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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 29 2015 13:26 GMT
#801
I just went ahead and plucked out a few quotes:
On September 29 2015 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada


Marry me

On September 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase
Please explain, I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here?

I mean, yeah, I'd just like to have you explain this post please ^^


i see you bby

you know it

me and my third eye of amaze. or am i wrong and you're not being the gb acolyte, just trying to imitate the finer whiskies?

(is that how you spell they plural for whisky? o.0)


He is not my acolyte, he is my successor

On September 29 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....


Ok I have a couple of terrible town reads

On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend

i have a good voice, maybe?
i might be funny.
i enjoy walks.

enough?


Rayn who is with you in your scum qt?

All of these posts are very bland. Like they're supposed to be banter but it's almost a sea of gray as if GB is forcing(?)/faking(?) the banter.

Which just made me more suspicious when he started focusing on Trfel/Damdred straight away. I don't know GB's meta too well so I'm not sure if he's normally this focused or not. The thing is that he did bring two good points on Trfel and Damdred.

This combination of not being sure about GB's meta and how he's bringing up good things made me town lean him for a while.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 29 2015 13:36 GMT
#802
I'll compile why I think Trfel is mafia. I dropped the "funny then serious then funny" stuff 'cause I don't think it is scum indicative.

1 - His scumread of rsoultin has weird bases; seems to me he decided to scumread rsoultin but doesn't know why he's doing it

The timeline is the following:
A - rsoultin is scum for having a weird reaction to Trfel's first post and not leading the thread forward. I thought this vote was a joke, but apparently not.
On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada
Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia.

Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread.

##vote rsoultin


B - rsoultin is scum for ???
On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
btw truffle nope ^^ i only skimmed it cause yawn lol you can keep your shitty vote
Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now.....

But I can't decide if I should push or wait.....


C - rsoultin is not scum anymore
On September 29 2015 09:38 Trfel wrote:
Basically my argument against rsoultin kind of doesn't work. I assumed that rsoultin had a certain reason for doing stuff and had a certain interpretation of why I was asking what I asked, but I was wrong.

So basically I dunno.


D - rsoultin is scum for focusing too much on Trfel's and GB's "baits" ... I think
On September 29 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase


oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle?

all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive

i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol ><
Basically, GlowingBear made this one post purely to generate discussion. His other posts before this post that you made were serious posts.

The post you quoted, the "I'm town" post, does nothing to promote discussion at all. My opening posts also didn't end up creating any discussion.

Basically, your post claims that my opening posts actually had a purpose and created discussion, and GlowingBear was actually succeeding at making provocative posts. Both claims I disagree with.

Hm, but now that I think about it I don't think that this is a good argument

Wow, I'm really bad at this.


I don't understand this rsoultin read progression. It really feels like Trfel decided rsoultin was scum but had a hard time finding the reason why. It is scum indicative 'cause mafia do exactly that; they decide who to scumread and who to townread for strategic purposes, then look for things that makes their targets townie or scummy.

2 - This post attacking LS, who was complaining people weren't playing seriously the game
On September 29 2015 07:21 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....
If you don't like the direction that the thread is going in, shouldn't you do something about it instead of just commenting?

I've explained why it doesn't make sense here:
On September 29 2015 17:32 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:21 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....
If you don't like the direction that the thread is going in, shouldn't you do something about it instead of just commenting?

OK this post is terrible for two reasons:
- it's 20 minutes into the game
- LS WAS the only person trying to do serious stuff at the time

Here are several posts LS made pushing the game forward before this "LS if you want a serious game do something about it" Trfel post:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada
Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia.

Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread.

##vote rsoultin

Policy lynching her already? Oh please I thought that post was funny from her lol.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend


:/

if you're town i would have thought this position was already filled

you wound me deep, damdy

deep

Are you implying Damdred could be mafia for that?

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend


:/

if you're town i would have thought this position was already filled

you wound me deep, damdy

deep

Are you implying Damdred could be mafia for that?


nope

Then what were you implying there?

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....

So Trfel, show me how you could have thought LS didn't "do something about it instead of just commenting"

This point is null if Trfel can explain why he thought LS wasn't tryharding. But I'm not seeing an explanation.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 29 2015 13:40 GMT
#803
It is scum indicative 'cause mafia do exactly that; they decide who to scumread and who to townread for strategic purposes, then look for things that makes their targets townie or scummy.

how often do you see examples of mafia actually scumreading someone and then making themselves look really stupid with the subsequent explanations?

not often i wager

sure mafia decide who they are going to town/mafiaread for strategic purposes, but they then usually decide the reasons as well so what happened to Trfel doesn't happen

i grant you it's a strange thing, but you're not selling its scummyness to me right now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 29 2015 13:41 GMT
#804
On September 29 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I just went ahead and plucked out a few quotes:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada


Marry me

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase
Please explain, I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here?

I mean, yeah, I'd just like to have you explain this post please ^^


i see you bby

you know it

me and my third eye of amaze. or am i wrong and you're not being the gb acolyte, just trying to imitate the finer whiskies?

(is that how you spell they plural for whisky? o.0)


He is not my acolyte, he is my successor

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....


Ok I have a couple of terrible town reads

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend

i have a good voice, maybe?
i might be funny.
i enjoy walks.

enough?


Rayn who is with you in your scum qt?

All of these posts are very bland. Like they're supposed to be banter but it's almost a sea of gray as if GB is forcing(?)/faking(?) the banter.

Which just made me more suspicious when he started focusing on Trfel/Damdred straight away. I don't know GB's meta too well so I'm not sure if he's normally this focused or not. The thing is that he did bring two good points on Trfel and Damdred.

This combination of not being sure about GB's meta and how he's bringing up good things made me town lean him for a while.

Oh OK. For me this kind of posts are 100% NAI, I focus on other things. But I understand your mechanical read.
And I didn't like GB attacking you as soon as you came back to the thread, before you had a chance to answer.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 29 2015 13:44 GMT
#805
i have already explained my read on GB.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 29 2015 13:45 GMT
#806
On September 29 2015 22:40 marvellosity wrote:
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It is scum indicative 'cause mafia do exactly that; they decide who to scumread and who to townread for strategic purposes, then look for things that makes their targets townie or scummy.

how often do you see examples of mafia actually scumreading someone and then making themselves look really stupid with the subsequent explanations?

not often i wager

sure mafia decide who they are going to town/mafiaread for strategic purposes, but they then usually decide the reasons as well so what happened to Trfel doesn't happen

i grant you it's a strange thing, but you're not selling its scummyness to me right now

I agree it's stupid. It is the most likely explanation though; how do you explain town Trfel keeping his rsoultin scumread even after admitting his first reason was bad ? I mean, his first reason was so bad I dismissed the post as a joke.
The only explanation for town Trfel to do that is if he is joking with rsoultin, like getting her angry on purpose for humour.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 29 2015 13:46 GMT
#807
I suppose "teasing" is the word I was looking for
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 29 2015 13:47 GMT
#808
It's not that I attacked before he could answer. He had done a scummy thing and I was expecting he would come back to the thead scumreading me. He didn't.

You don't simply raise suspicions on someone and ignores it to vote Marv just because damdred was voting. Nor you come back to the thread and the guy you were being suspicions is suddenly a town read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 29 2015 13:47 GMT
#809
Actually Trfel does that as mafia. I have not seen it like this "easily" but that's exactly the reason i caught him in that one game which name i forgot, the game where he was mafia with rsoultin & Hopeless.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 29 2015 13:49 GMT
#810
On September 29 2015 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Trfel does that as mafia. I have not seen it like this "easily" but that's exactly the reason i caught him in that one game which name i forgot, the game where he was mafia with rsoultin & Hopeless.

what did he do exactly?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 29 2015 13:50 GMT
#811
On September 29 2015 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Trfel does that as mafia. I have not seen it like this "easily" but that's exactly the reason i caught him in that one game which name i forgot, the game where he was mafia with rsoultin & Hopeless.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia I suppose ?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 29 2015 13:52 GMT
#812
yeah i'm not actually gonna *read* it, i just want a precis
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 29 2015 13:56 GMT
#813
On September 29 2015 22:47 GlowingBear wrote:
It's not that I attacked before he could answer. He had done a scummy thing and I was expecting he would come back to the thead scumreading me. He didn't.

You don't simply raise suspicions on someone and ignores it to vote Marv just because damdred was voting. Nor you come back to the thread and the guy you were being suspicions is suddenly a town read.

Yes, and as I explained, both of these statements are wrong.

I have a question for you GB. Were you serious when you said that rayn looked scummy early on in the thread?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 29 2015 14:01 GMT
#814
On September 29 2015 22:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On September 29 2015 22:47 GlowingBear wrote:
It's not that I attacked before he could answer. He had done a scummy thing and I was expecting he would come back to the thead scumreading me. He didn't.

You don't simply raise suspicions on someone and ignores it to vote Marv just because damdred was voting. Nor you come back to the thread and the guy you were being suspicions is suddenly a town read.

Yes, and as I explained, both of these statements are wrong.

I have a question for you GB. Were you serious when you said that rayn looked scummy early on in the thread?


Yes, i was serious, although he started acting more townie later. I'm not really caring for him to be fair
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 29 2015 14:03 GMT
#815
On August 16 2015 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 16 2015 01:25 rsoultin wrote:
On August 16 2015 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
guys... guys.... guys...we should really lynch Trfel.


rayn...rayn...rayn...i have issues with him but i'm trying to understand what it is about that post that you hate so much? is it just that condor was a lurker when he said he didn't want to lynch lurkers?

No it's like he approaches the whole Hopeless and deconduo as whole.
Here is the post:
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On August 13 2015 11:00 Trfel wrote:
On August 13 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 10:56 Trfel wrote:
On August 13 2015 10:55 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 10:54 Trfel wrote:
Hard claiming mafia

Come and lynch me!!!


-flicks- why don't you just answer the question instead of being a troll
Which question?


damdred's

why voting condor over hopeless? the votecount you posted doesn't really clear that up any @.@
Most of it is because deconduo is scummy, Hopeless1der is null.

Deconduo is more active, but he spent most of his posts arguing about one thing that VisceraEyes said and not changing his opinions based on what other people said. He seemed extremely stubborn, and then used mechanics as a defense only after other people jumped on it.

I really don't like unflipped association analysis. I don't really care who I'm voting with, especially on Day 1 (though it is nice to be against ruXxar).


Like he says "deconduo has played a shitton of games, i would expect him to do something". If you go to the database and look at the "most games played, you'll find out that:
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...
Hopeless1der 33
Artanis[Xp] 32
Foolishness 31
slOosh 31
VayneAuthority 31
deconduo 30
...

It's like, he calls deconduo mafia because deconduo is a vet and should know better "how to play", except that Hopeless has played MORE games than deconduo, and deconduo has been inactive for like what.. two years? In fact Hopeless is the one who "should know better" here.

It's hard to explain but the approach as a whole doesn't make any sense at all.

Another thing is this:
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On August 14 2015 15:16 Trfel wrote:
Maybe Chezinu, depending on what he does next.

Maybe prplhz, I need to read his filter again tomorrow.

Maybe rsoultin? I've kind of been ignoring her?

I need to take a closer look at what ruXxar's saying.

Artanis is looking a bit better, but I'm still concerned..... Same with Damdred.

I don't really feel like filter diving tonight.

There are two massive red flags here in this post.

First one is that Trfel has literally no scumreads at all.

The second one is the bolded red part. Notice he is talking about a guy who he has called mafia ALL GAME LONG (before Hopeless flip). Yet he doesn't somehow remember what ruxxar has posted and done. It's basically impossible he is telling the truth here. The logical conclusion for nayone who has read anything ruxxar has posted is that ruxxar is town. Yet he is somehow incapable of making the conclusion.

I don't believe that.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 29 2015 14:03 GMT
#816
He basically forgot everything a guy had posted, a guy who he had called mafia all game long.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 29 2015 14:07 GMT
#817
gotta go buy some beer for sauna, be back in ~15.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 29 2015 14:07 GMT
#818
ok. i'm not sure how/why that's the same though?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 29 2015 14:08 GMT
#819
Oh yeah, before i go;
MoosyDoosy could you explain in detail why you are scumreading me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 29 2015 14:09 GMT
#820
On September 29 2015 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
ok. i'm not sure how/why that's the same though?

It's like he says one thing then suddenly he says something completely different when anything should really have not changed in his opinion.
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