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On October 07 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2015 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Every single time a townie is called out mafia / lynched it's because of shit reasons. Yes i am referring to her, LS, Damdred and GB. I can't speak for them as I didn't follow the game close enough for that, just experienced it from Tina's side, but like I said the reason was more in how you stressed you don't think she can be that dumb as town which is why she's mafia and not really listening to her rather than the actual mafia calling itself. in fact i was listening to her. but i talked about apples and she responded with talking about oranges. yes she really did.
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On October 07 2015 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Well, I'm done telling her story; she can do it perfectly well herself  Voice mafia this sunday? I know her story. It makes sense. I have talked with her about it already. However i didn't know her story then. That's why it didn't make sense. 
Voice mafia, sure. I can play today.
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Let's go to TS and talk bullshit now?
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On October 07 2015 22:56 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2015 22:53 Damdred wrote: While it might be true townies have a habit of cracking which isn't good... Its not exactly right or good when you know how to get them to crack to push them past those points.
Imo I never cracked this game due to being called mafia, I yelled at Marv for other things he yelled at me for other things. It was unfortunate and mafia unrelated.
Anyway yrah -plops on a damdy- ^^ i don't know why we're being blamed for being emotional anyway? i was tunneled by rayn for a very long time beforehand and managed okay @.@ ish and if damdy cannot be emotional as mafia, it's not his fault if we take his emotions as town indicators. it's not like he deliberately shows no emotion as mafia just to be read town and blaming ls at all is silly. i think you know that, rayn well i guess it's good i am quitting then i think.
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On October 08 2015 00:47 Rels wrote: rayn I feel very bad that you're quitting The two towngames we played together were sooo cool and we owned scum in both I hope you'll come back soon you're hoping for something that will not happen unfortunately. but you'll get an invite if/when i host/organize a game. You play well. No bullshit, only mafia. I like it
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Not gonna lie Rels, you are the best player i have seen join TL mafia this year, for sure.
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Like you are not necessarily the best town/scum player, but you are really good as town, and when you play scum you are like... "uncatchable" (not literally -- you know what i mean). Your scumplay goes to the same category i have never seen from people except for HF, DP and wbg (Palmar to an extent). It is a really big compliment. You should appreciate it.
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Just wait a year or two when people start lynching you for "you don't have 15 pages of filter on D1" or "noone else can pull this off as mafia". Then you will come to the same conclusion.
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First you start o not care as scum, then you start to not care as town either because people are dumb.
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Oh my apologies. kitaman should be in the list aswell.
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On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote: bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad my town play is not exactly good wit this portion of players. I fail to understand most of them and i come to wrong conclusions because of it.
Also my win% is pretty low i guess. Regardless of what alignment i am / what i do.
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On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit.
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On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit.  that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot. If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :> It is not the point though. I can't make myself lynch mafia or "mafia" over people who are just not playing the game. I got really stressed and angry with this game for said reasons. When i had a break and got back to here, i tried to avoid that, when (now) it's getting back to me it's not good for me and it's not good for anyone else aswell.
I can't help it, i am a logic guy, when the logic prevails, i wanna lynch (or i get angry -- usually both). It's sad. I don't want that.
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marv & JAT, i really did that when i got back. I got lynched for it. I like winning, i hate losing. People would not listen to me even after i got lynched. What am i supposed to do?
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Like i literally did play better. I found more mafia. People didn't lynch mafia, instead they lynched me. It annoys me.
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On October 08 2015 01:20 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv & JAT, i really did that when i got back. I got lynched for it. I like winning, i hate losing. People would not listen to me even after i got lynched. What am i supposed to do? I don't know. This is a problem that won't go away because there will almost always be people in the game who do dumb stuff. Well i will solve it by not playing except for playing with people i wanna play with.. .who are not shit.
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On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit.  that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot. If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :> The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc. that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town. you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia.
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On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote: rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia. I take a step forward and just quit.  that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot. If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :> The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc. that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town. you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia. I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible. I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces). except for you. you are listened to, always.
For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long.
idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately.
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On October 08 2015 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2015 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: First you start o not care as scum, then you start to not care as town either because people are dumb. Maybe you should stop thinking that high of yourself because although you are clearly a good player you have some awful awful reads from times to times - in a sense that a laid back Marv could see why shining was scum on day one and you simply gave him a town pass. Being logical =\= being smart, although being smart requires being logical. This is not a game just about logic. If you want to play with logic, you should try sudoku not going to answer this shit.
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