JRoc´: rayn likes to claim scum as scum sl: but rayn didn't claim scum someone: yes he did sl: no someone: yes sl: no sl: people not reading the thread = mafia  you claiming scum was very small almost not even there. I just thought he was talking about you saying you wanted to be mafia | ||
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On September 30 2015 06:13 Rels wrote: I think I like scott's reads sadly i do too. but like jroc rage quit when he was busted | ||
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On September 30 2015 12:24 Trfel wrote: So I'm scum for being suspicious of you now, and not earlier, for posts that you made after I left, and only saw in the past two hours or so? And then you insult my play, and then call me a strong town player? You can't have it both ways. i also complimented you! well yesterday you ignored me it was only after you had 4 votes on you that you seemed interested in anything I had to say or have said. | ||
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On September 29 2015 09:18 Trfel wrote: Read my filter, I've posted basically all of my thoughts (even if it's not really explained). I'm going to be specifically looking at everyone who has posted, with the possible exception of sicklucker. Hope that helps you! Here you specifically state you are not trying to read me lolz On September 30 2015 11:03 Trfel wrote: Does anyone else want to lynch sicklucker? 1 hour ago (when your the leading wagon) out of no where you bring my name up almost as if your seeing if there is any interest in lynching me and not you. THESE ARE YOUR ONLY MENTIOINS OF ME IN YOUR FILTER BEFORE THAT. You cant make up lies like "well i was not in the thread" you had 30 some hours lol | ||
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On September 30 2015 12:24 Trfel wrote: So I'm scum for being suspicious of you now, and not earlier, for posts that you made after I left, and only saw in the past two hours or so? And then you insult my play, and then call me a strong town player? You can't have it both ways. tref is lying here guys... thoughts? | ||
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tref post timeline ---- -------- --------- --------- something like that but hes on and off is the point Trefel makes no comments about me untill about just before I retrun. He claims he was not here to make comments on me before that but clearly he was because I JUST SLEPT FOR 16 HOURS LOLZ. Like all my content was at the start of the game. He is caught in a lie | ||
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On September 30 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote: nah he was awol for a long chunk, too can we please talk about something that actually makes people scum @.@ i want to lynch marv or scott possibly rels -bounces- he was here longer then me tho. I was gone for like 20hours + he even made a post where he said he didnt bother to read me. then when hes getting lynch he says "hey guys what about sicklucker?" He never mentions a read on me in the entire thread and even says hes not going to bother to. But when hes up for lynch now he mentions me. hummmm? | ||
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On September 30 2015 12:50 Damdred wrote: Can we lynch ls or GB instead dandred tref scum team confirmed. damn im good | ||
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but those posts you just made is the mafia path | ||
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On September 30 2015 12:50 Trfel wrote: Someone please talk to me about sicklucker... This feels sort of apologetic, almost a little scared of me? Sicklucker should never be scared of me, ever... And this progression simply doesn't make sense. Argument aside. Here is his progression: Semi-friendly worded clarification Don't try to spin things, depending on how you answer this I might vote for you Trfel is lying, everyone please talk about this (before he answers) Which is a completely nonsensical progression. Town should never, ever act like this. As for the argument itself, I had no opinion of sicklucker last night. I have an opinion of sicklucker now because he did scummy things in between last night, when I stopped reading the thread, and tonight, when I have been reading the thread again. Which is exactly what I stated in my previous post. He chooses to say that I was in the thread and that I was lying for no reason at all? When talking politely to me a few minutes before? I just don't see any town thought process in this at all. do you not know me? i always work shit out in my head as I post not before. Scott said it better himself im town because my thoughts are free flowing and thats what they are here. | ||
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On September 30 2015 13:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: mmm...well to be honest I'm fine with not lynching Trfel or coolTLname today but rayn is one that I really want to look into. I don't think we should lynch marv/scott today either mostly for null reasons but I did have a few reservations about Rels. LightningStrike is a solid null for me and I'm a bit confused about GB. Damdred, can you explain LS/GB for me plzerino? >> me and rayn mind melded multiple times im sure hes town | ||
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On September 30 2015 12:41 sicklucker wrote: Dear trefel dont try to spin this Here you specifically state you are not trying to read me lolz 1 hour ago (when your the leading wagon) out of no where you bring my name up almost as if your seeing if there is any interest in lynching me and not you. THESE ARE YOUR ONLY MENTIOINS OF ME IN YOUR FILTER BEFORE THAT. You cant make up lies like "well i was not in the thread" you had 30 some hours lol like this post is all you need. That first post was your only mention of me in your filter. saying you were not around is at least an excuse if not a blantant lie. Then you try to spin votes on me when you have all the votes | ||
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Hope that helps you!][/b] - trefel | ||
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mine are 18edt -24edt but most of the posts were before 21 edt when you left if you wanna get specific yes you would have missed like 6 of my posts but its all too convenient. | ||
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On September 30 2015 13:36 Trfel wrote: Let's see, it's been three and a half hours since I came back, and I'm still trying to read the thread. I'm a very slow player. So yes, I start posting about things before I fully catch up. My point is that you were gone for a reasonably long period of time. So when I say that I was gone for a reasonably long period of time, why do you immediately insist that I am lying? then you didnt read my posts? ;p | ||
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The point is your dodging the important stuff like how you deflecting and bringing this somewhere I had no intention of it going. My main issue as I started this terrible event is that you were trying to see if there was any interest in lynching me without knowing much about my alignment. Its like if im up for lynch I need someone else to get lynched and why not pick the guy who has been mafia in his last 9/10 games because thats a very easy mislynch in theory. | ||
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On September 30 2015 11:03 Trfel wrote: Does anyone else want to lynch sicklucker? On September 30 2015 11:12 Trfel wrote: I might be willing to lynch marvellosity...... Maybe? Ish? But I'd really rather someone talk to me about sicklucker  like these are the posts that struck me. You had 3-4 votes on you and your asking the thread what they think about me. The guy you have no read and because you have not went back and read the thread yet. | ||
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On September 30 2015 21:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: wow, this kind of hurts, especially because I have a feeling in the following posts I'm going to read, you're going to try to lynch me again off of the reasoning that "Moosy can't be this dumb". after I flip town you're going to send me another bm PM saying I played terribly lol. but if this is what's going to run this course then I'm fine with it. the trick is to send rayn bm pms first | ||
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On September 30 2015 22:09 MoosyDoosy wrote: does anyone else want to lynch lightningstrike now? no way he makes the cutest posts. I love how he comments on people fighting each other. - non alignment reasons | ||
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On September 30 2015 22:15 marvellosity wrote: why no more votes on rsoultin? i donno trefel did an equally scummy thing. He said he went back and found reasons to scum read me and then he later said he was not caught up in the thread so therefor he could not have acualy read them. All while trying to deflect onto me | ||
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On September 30 2015 22:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: i think i solved the game. plz fill us in oh great 1 | ||
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On September 30 2015 22:24 rsoultin wrote: you still voting truffle for "lying"? do you have an opinion at all over what's gone on in the last several pages? i would sheep marv on you in a heartbeat just because hes marv not because I accrual know whats going on. but I would still prefer my lynch | ||
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On September 30 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote: like seriously...he was right on me LATE my first scumgame after realizing i'd hard pocketed him...i was previously his top town that is the only time i'd say is comparable to this one and it's not remotely similar? just because the one time he tunneled me he was right doesn't make him right now @.@ he's not one of the better players at reading me by a longshot. course there really aren't any lol the point is actually evaluate his case and decide from there his case is just that i changed my read on him and nitnoidisms from earlier that he'd already dropped and were tonal it's not a case on scum, and it's not strong, but regardless you should want to evaluate it for yourself @.@ oh you shouldnt have said that | ||
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On September 30 2015 22:44 rsoultin wrote: that's true. congratulations i still pocketed you and you've still been wrong on me or uncertain on me countless times since this is no reason to believe you're good at reading me ^^ do you disagree that your case should speak for itself? scummy anger | ||
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On September 30 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: lol why not? cause dumb people will not notice the logical fallacy and follow it anyway? lol if i get lynched i will enjoy mocking you for your shit ass "certainty" and refusal to look at anyone else in the game and i will refer back to this game LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME you attempt to say you have a good read on me because it means marv is 1 - 0 in this spot and that makes me want to vote you even more | ||
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feels like this could have been said in the scum qt lol. maybe your not partners | ||
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marv did things between this post and your scumread of him. The two main things are him defending Trfel and attacking Moosy, both things you're in agreement with" is that true? | ||
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On September 30 2015 23:04 rsoultin wrote: i didn't forget my fucking reads! i changed my read! well regardless thats certainly what a scum would say if they slipped pointless point | ||
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"i said a push worth pushing...obviously there's some subjectivity involved here he clearly started pushing moosy for voting for him then when off on moosy saying cool "scared" him...which just isn't anything worthwhile imo like even if moosy were scum, why would he be scared of cool? it's definitely not a scum slip and implies just what moosy said it implied...that moosy was calling cool scummy or scum in other words, no, i did not find that push noteworthy or worthy of marv as a player...i liked him voting for moosy cause i was scumreading moosy, nothing more. the sexy comment was mostly for his response to rayn's bitching and the vote, not the argument" | ||
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On September 30 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote: except my posts make it clear that i changed my read and didn't just forget? like seriously? Did you not make the reason after? if not im sorry | ||
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On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote: the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment that is a pretty big jump | ||
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didnt you say something like "your not scum but im voting you anyway" | ||
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On October 01 2015 01:57 scott31337 wrote: I was referring to SL about the confirmed town thing. Normally he's all "I'm conftown, Im confirmed town scrubs, etc" Wow. ![[image loading]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1050826/jeff-dunham-peanut-o.gif) well i am | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:13 rsoultin wrote: your j roc read just wasn't really convincing me? you do buss. the unnecessary thing is subjective...so while i get why you think that statement is wrong and i agree for the most part, i can also see where someone would come to that conclusion without their being mafia for it rayn would never put pressure on me like that for no reason at the start of day one. from that we both called bullshit. he might bus but hes not gonna start bussing from 1 hour in on my first posts. It was total bs. im not sure why me and rayn have been paired up by both newbs/smurfs when were never a team the way he treated me at the start of the game | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:19 rsoultin wrote: if you both were town you mean? like i do 100% get why what j roc claimed was eh but i don't really see why that necessarily makes him mafia? it makes him wrong i dunnae why i'm even arguing this cause i don't have a townread on j roc/scott i'm just not sure why y'all are so certain @.@ i mean i just smurfed as mafia. what i did was alot like what jroc did. make alot of bullshit up. Everypost he made was complete crap. Its really easy to spout nonsense when no one knows who you are | ||
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literally everyone but like 2 people. | ||
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i donno I could be wrong. He posted it right after me and trefel said alot of things | ||
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On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote: I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway. I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey. I'm hard claiming. weird that someone would sub out of a power role. looks like we killin cool | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote: i really, really think gb is mafia i don't know why he goes on cool instead of on me, i'll admit that but i just don't get how he's been approaching this day phase at all if he's town. he doesn't seem to give a flip at all? that's mind-boggling to me to come from a town gb, even on vacation, especially when he's actually posting ive been in games where gb didnt play for 4 day cycles. as town... that epic 700 page game I forget | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: there is no way this post is true unless he knows scott has claimed. huh? seems fine to me assuming he has not caught up | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: there is literally no point were tina, scott and coolTLname have been the lynch targets. no no no. ahhh i mean honestly those were the three if you dont count trefel | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:08 rsoultin wrote: ...you're actually right...the voting thread is still very scattered he'd have to be reading the thread to come to the conclusion that it's between the three of us, wouldn't he? well he would have to be pretty close to caught up. when was his last post? | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:10 Damdred wrote: Hmmmm.... what did Scott claim while I was driving 1 shot tracker.... kinda ironic not gonna say why... | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote: It's kinda hilarious Scott gets tracker and claims 1 shot two gams in a row. ............................................... + Show Spoiler + IDIOT | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:16 LightningStrike wrote: So it seems like doesn't care about association voting hmm. since when did you care about that? | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:16 rsoultin wrote: ... i think we've gone into sl land where i don't know what he's on about again :/ that was kind of the point | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote: well the simple fact of my filter and everyone here knows i've been here all fucking day should be proof enough -_- i don't even know if i can get a gb lynch, moosy fucked off again and people keep talking about other things this is so weird. you can make gb the second wagon with your vote. but you dont do it and you scum read him? | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:50 marvellosity wrote: the scott claim could so easily be fake if mafia have framer/gf role you can make a punt that town has a cop and not a tracker but i don't have the jeebies to lynch him maybe he could also fake as town... which tbh is what i had planned i wouldnt put it past him. did you read the op. theres a mafia bluekilling mechanism. | ||
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On October 01 2015 06:54 marvellosity wrote: i'd love to lynch trfel total apathy towards this lynch but no time im voting him for the stats | ||
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On October 01 2015 11:25 Damdred wrote: Its curious because nobody is asking how many shots I have which led me to solidify my cc. Oh well the first step is to explain what mafia motivation I have for basically giving myself up for a one shot tracker. Explain that first why would anyone ask you that other then mafai... why are we talking about roles at night | ||
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On October 01 2015 12:17 LightningStrike wrote: How can you lose to a cannon rush LOL! SC2 is a easy game compared to BW. sc2 is for newbs i was legit at bw | ||
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On October 01 2015 12:19 Trfel wrote: You want me to beat you with a cannon rush? I guarantee you that I can, I cannon rush terrans at a masters level. And I'm really bad at cannon rushing XD Can you explain what it is about rsoultin's tone that made you so convinced that she was town? With as many specifics/details as you can. any cheese should be easily countered at a high level with alot of practice but even then it can work if there not on a game. it usually depends on the player your doing it vs. I used to cheese idra all the time and it was hillarious | ||
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On October 01 2015 17:57 marvellosity wrote: the thing is, how am i supposed to take Trfel's reads on anyone seriously when i know he's just saying untrue things? we lynch him bro | ||
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On October 02 2015 01:32 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not, I was just upset and made that up i know and i thought you were trying to take a bullit =/ poorly | ||
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On October 02 2015 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: in fact sicklucker goes to the same pile with Moosydoosy just because i forgot he exists in the game. I dont spam the thread at night like you morons asking people with 1 vote to claim (lol LS). in 5 minutes the game is on | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Someone is probably going to try to push Trfel but his approach to the game was so so so fucking townie at the EoD he is not mafia. Lynch rsoultin to confirm Trfel's alignment if you are unsure. hummm...? how does her alignment confirm his | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you don't understand the difference between spamming and discussing reads you truly should not post during the night. You are the only one who has spammed in this thread during the night phase. i told you i dont post at night anymore its the dumbest thing ever. like i learned how to play mafia in my 6 months away from this forum it was awsome | ||
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On October 02 2015 06:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: seems like you didn't though... you know this from 1 day of mafia huh where you said im an obvious town. I dont see how me intentionally not posting for 24 hours because its fucking retarded to do it at night because it just gives mafia a roadmap to victory, changes anything | ||
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Dandred did you take an epic role bullet? | ||
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Oh that and hes the most obv scum.liar ever. It could also clear rsoutlin who I cant read because she has no reads just many words | ||
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On October 02 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you scum? It doesn't clear rsoultin in any way. Or why does it, in your opinion? lol cool spewed rsoul town so hard you not reading his posts? classic tmi | ||
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gb is obviously never really claiming at night rofl | ||
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yes but he didnt need 2 ;p | ||
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HE PICKED 1 SHOT TRACKER OF ALL THINGS TO CLAIM. Like it just seemed like he was sending us a message (he town read everyone who was in that game) thats why I didnt want to vote scott | ||
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On October 01 2015 07:11 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1 Recall List scott31337 (7): Damdred, coolTLname (4): rsoultin (1): Trfel, GlowingBear (1): Trfel (0): raynpelikoneet (0): LightningStrike (0): Tonight, I am banning scott31337 permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 1 has ended. its interesting that the people suspect of being mafia did not vote scott. Mafia knew scott was a power role so they always vote/push him if there competent. I would suspect all 3 mafia to vote scott in this spot. but it was acualy the most town read people in the game that pushed it. / rayn / rstou / rels /shining . Theres always mafia in there. No way scott gets lynched there without some mafia help and they have all the motivation. Some mafia might just have been afk for example if ls is mafia he was with his mom. MAFIA KNOWS SCOTT IS A REAL POWER ROLE. they always vote him. Im acualy laying off of trefel because he didnt. 2 mafia probably voted scott and the third is probably cool who is an idiot so he does not count. | ||
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On October 02 2015 11:46 coolTLname wrote: so there was someone who said i was role hunting 101 with my Can medics heal themselves question do u guys remember who that was? look into him. I wasn't role hunting btw, i was actually trying to look like a medic , probably shouldn't have done that but o well. I swore it was the shining but i cant find it lol and rayn and GB i have decent arguments in my filter on these two. GL ! yes and I was right. Ill admit its also a good tactic to look like a medic if people think your a newb. But if your an experienced smurf then its more likely a rolehunt. I dont think this is why I or other people scum read you tho. | ||
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On October 02 2015 12:02 rsoultin wrote: look, seriously...the guy is already being railroaded let him talk freely and don't ping him like this. rayn's approach where he throws zingers and sarcasm is both demoralizing and tilting at once, and if cool is town, this is not the way to help him show that to us thats pretty townie | ||
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On October 02 2015 12:12 rsoultin wrote: i'll have questions after my read-through :/ still depressing y'all want to scumread me for my methods without being curious what they actually are lol so i'll just lay them out for you guys and maybe that'll help you understand why i fluctuated as much as i did and am being really neutral right now day ones i try to get townreads off general personality (tone/meta) type reads...if i can get a scumread off that (i.e. someone is behaving really outside the norm) i'll latch onto it like a bulldog but that doesn't always happen. sometimes it's just little doubts here and there and a collection of people i don't want to lynch night one is usually the time for vca...i do mine differently than others on the site do. it works to some extent even with town flips. essentially i go through everyone's filters and see their read progressions and how they line up with their voting, add that in to context and what i know of them and shake out a reads list, but more importantly a ranking from there ^ this is what i haven't been able to do yet and i don't think a bunch of reads based on personality from d1 and general impressions/faulty memory 147 pages in will really do anyone any good. it will come tomorrow evening and i'm hoping to find some yummy things there ^^ but this post is what I dont get about you. this is a useless post. I read the first half then I realized what its about and I stopped reading because I know its another waste of time post. Like this thread is not a place to leave your autobiography we want reads. I dont even know what a vca is | ||
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On October 02 2015 12:15 coolTLname wrote: i still think GB is maf , same reasons as before. i honestly havent had the energy or time (defending myself) to read other people. i believe trfels story i dont agree with this guy i suspect shining. shouldnt u think the opposite? or at least 50-50 Im gnona find whoever posted the role hunting 101 thing and anaylze him, And the voting thread, i suppose it was odd the votes were tied 4-4 and that makes my hard claim of rsoultin look bad but i had many reasons , like rsoultin not voting trfel , being very actively reading , and even looked up her past 2 games where she was just flirty and not useful as mafia. and the ppl i suspected, GB and rayn were voting AND they were just very silent, like they felt very relaxed and didn't care. Anyway like i said i eliminated rayn so that leaves GB. I read that GB usually posts like a crack addict, but he doesnt done anything, YET hes clearly been .. here the whole time. the way he voted and his poor conclusions and reads make me suspect him. And shortly after he received 3 votes a HUGE train came upon me of like 7 ppl. i agree theres some new reasons to suspect shining. that read was based on his start which was very strong. I think everyone agreed on that | ||
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On October 02 2015 12:18 coolTLname wrote: he even claimed roleblocker night 1 , btw. And damdred is roleblocked all of a sudden. so i guess my onnly real read is GB right now. And whoever said i was role hunting 101 with the "can medics heal themselves" question is my #2 suspect dont you think thats too obvious tho? mafia might have already submitted there actions to roleblock dandred if thats what happened. If your mafia who plans to roleblock dandred do you think you jokingly claim that role in thread? | ||
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On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote: Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow not necessarily but its possible. kind of wifmo which im never against but marvs always the most likely nk if hes town. | ||
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On October 02 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote: marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh lol you dont remember him pushing you super hard? now your posting scummy again | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: why exactly would you suspect shining, sl? his vote on scott. like i said mafia was probably pushing that and I dont think your mafia. There has to be mafia in there | ||
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On October 02 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand, can you elaborate further? On October 02 2015 09:37 sicklucker wrote: its interesting that the people suspect of being mafia did not vote scott. Mafia knew scott was a power role so they always vote/push him if there competent. I would suspect all 3 mafia to vote scott in this spot. but it was acualy the most town read people in the game that pushed it. / rayn / rstou / rels /shining . Theres always mafia in there. No way scott gets lynched there without some mafia help and they have all the motivation. Some mafia might just have been afk for example if ls is mafia he was with his mom. MAFIA KNOWS SCOTT IS A REAL POWER ROLE. they always vote him. Im acualy laying off of trefel because he didnt. 2 mafia probably voted scott and the third is probably cool who is an idiot so he does not count. FUck i forget all that I wrote it was so good. Basically rsou/rels/shining are way more likely to be mafia because of how they voted scott. While the people who voted coolt are more likely to be town. not just because coolt is mafia but because he is never a town powerole the way he gave up. Like marv gave mafia the perfect reason to lynch a powerole (we have to assume mafia knows scott is really a powerole when he claims since hes not on there team) Marv gave them the perfect excuse to vote scott too. unless the mafia was afk they always snap vote scott here. Also I think its less likely a mafia would be afk at a deadline. I think the mafia team is probably coolt/rsou + one of shining/rels. It can still be trefel but I feel hes not trying at all. | ||
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LIKE WHAT THE ACUAL FUCK. This is almost too bad to be mafia hes asking in thread who it was rather then going back to find it. And I have to remind him that i was his early scum read | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think you have read the EoD1 quite closely.... i was there dude... the scott lynch was super bad your biased because you helped lead it. Like mafia had to have voted for him | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I gave the "perfect excuse" for mafia to vote for scott. I pointed out Damdred is ccing. At least get your facts straight, or if you are talking about something else marv did, please feel free to elaborate. yes i included you too congrats thats not the point. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: why was it bad? Damdred conter-claimed him. scott was (not counting the claim) scummy as fuck. Like why does mafia "have to have voted for him"? I don't understand what you are saying. Noone was gonna lynch scott after he claimed -> Damdred cc. maybe its meta but the only reason dandred should have suspected scott was because he claimed 1 shot tracker which he did in the game before. Dandred thinking there cant be 2 cop type roles is super bullshit because anyone competetant knows open setups are usually random and any 2 town roles are possible thats why its called an open setup. | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: But it doesn't change the fact that when scott claims, Damdred claim (assuming they are both town), mafia knows they are both town. So why does mafia "have to" vote for scott?!?!?!?!? He is getting lynched anyways. How was he getting lynched anyways? I didnt want to vote for scott. you can kill him later if you still think hes mafia and maybe get some information. | ||
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Im acualy convinced no one on this forum knows the mechanics of this game since that lynch was lead by two of the best players on this site | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: and scott was scummy for entirely different reasons (most likely J Roc reasons). agreed i did vote him in the end after a really hard decision. but it had nothing to do with dandreds silly cc | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I did vote for scott aswell because of Damdred's CC. So did marv. yes I know and thats scum points for you. but you were pushing him regardless all the cc did was push him over the top for you. He did not seems to be so high on the others radar. . | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:29 Rels wrote: wow sicklucker what you are saying is bullshit scott was a main candidate for lynch the whole day. The one reason he wasn't a lynch candidate anymore was his claim Damdred counter claiming nullified the town credit from scott's claim => he was a main candidate again I also think it's bullshit you can say "mafia definitely vote for scott", because as soon as scott had enough vote to be lynched, mafia would shut up and let scott's lynch happen, while not taking part of it I was voting coolt before scott claimed so im not as aware about that but. Him claiming a role is a good reason to unvote him. but dandred claiming a role is not a good reason to vote scott and using this as an excuse is scummy as hell | ||
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On October 02 2015 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: sicklucker do you remember from where any of those people swapped to scott? i know rsoulting did GB -> scott shining??? rels??? coolt > scott | ||
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On October 03 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote: Even if cool is scum it doesn't mean truffle isn't. But an apathetic truffle is not a town truffle. Unless I find give a shits in his filter didn't notice before I think he's highly likely to be scum, even over cool whats ur current read on trfels | ||
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On October 03 2015 05:24 coolTLname wrote: also sicklucker was making some good reads early, but then he started spewing nonsense, then claimed he was sick and sleeping for 16 hours. which i didnt really believe. And he was drinking while he was sick to numb da pain. if i was mafia i would not lie about that. not because im not an asshole when i play mafia i try not to lie | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: No, I actually think there's rather a chance coolTL is town. I thought he had TMI on you early, and it still is really fucking weird he defended you that hard, but this might just be a case of too bad to be Mafia. Literally the way he can try to seem as townie as possible is to just not post anything as everything is just a flip flop and contradiction. things that suggest hes town are that he just gave up d1. ALtho mafia being bussed day 1 do give up that does not add up with his recent posts where hes clearly not given up. Mafia not getting bussed never give up because they know they have two votes in there favor | ||
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On October 04 2015 04:54 coolTLname wrote: GB rels , i HOPE its you bc then my psychoanalysis would be awesome but otherwise i dont have a case against u lol and the damdred CC im still @_@ on LS seems way too aloof , watching worlds, claiming VT when theres a powershot, if your town shinings very likely mafia by vote logic. consider me a swing vote here altho this game does not currently have my full attention unfortunately somethings came up | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because in my world Damdred is not mafia anyways. But in your world, like you probably assume you are town right? scott was town. Why does Damdred claim when you two are the only possible lynches? Town is gonna get lynched anyways. For you there should be 0% reason to think Damdred is mafia jsut because you are supposed to know your own alignment. Not to even mention this is straight up "role interaction" where you are supposed to be "good at" because sc2mafia is nothing but THIS. wow your right good points | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:19 Trfel wrote: I feel like Damdred is probably mafia. It's getting increasingly difficult for me to wait on reading him. but you think cool is town. why would a mafia dandred claim when either town coolt or town scott is getting lynched anyway? it makes no sense . you make no sense. you gotta be with coolt | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:30 Damdred wrote: I'm pretty damn sure shining is town though. do you understand what rayn is saying tho dandred? it kind of proves there making up there read on you 100%. This does not say anything about your alignment but listen. Coolt should know hes town. trefel thinks coolt is town. Yet they both scum read you. This makes no sense because in that world (where you are mafia) You counterclaim when its town/town wagon. like you would never do this and especially trefel is a good enough player to know this. Trefel is fucking making shit up | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: actually ur world is if cooltl is mafia -_- nvm lets say coolt flips mafia. do you not agree his team is rels and trefel? does that not make sense? | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:50 Rels wrote: So I was the first to push and vote my teammate, and would have stayed here until the end when I had no way to know damdred would counter claim ? That's stupid me and rayn were the first to push him. I love how you keep throwing that you were the first to vote him tho | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:51 Trfel wrote: Because raynpelikoneet made the argument that if coolTLname and someone else are both town, I forget who, then Damdred has to be town. I don't have a Damdred scumread. I don't have a Damdred read. how is that true I just read the oposite | ||
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On October 04 2015 05:19 Trfel wrote: I feel like Damdred is probably mafia. It's getting increasingly difficult for me to wait on reading him. yes here lol stfu | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:39 GlowingBear wrote: I DON'T THINK COOL TL IS TOWN, I AM REACTION TESTING PEOPLE I was trying to see if Mafia would take a chance to mislynch and blame me for it. and did you learn anything? | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:52 rsoultin wrote: what is your will then? who is scum? who is town? there is nothing in that post he listed his mafia already | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:55 coolTLname wrote: Look Marv said he likes me VOTE GLOWING BEAR hum ya that is true your entire defense today should have been that with no other typing | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:55 MoosyDoosy wrote: what do we do we vote trefel for the stats | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:57 Trfel wrote: Just sit back and watch. Either I'm wrong, in which case the game is okay, or I'm right, in which case it's basically over. You should be happy, since RNG says that you are mafia. Grab some popcorn and watch the fighting You might even be able to lynch me for TMI, because "there's no way he could possibly see that coolTLname as town, let's ignore that he was trying to explain it this whole time and we didn't listen to him". no way this is ever said by a town | ||
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On October 04 2015 06:58 coolTLname wrote: OK DAMDRED SL RSOULTIN DO U WANT TO VOTE FOR MOOSY no??? | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: why did damdred disappear? lol not sure if dumbtell | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote: Okay, LYLO. Sad to hear that Damdred was full cop, I do hope there is one more blue role, but there could very well not be if your town for the love of god dont you or anyone talk about that at night | ||
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its better to have 5v3 then 4v3. in 4v3 only one town needs to vote wrong for town to lose. in 5v3 we have more room to be wrong | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:19 Trfel wrote: No lynch is not allowed. good | ||
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i explained that. 4v3 is the worst town never wins in that spot. like in this thread we have 8 or so people. all of them have different scum reads. theres no way we vote unified as 4 towns against 3 mafia. 5v3 we have a much better shot | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: anyway, we're not lynching me trfel shining rayn so i just need to find one more townread and we're golden Why the shining? Im voting between him and another | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:31 Trfel wrote: So the person who says that the biggest problem with TL Mafia is that people just follow other people's reads and don't come to their own conclusions is now blaming someone else for losing the game? im not saying im following it im saying it makes sense for rsoulin to think that | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:37 Trfel wrote: Because I'm annoyed. And because I caught you in a lie. Raynpelikoneet, this makes sicklucker 100% mafia, right? Time to tunnel him to oblivion! im blaming dandred because he knew people would follow him and im blaming the tl meta because they would. | ||
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On October 04 2015 07:57 GlowingBear wrote: I don't feel like putting too much effort but I always see LS being in thread, saying shit like "yeah I agree with you I dislike this person" but keeping his vote on cool TL and always giving excuses of how he is not going to be around. If you consider rsoultin and Rayn as townies, Mafia is clearly letting town destroy ourselves. Which means: they are laid back. Like sicklucker, who is here but doing nothing. Like LS. of course im doing nothing its night time. sorry im not claiming bullshit and telling mafia my reads to make the correct nk | ||
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On October 04 2015 11:53 LightningStrike wrote: Do you think this game is actually harder than it is after the cool flip? huh? its pretty unwinnable of course its harder we have to lynch 3 scum inarow without more then 1 person voting wrong and no one has similar reads at all. Id say we have a 1/100 chance to pull this out of a hat if not worse. Also of course no ones around its saturday night im ad at myself i even checked the thread | ||
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On October 04 2015 12:19 LightningStrike wrote: I feel like the game is harder than it should be and scum is prob hiding very easily because of the easy mislynches we had :\ here your kind of suggesting your the one who pulled it off.... Its a really weird way to describe it | ||
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On October 04 2015 20:03 GlowingBear wrote: I know I'm laid back but I also know I'm town, which is awesome cause I can remove my name from the PoE list cant i be laid back too? shitty reason to think im mafia ( i dont even think i been laid back) | ||
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On October 05 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote: I really hope Mafia kills me because i am blue. LOL I COUNTERCLAIM we got 1 boyzzz | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:01 GlowingBear wrote: Oh fuck I was hoping I would die tonight i think all towns were hopin that | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote: Wow that Ttfrel kill make no sense at all. Time to check his filter and actually see if who he was on to. you mean the only guy who didnt push the mislynches? who did you expect to die rayn who claimed hes given up on the game | ||
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Gb was right about one thing whoever mafia is coasted because there doing so well. both gb and shining fall in this category hardddd | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:27 GlowingBear wrote: This is stupidity because you've played enough games with me to know I flip my reads as town. yes but you can see where you flip them and why. all game i was your top town read and now in lylo im conveintly your top scum read? I dont know why you town read me and I dont know why you scum read me if you want to change my opinion lets start with that | ||
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rstou/rels/shining/rayn/ 2 mafia in there at least maybe even 3. Ill admit that rstou and rayn is probably town so one of ls and gb is mafia with those two | ||
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Does anyone think rayn is capable of fake rage like that? | ||
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On October 05 2015 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: there is no ls i see what you did there | ||
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On October 05 2015 10:02 rsoultin wrote: i realize that you're voting shining, who is not on my list, and if he's not scum and both you and rayn are town you've lost us the game already ^^ especially rayn I really feel like hes the most likely to flip but im willing to compromise. we have to vote united with are town reads or we lose. | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: more importantly, sicklucker/shing, do you want to claim blue? i already have bro | ||
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claiming you roleblocked them means there less likely mafia because they could not have delivered the kp. Making them the bad mathematical lynch. If your fake claiming here and they are your team you are a genius because I dont want to lynch any of you now | ||
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On October 05 2015 20:59 MoosyDoosy wrote: sicklucker, please explain your current lynch list. I just want to re-check something. Rels - mafia Rsoultin - town Rayn - town sicklucker - town Moosy - town Shining - mafia LS - on the fench gb- on the fench cant decide on the third | ||
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On October 05 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: c'mon rels you are smarter than this. rsoultin thinks one of you/md is scum rsoultin thinks one of gb/shining is scum rsoultin thinks me & ls are 100% town. rsoultind doesn't want to vote for sicklucker asap. ohhhhhhh. Ya she should instantly think im mafia I get it. 1 of me and gb is mafia in her world, and im voting her top town read and gb is not. interesting | ||
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On October 05 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote: or vote sicklucker only options we can pile on to sicklucker but you have to choose between me and sicklucker right now every last one of you read our filters, discuss, what have you but no one can vote anyone else AT ALL or we lose or we can just vote shining who is either your mafia partner your trying to protect or another one of your derps. theres no difference | ||
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On October 05 2015 22:25 rsoultin wrote: i'm town sicklucker is scum rayn has voted me there are 3 scum if you vote anyone but me or sicklucker, scum will pile onto me 4/3/1 we're voting between me and sicklucker i'll answer anything you want me to answer i agree we should not vote betweeen the role claims even tho 1 of them is always mafia. moosy do you have any roleblocks left. I kind of believe the 1 shot over the 2 or more shot because of balance issues... like there should not even be a 3rd role but here we are | ||
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On October 06 2015 02:53 GlowingBear wrote: Moosy Why do you admit rels is throwing the game instead of believing he could be Mafia fake claiming? yes this reaction is so weird. you should instantly think rels is mafia. rels thinks your mafia. there can not be a full cop, a 1 shot watcher and two roleblockers in the same game. there just cant be. | ||
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On October 05 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote: okay so let me explain my thought process here it's lylo there are 5 town if 1 is on town we've already lost unless we pile 4 on scum before they can get on the town and just don't move for anything, cause it's whoever gets to 4 first if shining's scum, and sicklucker's scum, if all town players are voting for scum we have to reach 3 before scum can pile on to a town player. so we can afford a 2/3 split there, which i wasn't really thinking much on cause i think shining is town like i get why rayn thinks this makes me scum but the problem here is we absolutely have to consolidate on 2 wagons because if anyone is wrong here's what happens 1 town wagon 1 scum wagon race to 4 votes 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here for the win 1 scum wagon - 2 town 1 other scum wagon - 2 town 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here 1 town wagon - 1 town <- or here 1 scum wagon - 3 town like i get why he thinks i'm scum for not voting for sicklucker right off the bat but LEGITIMATELY if we do not consolidate on 2 wagons we're screwed. and LEGITIMATELY we could still be screwed because if town votes for town, just one town player voting for just one town player, scum can pile on and win this is what i was thinking, rayn, and this is why i am demanding that we lynch between me and sicklucker if you're not going to move there's no way for us to win with more than one wagon we have to consolidate and i really wish you would try to be objective about me rayn. please fucking try >< like this logic makes no sense this is not majority vote. | ||
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On October 05 2015 22:58 rsoultin wrote: blah i'm typing too fast, there's no way gb and shining are scum together because of gb's "reaction test" on shining then who am i scum with? since you have this all figured out | ||
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On October 05 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote: ^ GUYS like seriously where am i wrong here? READ THIS!! i'm not even arguing that i'm not scum i'm arguing that unless we consolidate on just two wagons right now we are going to fucking lose for sure with the whole thing. scum can vote anyone all day and then change there vote at the end of the day. this is not majority vote. Someone voting someone does not mean they are not aligned. Like rayn can theoretically be your partner in this game for example. | ||
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On October 05 2015 23:03 rsoultin wrote: -_- because i know that he's voting for town and if we don't consolidate on two wagons we're going to lose like seriously, what possible scum motivation can i have for saying this rels? i've literally laid out for you why town can never ever win if there are more than two wagons. we should be lynching between me and sicklucker. we can discuss lynching between me and someone else, i suppose, but regardless if rayn will not move we have to lynch between me and exactly one other person rayn is not an idiot if no one else votes you he will move his vote... calm down | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:12 MoosyDoosy wrote: Rels is town, probably has a role, and is incredibly dumb. you cant possibly believe this. whats your mafia experience? | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:19 MoosyDoosy wrote: 6 or 7 games. I've pulled doctor on my first game ever, Mafia last game, and never worry about role setups lol. well you should probably start. let me give you a tip if your town rels is 10000% mafia | ||
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On October 06 2015 01:14 MoosyDoosy wrote: Rels might be mafia over sicklucker depending on how much he misbehaves like a bad boy. interesting he posts this before rels cc;s. even after this he barely considers that rels can be mafia. Gb i checked before you tihs was his first post. On October 06 2015 02:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: cool. if you're actually a role rels, have fun throwing the game. i am town roleblocker whether you like it or not.can't wait to see your expression when you learn you can't read me for your life for basically the third time. even here he suggests rels is town. I donno what your looking at gb. | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:36 GlowingBear wrote: I know, I'm saying that he said he doesn't believe Rels' claim? he never once said that. he believes it. AND THATS THE WEIRD PART | ||
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On October 06 2015 03:57 rsoultin wrote: ... idk like i just coming back to the why does moosy claim during the night and say it's real during the day if he's scum? That happened? can you bring it up thats something a town would never do why does moosy not think rels is scum for ccing if he's scum and they only need one more ml? if he's scum he should be screaming rels is scum at the top of his lungs, shouldn't he? i've already got a headache and this is making it worse @.@ why is everyone assuming that rels' claim is more believable? rels, if he's scum, and gets moosy lynched by ccing, he wins the game. i can also see him holding off until everyone has reacted to try to get reads, too, though idk maybe we should just lynch sicklucker? no | ||
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On October 06 2015 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I actually something to ask. Does TMI stand for too much information? didnt you verbally attack someone for not knowing what tmi is earlier in the game? lol rayn | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote: how can't you be aligned with glowingbear rels shining moosy ??? maybe moosy but me and gb went from town reading to scum reading to kind of town reading each other? all in like 24 hours im sure were mafia together. rels and shining have been my main targets for awile I dont think i would do that if I was their partner. I have given solid vote logic to why there most likely mafia | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:18 rsoultin wrote: ye well i say gb and shining can't be a team and rels and moosy can't be a team cause they actually did things, voting on each other at times where if shining or moosy are scum, they could easily have been lynched over town actions are way more important to me than swingy reads or whatever why did you vote truffle last phase? remind me? because I thought he was mafia? like do I really have to go over my day 2 play for you my filter is open. obv i was wrong but why would I push trefel there knowing he is right about everything and im gonna look insanely bad when coolt flips town. Now that i think about it if anything me being completely wrong is a good read and proves im town by all means do it. like im never gonna pick a fight with trefel as mafia knowing when coolt flips town im going to look like an idiot | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: you think gb starts a second wagon on shining, even as a supposed "reaction test" when we're auto-lynching cool? if they're scum together, i mean? of course he can if the reaction test is fake. it distances them its not like anyone but coolt was ever getting lynched yesterday it was always going to happen. I think gb makes alot of sense to be with the shining. im not sure he makes sense to be with moosy tho. he was asking some strange qeustions on the cc | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote: ye but what's the point of voting for truffle over say moosy or gb? clearly you think cool is town if you think truffle has tmi? and the weirdest part here, sl, is you're saying the reason you were voting truffle is the same reason i should townread you? what made him scum in your eyes makes you town? i thought they were together. you dont even know my reads how can you think im scum? | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: if you thought truffle and cool were together why aren't you voting cool? for the bragging rights postgame duh | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote: mmm i seem to remember you at least parking on your own on a vote before as scum when you were scum with lex but i could be misremembering i know i've been fine with doing that solely because you can always make arguments like this, wifom the fact of the matter is your vote did a whole lot of nothing and you knew it would do a whole lot of nothing, and that's not something that town players usually do i donno who lex is lol. this might be wrong but I remember i was like the 4/5th vote on coolt and then i switch after it was already sealed. On October 02 2015 14:15 Half the Sky wrote: Day 2 Recall List coolTLname (5): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, The Shining Not listing (6): rsoultin, Trfel, LightningStrike, coolTLname, Rels, Damdred Tonight, I will be banning coolTLname permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. yes here its not like I didnt try to get coolt lynched but after it was secuded i voted tref for the lulz | ||
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On October 06 2015 07:36 GlowingBear wrote: The town Roleblocker could act against town. Like, roleblocking the detective or the tracker. Is very balanced considering we already have a Mafia roleblocker and a strong man ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eV9eYc8.gif) | ||
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A town roleblocker is almost as strong as a cop having 2 roleblockers a cop and a tracker is the most stupid shit you have ever said. sorry bro i like u | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: which one of you town roleblockers blocked Damdred on N1? neither claimed it so theres a mafia one. lol @ 3 roleblockers in a 3 player game with a cop and a watcher this is not a mishmash where every player has a role theres some vts like me | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: But moosydoosy jsut said there is not. and what does this tell you? | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:23 MoosyDoosy wrote: i claim best blue role 2015. scum can’t shoot me because of the too high possibility of mislynch from town. your not really a role if they just roleblock you anyway haha | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: You lost your privilege to be listened to again. seconded | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: i know. but trust me he is not too dumb to be scum. he is just scum. some qeustions. 1 do you think moosy/gb are trying to push thread sentiment toa 4 roles is possible scenerio + Show Spoiler + 2. do you think its possible the mafia team is rels/gb/moosy and they are doing some next level strategy where they cc each other so we lynch outside of the claims | ||
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On October 06 2015 08:40 GlowingBear wrote: Also, SL, you fail to see that one of the roles is a one shot and we already had two investigative roles in thread. So I will ask again: if you don't believe it's possible, who are you voting? neither because we can kill the mafia roleblocker . if that happens moosy can roleblock a mafia confirm himself and that mafia and win us the game. So moosy if your town dont be so defeated you sob you can still be a hero | ||
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On October 06 2015 09:05 GlowingBear wrote: Well, I finally got the time to play with a little more focus, but I couldn't keep up too much with the game, which makes me be very unsure about things. I don't know about sicklucker? I found very weird that he doesn't believe both claims are real, find weird that Moosy didn't automatically read Rels as Mafia but draws NO conclusion on which one is Mafia. That's really bad LOLLOLOL? THERES NOT 4 POWER ROLES IN A 13ER | ||
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On October 06 2015 09:08 rsoultin wrote: like legitimately i could be wrong in my setup analysis but i kinda feel like if i am it's a bastard game (sorry hts!, if that's true) anyway. so i'm going with the notion that the game is balanced properly you believe the bullshit too? | ||
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On October 06 2015 10:25 LightningStrike wrote: I just got back from Pokemon TCG and saw GB doing another reactionary test on Rayn. I honestly finding him thinking I gave a excuse to fuck off kinda funny because he should know that on Mondays I actually do go to a Pokemon TCG thing from 6-8 but I leave at 5:30 and get home by 8:30 so ya just found it amusing. Also I wouldn't mind a Shining lynch myself if we need to go for a safe lynch. theres no such thing as a safe lynch man. you either lose or lynch mafia. Ls you around? | ||
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On October 06 2015 20:59 rsoultin wrote: okay guys here's the deal PAY ATTENTION! rels is mafia things that make his claim false - lack of reaction to GB's roleblocker claim - 1-shot not claiming at start of day...he's expended his RB and can narrow the lynch pool. this is always the best play - rels' response to md's claim - first he goes to "check" on the rescind and even asks rayn why rels isn't blue - determination to see md lynched cause their "can't be two rb'rs! ^ one of these two things is not like the other. there's no reason for him to hide if he's really 1-shot, so he should have instantaneously cc'd if he believes the second point. he didn't regarding md...there is no scum-motivated reason to say that there could be two rb's...even if you go, oh, he's afraid! the simple truth is that lynching a town roleblocker ends the game for scum. there's nothing to be afraid of. yolo. him or me. fight to the death. secondly, leaving the true town roleblocker alive gives him a chance to catch out scum, and there's no way for scum to know if rels' 1-shot claim is true or not - plus he actually did react to gb and scumread him - plus he claimed in lylo, which is the correct move, and he did it while not under pressure rels is mafia and if he isn't the game ends today, which is just as well lynch rels with me for ultimate glory! either i recover this game for y'all, or i go out with an awesome bang of stupidness! we will call it the rsoul crusade! gird your loins, gents, draw your swords, and obtain everlasting glory! yes there is many reasons to hide your a 1 shot. look at scott in the last game. He said he was a 1 shot and then didnt get nked and got his other uses off. mafia are dumb if they believe rels really a 1shot. well hes probably mafia tho | ||
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On October 06 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: none of the people voting for shining have actually presented any reasons for him to be mafia. if that was a bus i would assume mafia would make a case for towncredit later. noone does that. So there literally MUST be mafia there. More than one. My reason is very explained I dont think anyone has read it tho | ||
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On October 06 2015 23:58 rsoultin wrote: lynch you there can't be roles make up your miiiind and lynch rels for ultimate glory! Theres clearly one.... like why do you want to lynch rels who could still have a shot and win town the game? same with moosy. its so silly theres 3 scum left | ||
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On October 07 2015 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: are we supposed to get notifications in this game? dandred did? idk i didnt get the honor of a roleblock | ||
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Now for reasons for you. I feel like you separated yourself from me this entire game. Now not to sound egotistical but in my last two town (and only town games on this site in like a year) I was town battling you as mafia. Both times you were lynched and in those you tried to buddy up to me as well. Makes sense for you to try to be on my side. You seem to be coasting and not reading the thread in a game where mafia is way ahead. Your pushing the world with 4 power roles, I dont know the angle but I have a hard time believing you think its possible. You reads especially on me seem to form conveniently. IM your top town all game (you posted this many times) but when it becomes lylo im in your poe if not your top target. Your not even my first target tbh but town has to consolidate on a wagon and with 3 mafia and 5 town your probably mafia here . | ||
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On October 07 2015 04:12 GlowingBear wrote: You're Mafia with the shining. You had NO need to change to my eagon to consolidate since the shining's wagon would be bigger than now a 3/3 I am definitely not Mafia and you kept talking to me like I wasn't until Rayn came to the thread and said "oh GB is Mafia" without bringing anything new to base his read on me. Same thing with rsoultin who was already saying she was thinking I am top town. why would i vote with my scum reads. thats lunacy | ||
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im sorry your mad for getting lynched again but your teams probably still gonna win... | ||
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like if im mafia in this spot im not posting maybe were all fucking wrong agggggg | ||
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On October 07 2015 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think we win this game. ..... | ||
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On October 07 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote: gb looks town want to ask a fourth time? or a fifth? HOW DOES THAT MAKE SHINING SCUM? | ||
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On September 29 2015 00:23 sicklucker wrote: hurry up and send me the pm where it says im mafia for like the 8/13 games ive played here | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:45 MoosyDoosy wrote: -stretches- still surprised people thought Rels' case was good. i didn't bother refuting it which I guess was my fault but it was still very, very bad. you... you thought his claim was good... | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:45 GlowingBear wrote: HAHAHAHAHA JUST WHEN I WAS PREPARING A JOKE ABOUT RELS CONCEDING BECAUSE HE IS FRENCH RELS CONCEDED HAHAHAHA im french canadian fuck stereo types. | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah not gonna play another game aswell. i get too mad with people who join games and don't give any fucks about playing. i get mad when they get town read | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:00 Rels wrote: So the game from my mafia perspective: I made a terrible mistake fakeclaiming a roleblocker. I was so sure I could get Moosy lynched I didn't care about future implications; and future implications meant that if my partners were caught, I would be left alive with Moosy and lose 1v1. Since Shining then sicklucker were caught, my mistake backfired hard and we lost. )= We also made a mistake a few hours ago. SL and I adviced The Shining to not say anything; that was while GB was being pushed. If he had entered the thread that moment with angry posts, I'm pretty sure Moosy was the lynch. Talking about the "angry post meta" fucking thing. I really felt we were fucked by that at some point. Like "Damdred is conf town because he's angry" and "LS is conf town because he screams at me" is bullshit meta. Nothing to do to counter that. Even I got townread by rayn because of a stupid rage post. I feel this really needs to stop for mafia to have an even chance to fight; and for this to stop, the players in question needs to improve their scumgames. Finally, blues. Fucking blues. I was so mad at them the moment Moosy claimed roleblocker p: like if Moosy was VT, the game was 100% won. It also was probably won if I didn't idiotly fakeclaimed though. (= Last words, I had a ton of fun playing this game. See you in the next one (= if i yelled at ryan i would have been the last player in the game ryan confirmed town for it | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote: 100%. Just look, LS immediately townread sicklucker and Shining for that... yep so like marv says maybe people should stop making up town reads. its makes the game pretty random | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:10 MoosyDoosy wrote: I like the kSC knight action for rsoul in the scum QT. mmm...lol! ya i got kinda annoyed by that no hard feelings. joe rogan mad | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:19 Trfel wrote: Honestly, I felt like there was a lot of really good play this game. From both sides. The only slouch was J Roc, and that was because his internet died, so not his fault. Everyone else put in a bunch of effort, and most games aren't like that (often that's my fault....). Frustrating game to play in, very enjoyable once I died XD no he was pretty terrible when he played | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:21 Half the Sky wrote: Alright, the elephant in the room - this is NOT just at rayn but the townplay in general Day 1 and Day 2. Just hear me out please. I realise people are going to say LOL HTS, it's easy to say when you have perfect information, but the fact of the matter is: 1 Townies DO illogical things from time to time. You cannot assume that a townie will play optimally 100% of the time. Suboptimal play does not mean a person is EXCLUSIVE mafia. Vivax gave me GREAT advice in Gaiden - is someone's read progression/case/overall behaviour believable from their perspective, even if suboptimal? That is the way to look into stuff. There are people who play very lurky or whose towngames are very scummy because they are new (coolTLname) or don't know what they are doing (Moosy), etc, and it's really important to try and see things from their perspective. 2 VCA (voting analysis) speaks volumes. I was a bit surprised that it was not used or looked into as much. 3 I have been guilty of this - but some of you need to watch how you use meta to defend people. People were hard defending the mafia for poorly rooted meta reasons or altogether inexplicable reasons. It made it harder partially for town to work together. 4 Town needed to do a much better job of LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. THERE ARE THREE MAFIA IN THE GAME. You might feel very strongly about one mafia, but someone else might be paying attention to another player for whatever reasons. There was far too much shouting over each other, and marvellosity even said in obs qt that this was partially related to #3. 5 NK analysis. Shining was strongly implicated from the deaths of Marv and Trfel. GlowingBear caught on to it but failed to convince people. These are the things that stuck out most to me, but I feel that town could have worked a little better together the first few days simply by listening to each other and trying to understand the other perspective. Not everyone in every game is experienced as the other. And it makes it a bit more pleasant to play with others as well, foster an environment that makes people want to show they are town. i used it very well they should have listened to me sooner. they completely ignored it but i expected that or I wouldnt have used it. THE SCUM TEAM ALWAYS VOTES SCOTT IN THAT SPOT | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:26 Half the Sky wrote: Didn't know that...I was in Quebec a month ago for a wedding and holiday. I went between Montreal and Quebec City, with most of my time in the former. You jerks always make fun of my bad spelling =[ You should feel bnad | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Funnily enough that was the reason i scumread Shining and probably should have scumread Relös aswell (i bought his explanation). Good job giving away BOTH of your teammates. yes i knew you had it figured out why do you think i quit? altho you should give me credit for it damn you | ||
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On October 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: A few thoughts and comments: In hindsight Damdred should have not claimed (obviously), but it would have been better even if scott was mafia. We could still have lynched another mafia, and regardless of scott's alignment him being alive on N1 it ensures Damdred gets a check. Mafia cannot roleblock him if scott is mafia, mafia will not roleblock him is scott is town. He will definitely not get strongarmed. I don't fault him for his decision, i would have probably done the same with the time left on the day phase, but it's just something that came to me a bit later.... I really really can't understand why people do not read and/or try to process what they read in certain situations. Nobody except for marv (and Rels but that's kinda irrelevant since he was mafia) understood my argument on J Roc (mainly looking at Damdred, Trfel and rsoultin here). I found out it very frustrating when i was saying "bananas are yellow", Damdred and Trfel come in and say "oranges are orange", and then rsoultin comes to say "Damdred is factually correct"................................... ugh. Please, try to understand the meaning behind the posts and thought process before you post. And this is not just for those people but to others aswell. That was just one of many examples. I understand the argument behind shining read (that marv just pointed out -- and Trfel on D2). My problem is, like i said when the game ended, the last couple of games i have been too busy lynching stupidity. It's very hard for me to not lynch people who say the following stuff: - first read in the game, "rayn is bussing sicklucker" [screw you motherfucker, I WAS EVEN RIGHT!!] - some guy doesn't read the thread at all and makes bullshit argument for 72 hours and in the meantime claims "lynch all liars" and "people who don't read the thread are mafia"..... - some dude reads like only the last post in thread and follows the thread sentiment, then does VCA and ends up in a conclusion "this is how people voted". when you tell them to read the thread, they fucking mock you and somehow you are the reason they are not reading the thread in the first place... super terrible. - "this dude counter-claims me in lylo, so i'll swap my read on him from mafia -> town" ?!?!?!?!?!?"?!"?!#¤#%(UDSJF.................... ....over let's say shining, who was at least being reasonable with his posts. I understand this kinda stuff often comes from a townie, but at the same time, even if it does the town is gonna lose the game if those players are alive at the end of the game 100% (especially against Rels who was really really active here). I know this is a "shitty" thing to say but nowadays i end up lynching people who will lose the game for the town regardless of their alignment more than mafia, because they distract me from finding mafia. That's why i don't want to play anymore with people i consider to be in that category. J Roc left scott in a really shitty position. For me there was nothing that could ever make me re-consired the read, regardless of what scott said. I am sorry for scott, but when i decide someone is mafia, there is no more "discussing", that phase is over, then i just try to lynch that player until something really extreme happens (like claim -- well that didn't really help here... ).I liked the last day phase. The case/votes on GlowingBear basically solved the game (regardless of Rels/Moosy alignment). Rels you should have not claimed. I understand your reasoning but you have to think further. You didn't, obviously because you wanted to win the game there. That was a mistake because Shining was really really likely to be lynched anyways. Well played anyways. sicklucker apparently says townie stuff only when he is pointing out who his scumbuddies are. Thank you for making my game easier on D3. Yeah, idk, it's nice to leave with a win but the game was still shit. Very shit. Yes thats why you called me town the entire game | ||
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On October 08 2015 00:19 MoosyDoosy wrote: town was fucked had I not been randomly roleblocker. I was literally too scummy to be shot during the night and everything was planned around trying to kill me. lol. #bestbluerole2015 you were not really role blocked that was part of the lie... | ||
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I had hoped that the standard paranoia where everyone goes (SHIT EVERYONE WANTS SHINNIG DEAD HE CANT BE MAFIA) would kick in. For some reason this never happened (probably because he was afk) and I looked like a twat all day because I had no one to fight against and without that I was definitely howling. I did not want to fight against gb/rsos/rayn because I had them where I wanted them at the time and no real reason to scum read them. Well ya I should have stayed on shining anyway but I wanted the game to end one way or the other that day ;p So when I realized you guys were not changing I said f this | ||
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