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On September 30 2015 20:13 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
so to the townies who for some reason think that me going hey, i'm not sure that marv is actually town and trying to get people to look at and talk about him, is likely to come from a scum rsoul
whatcha gonna do when i flip town? xP I promise I will go after him.
@.@
if he's town that would be really stupid
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On September 30 2015 19:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The truth is i haven't paid any attention to what rsoultin actually says due to me thinking she is mafia anyways based on last couple of games. If this game had happened a month ago i would have been all yelling to her for the "Damdred's conclusion is factually correct".
Then this morning i read ten pages of absolute nonsense and decided to not give any fucks anymore. The only thing i got out of that shit is that shining is town and sl is most likely town. Everything else was jsut "tone yadda yadda" and LS posting nonsense while not having read the thread at all. Like i don't even know why i am supposed to put effort into games when noone else fucking does. It's really annoying. I can't stand for example Trfel complaining about "how hard the game is, wow there are no reads to make kthxbye" and then doing jack shit and going into pointless arguments with sl.
Maybe i'll play now because it seems like at least marv and rels are playing.
##unvote
##vote rsoultin even though it's just a lot of bitching, i do like this post. because it points out a lot of things that i also thought (shining, sl, "tone reads", LS, Trfel)
this post you like?
this post is kinda boring to me honestly...it's a summary not points? what are the points?
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On September 30 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 18:27 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 09:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:36 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
-squints at-
so i'm wondering how early is too early to start reading into people setting up moving votes to me later ^^ scum will be in there somewhere It is never too early especially when you point out something relatively inconsequential in a half serious post where I list 3 other people besides you. kudos for nonsense never too early to start suspecting people saying they could lynch me meets your post is inconsequential and not serious how? are you or are you not scumreading the people in your list? -sighs- My post was what I was thinking, but I phrased it in a joking manner. I just find it strange that you're picking out one bit about yourself in a post that was phrased jokingly especially when I mention that one other person that you're townreading (Trfel) is scummy in my eyes. ^ I was just phrasing that bit sarcastically. then it wasn't inconsequential and it was serious, now wasn't it? see i'm watching this pretty mislynch forming up and i'm seeing who is taking advantage, cause otherwise they have to shoot me ^^ it's still probably early for that, though the soft scumreads still don't make me feel all warm and fuzzy about you, especially when you try to downplay them like you just did No it wasn't serious because as you say, they're soft reads. And I literally can't downplay them further when they're as soft as can be. Hmph. I'm also noticing you're responding rather acerbically to the posts that I'm making when you normally do not do so. Can't help shake off the feeling your enthusiasm this game has been kind of forced too. ^ my case ^ precisely what my first two posts were getting at. which is really obvious if you spent 2 seconds trying to understand what i was getting at. but you didn't, you just threw out "asinine" and concentrated on me saying i wanted you to post town things (P.S. since when is this a bad thing? scumreads are revoked because the scumreads in question post townie things)
lol now i know that i can link a multitude of my town games where i "respond acerbically" to people
himalayas, for one
and i'm pretty sure i've done it with you
yes
ippo lol where you called me a cow and even damdy started saying i was being a bitch ^^
try again
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On September 30 2015 20:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 18:27 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 09:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:36 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
-squints at-
so i'm wondering how early is too early to start reading into people setting up moving votes to me later ^^ scum will be in there somewhere It is never too early especially when you point out something relatively inconsequential in a half serious post where I list 3 other people besides you. kudos for nonsense never too early to start suspecting people saying they could lynch me meets your post is inconsequential and not serious how? are you or are you not scumreading the people in your list? -sighs- My post was what I was thinking, but I phrased it in a joking manner. I just find it strange that you're picking out one bit about yourself in a post that was phrased jokingly especially when I mention that one other person that you're townreading (Trfel) is scummy in my eyes. ^ I was just phrasing that bit sarcastically. then it wasn't inconsequential and it was serious, now wasn't it? see i'm watching this pretty mislynch forming up and i'm seeing who is taking advantage, cause otherwise they have to shoot me ^^ it's still probably early for that, though the soft scumreads still don't make me feel all warm and fuzzy about you, especially when you try to downplay them like you just did No it wasn't serious because as you say, they're soft reads. And I literally can't downplay them further when they're as soft as can be. Hmph. I'm also noticing you're responding rather acerbically to the posts that I'm making when you normally do not do so. Can't help shake off the feeling your enthusiasm this game has been kind of forced too. ^ my case ^ precisely what my first two posts were getting at. which is really obvious if you spent 2 seconds trying to understand what i was getting at. but you didn't, you just threw out "asinine" and concentrated on me saying i wanted you to post town things (P.S. since when is this a bad thing? scumreads are revoked because the scumreads in question post townie things) lol now i know that i can link a multitude of my town games where i "respond acerbically" to people himalayas, for one and i'm pretty sure i've done it with you yes ippo lol where you called me a cow and even damdy started saying i was being a bitch ^^ try again
in fact, to expound on this, that's actually why you townread me
so why exactly does it make me scummy now when it made me townie before, oh, and i flipped town so there's no reason for you to reevaluate that method of reading me?
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On September 30 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So rsoultin are you going to tell how your top #2 townread becomes your #2 scumread?
What happened between and what townie things did those all other people (than scott) do?
In case you are not, sidcussing anything with you is pointless.
let's see...ls came back, and i know he's looking into college so not being around for that reason makes it nai...my main reason for suspecting him again had fallen off lol ><
truffle's weirdness with his pushes on me were clarified as our joke, which i thought they might be, plus he's putting in the effort again so i felt good about him
shining is pretty townie by his posts
sl continued pointing out interesting things that made him less likely to be scum, and i maintain my his reads are sl-centric which is generally a town sign point
cool's posts feel super new to me. could be scum but i don't think for any of the reasons anyone are calling him out for
you i had as a townread because you're being interactive which i haven't really seen from you as scum, though you claim that if you try you can still do it...tbf i don't think this would be the game you'd suddenly go tryhard mafia but i fail to see why you think marv's push here is any good
if it's just that i changed a read that doesn't make anyone scum lol >< just reevaluating doesn't
what's your read on rels?
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On September 30 2015 20:22 marvellosity wrote:
don't even PRETEND you don't do it as mafia
or are you going to say that?
lol i do it as both alignments which again i maintain that you're fully aware of ^^
or are you going to argue that?
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ah yeah and moosy was the main reason i started reevaluating i believe...or at least started the looking through where my townreads stood, cause the things that were making me twitch about him made sense when he explained :/ and he'd been the one i was most suspicious of
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On September 30 2015 20:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:26 GlowingBear wrote:On September 30 2015 20:18 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 20:17 GlowingBear wrote:On September 30 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:13 GlowingBear wrote:On September 30 2015 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
so to the townies who for some reason think that me going hey, i'm not sure that marv is actually town and trying to get people to look at and talk about him, is likely to come from a scum rsoul
whatcha gonna do when i flip town? xP I promise I will go after him. @.@ if he's town that would be really stupid He said he is 100% sure on you and he is Marv; also, I don't like your read progression on him but I agree with your suspicions on him; also, he is driving the lunch away from truffle; also, he is not willing to discuss anyone else, he simply wants you to be Mafia.So yeah. I have plenty of reasons to vote Marv if you flip green these are all shocking reasons for ANYONE to be mafia. makes you look bad. You're driving away the lynch of a guy I'm certain is Mafia. You know it's ok to be suspicious of that. no, it really isn't. all those reasons are really bad. my early townread on you is quite reversed. strongpushing someone i firmly believe to be mafia is simply not a mafiatrait by any means. especially not for me. i never strongpush like this as scum. which you know. naughty. very naughty GB. it's a reason that is superficially sounds ok, but you should really know better.
i feel this is true, sadly :/ unless someone who has played with him more can contradict it, that just leaves this as really bad omgus based on things that never make me mafia lol ><
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On September 30 2015 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
still repeating omgus when i explained what omgus is.
keep going girl.
it still is omgus
what doesn't make sense about my reevaluating my reads?
whatever your random little misguided nitnoid reasons for scumreading me, you had me as town before
the change came with my scumread on you, and not only does my explanation make sense, but it's very townie because i am town and i think it's hilarious that you think i'd strap in for the omgus everyone knows you do when someone scumreads you instead of just pushing for an easy mislynch in someone else with very spread votes
i fought tooth and nail with hf and threw him on tilt on scum. that's the only thing comparable to this in my scumgame, i think, but what in my approach to you remotely resembles that?
answer: nothing
the much more likely reason is the real one...other people were looking townie and your contributions this game have been zzz worthy
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still not mafia so you should find the real ones ^^
rayn where did you go?
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also i think we have scum in rels tbh, based on people's reactions to marv's "case" that wasn't a case and rels' push on truffle all game lol
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On September 30 2015 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:So let's see; You had literally said your strongest townreads are Damdred and marvellosity. That, by default means marv has done some things you consider to be extremely town, otherwise you are just plain out lying. Now, marv does not post anything after that post (where you call him town) before you call him your #2 mafia read. Some examples: Show nested quote +let's see...ls came back, and i know he's looking into college so not being around for that reason makes it nai...my main reason for suspecting him again had fallen off lol >< "LS didn't do anything to make my opinion on him change" Show nested quote +sl continued pointing out interesting things that made him less likely to be scum, and i maintain my his reads are sl-centric which is generally a town sign point "sl did some things that make him less likely to be mafia (not town to be exact), so it apparently overrides my #2 townread in towniness" Show nested quote +cool's posts feel super new to me. could be scum but i don't think for any of the reasons anyone are calling him out for "this null read on cool also overrides my #2 townread in towniness". yeah there was nothing townie moosy did, that also overrides #2 townread in towniness.
Like, unless you are just straight out throwing out conclusions out of your head without even thinking about anything for one second, you are just straight out lying. When you townread someone for any reason, the townread does just not vanish. If it did because "other people looked more town", well there is nothing you just said that suggests you are telling the truth.
you're not arguing the truth of what i said here, rayn lol you're saying that the value i place on my reads you wouldn't place on them
two very different things
i'm a tonreader
also i think marv is more likely town now and he'd probably be back up in my #3 or #4 townread so...lol
does that make me scum? xP
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bueno okay i see the disconnect actually...
no rayn
i'm saying that i did run out of scumreads and i went back to reevaluate based on that and didn't think that marv's reaction to the votes was strong enough to merit the strong townread i gave him originally for it
clear now?
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On September 30 2015 20:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
truffle's weirdness with his pushes on me were clarified as our joke, which i thought they might be, plus he's putting in the effort again so i felt good about him Wait do you think these two posts are jokes too ? Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< OH YEAH that was my argument! Thank you for reminding me! Never mind, it's still somewhat valid. Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< Basically, GlowingBear made this one post purely to generate discussion. His other posts before this post that you made were serious posts. The post you quoted, the "I'm town" post, does nothing to promote discussion at all. My opening posts also didn't end up creating any discussion. Basically, your post claims that my opening posts actually had a purpose and created discussion, and GlowingBear was actually succeeding at making provocative posts. Both claims I disagree with. Hm, but now that I think about it I don't think that this is a good argument  Wow, I'm really bad at this.
they're clearly not lol and he admitted to as much? what's your point?
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On September 30 2015 20:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:41 rsoultin wrote:
bueno okay i see the disconnect actually...
no rayn
i'm saying that i did run out of scumreads and i went back to reevaluate based on that and didn't think that marv's reaction to the votes was strong enough to merit the strong townread i gave him originally for it
clear now? slippery slippery changey story scummylady
i've never changed my story? should i expect you to read the filter of your scumread at all, or should i ignore you?
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On September 30 2015 20:41 rsoultin wrote:
bueno okay i see the disconnect actually...
no rayn
i'm saying that i did run out of scumreads and i went back to reevaluate based on that and didn't think that marv's reaction to the votes was strong enough to merit the strong townread i gave him originally for it
clear now?
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On September 30 2015 20:44 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:42 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:40 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
truffle's weirdness with his pushes on me were clarified as our joke, which i thought they might be, plus he's putting in the effort again so i felt good about him Wait do you think these two posts are jokes too ? On September 29 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< OH YEAH that was my argument! Thank you for reminding me! Never mind, it's still somewhat valid. On September 29 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< Basically, GlowingBear made this one post purely to generate discussion. His other posts before this post that you made were serious posts. The post you quoted, the "I'm town" post, does nothing to promote discussion at all. My opening posts also didn't end up creating any discussion. Basically, your post claims that my opening posts actually had a purpose and created discussion, and GlowingBear was actually succeeding at making provocative posts. Both claims I disagree with. Hm, but now that I think about it I don't think that this is a good argument Wow, I'm really bad at this. they're clearly not lol and he admitted to as much? what's your point? WTF you just said Trfel's push on you was a joke I quoted two posts that are part of his push on you and you say they're not a joke ??
when he said i was still mafia and left was a joke, and when he started pushing on me was a joke, so the problem with the progression of his scumread on me is not a problem because only the parts you quoted were serious
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On September 30 2015 20:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:38 rsoultin wrote:
also i think we have scum in rels tbh, based on people's reactions to marv's "case" that wasn't a case and rels' push on truffle all game lol I push mafia marv's case is true Trfel's read progression on you is weird How does it makes me mafia ?
marv's case is demonstrably false by my role pm lol
moreover i've explained it more than adequately from a townie mindset. address what in my explanation doesn't make sense
explain how trfel's read progression on me is weird given the knowledge that only the posts you quoted were serious from him
and i expect mafia to capitalize on what is most likely a town marv pushing on a town rsoul; we're kind of the defalut nks along with rayn in this game xP it's obvious that mislynching any of us would be fucking brilliant for scum
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On September 30 2015 20:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:45 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:44 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:42 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:40 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
truffle's weirdness with his pushes on me were clarified as our joke, which i thought they might be, plus he's putting in the effort again so i felt good about him Wait do you think these two posts are jokes too ? On September 29 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< OH YEAH that was my argument! Thank you for reminding me! Never mind, it's still somewhat valid. On September 29 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< Basically, GlowingBear made this one post purely to generate discussion. His other posts before this post that you made were serious posts. The post you quoted, the "I'm town" post, does nothing to promote discussion at all. My opening posts also didn't end up creating any discussion. Basically, your post claims that my opening posts actually had a purpose and created discussion, and GlowingBear was actually succeeding at making provocative posts. Both claims I disagree with. Hm, but now that I think about it I don't think that this is a good argument Wow, I'm really bad at this. they're clearly not lol and he admitted to as much? what's your point? WTF you just said Trfel's push on you was a joke I quoted two posts that are part of his push on you and you say they're not a joke ?? when he said i was still mafia and left was a joke, and when he started pushing on me was a joke, so the problem with the progression of his scumread on me is not a problem because only the parts you quoted were serious I agree, and that is this part of the read progression that doesn't make sense. Why would he go "Oh I forgot one reason to scumread you, here it is"
he already explained that my later posts made it seem like i was going a different direction?
better question is why you're pushing this "truffle's read progression on rsoul" thing so hard, from the very beginning of the game, yet the moment marv comes out with a case on me, you sheep it
do you really think we could be scum together?
you clearly are much more adamant about this point from early game on truffle that you've been harping on and filling most of your filter with than anything anyone has said about me. there's a truffle wagon and yet you're voting me lol
this does not compute
i think you're scum for it
^ note to all townies if marv's fit gets me lynched...rels is probably scum here for this...dropping the push on truffle to come after me when, rationally, i should be town in his eyes
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On September 30 2015 20:52 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 20:48 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 20:46 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 20:38 rsoultin wrote:
also i think we have scum in rels tbh, based on people's reactions to marv's "case" that wasn't a case and rels' push on truffle all game lol I push mafia marv's case is true Trfel's read progression on you is weird How does it makes me mafia ? marv's case is demonstrably false by my role pm lol moreover i've explained it more than adequately from a townie mindset. address what in my explanation doesn't make sense explain how trfel's read progression on me is weird given the knowledge that only the posts you quoted were serious from him and i expect mafia to capitalize on what is most likely a town marv pushing on a town rsoul; we're kind of the defalut nks along with rayn in this game xP it's obvious that mislynching any of us would be fucking brilliant for scum it doesn't make sense that you townread marv for his reaction to the pressure votes THEN realized he's done nothing and scumread him you having doubts about him is the reason you pressure voted him! Your flip flop on him is unbelievable
yup this is your true scum lol he's making things up now
it's perfectly reasonable to reevaluate based on the game state. there is nothing unreasonable about it
the better question is what do i gain from flipping my read on marv at that point?
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