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Day 3 Recall List MoosyDoosy (3): Rels, GlowingBear, raynpelikoneet The Shining (2): sicklucker, rsoultin (0): sicklucker (0): Not listed (3): rsoultin, LightningStrike, The Shining Tonight, I will be banning MoosyDoosy permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. | ||
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Day 3 Recall List The Shining (4): sicklucker, MoosyDoosy (2): Rels, raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin (0): sicklucker (0): Not listed (2): rsoultin, The Shining Tonight, I will be banning The Shining permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. | ||
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Day 3 Recall List The Shining (4): sicklucker, MoosyDoosy (2): Rels, Rels (1): rsoultin raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin (0): sicklucker (0): Not listed (1): The Shining Tonight, I will be banning The Shining permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. | ||
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Day 3 Recall List The Shining (3): GlowingBear (3): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, rsoultin MoosyDoosy (1): Rels, Rels (0): raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin (0): sicklucker (0): Not listed (1): The Shining Tonight, I will be banning The Shining permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. | ||
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Day 3 Recall List The Shining (3): GlowingBear (3): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, rsoultin MoosyDoosy (1): Rels, Rels (0): raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin (0): sicklucker (0): Not listed (1): The Shining Tonight, I will be banning The Shining permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. | ||
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Day 3 Recall List The Shining (2): GlowingBear (2): MoosyDoosy (2): Rels, Rels (0): raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin (0): sicklucker (0): Not listed (1): The Shining Tonight, I will be banning The Shining permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The spirits recall list is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. | ||
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Night 3 6 October 2015 Arnhem, Gelderland, the Netherlands Artanis smiled as guests piled into his home for his party to celebrate finishing his degree. His sister had the bar set up and was happily pouring drinks for their friends. It was no small wonder, as the last few weeks of uni had been excruciating for him, but now that it was all behind him, it was time to let loose, at least before the real world hit him in the rear. A few feet away, Shining was enjoying himself hitting on the ladies left and right. But for the second straight night, he ran into Koshi who didn’t take too well to seeing his nemesis. “What the hell are you doing here?” muttered Koshi. “Stay the hell out of my face.” he retorted at him. "Lex has hired some security...you want a piece of this?” yelled Koshi, holding up his fist. “Why not? I could use a little practice.” “Practice? For what? Not like you’re going to get anywhere with your fighting.” muttered Koshi. That's when he decided he’d had enough. “That’s it, rat bastard. You're going down.” he replied to Koshi. “Don't think so considering the amount you drink and smoke, dipshit.” yelled Koshi. Throwing down his cigar and removing his gloves, Shining immediately went for Koshi with an uppercut to the jaw. Whilst some partygoers scattered, others gathered around on the large back porch and cheered the two combatants. Shining doubled over, allowing Koshi to fall off the table he started to approach him on, and as he tumbled down, he kicked Koshi in the shin and bolted for the far end of the yard. Koshi got back up and frantically searched for projectiles, but seeing none, he spotted Fidei drinking with a svelte blonde nearby. Just as she was about to give him a lap dance in a dark corner of the yard, Koshi grabbed the nearly empty beer bottle out of Fidei's hand and chased Shining to the far end. “FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!” screamed the crowd as Shining jumped back on top of a table to gain a height advantage on his opponent. As he heaved his arms up however, Koshi immediately hurled the bottle, landing on his head and knocking him flat on the table. He then pounded him once in the stomach and then a second time in the face. “You want a piece of me? Who’s the dipshit NOW?!?!?” screamed Koshi. Koshi promptly knocked him out as Artanis attempted to calm everyone down. "Damn straight you can tell he had a little too much Jack Daniels to drink." The Shining, Jack Daniels (Mafia Vanilla), was knocked out! + Show Spoiler [Voting] + Final Day 3 Recall List The Shining (5): GlowingBear (1): MoosyDoosy (1): LightningStrike (1): The Shining, Rels (0): raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultin (0): sicklucker (0): I have banned The Shining permanently from the whiskey bar. Day 3 has ended. It is now Night 3. Please submit your night actions to Fidei86, KelsierSC and myself. There is no resolution period. Night 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). | ||
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Endgame 6 October 2015 Arnhem, Gelderland, the Netherlands I sighed as the fight cleared up. "You sure about that Koshi?" I said to him in passing. "I just saw him knock back six shots or so of Jack Daniels. And he wonders why he got knocked out." "Jack?" replied Koshi, "that shit tastes like skunk piss. Never ever drink American whiskey, Americans in general have shitty beer and spirits anyways. Almost anything is better than American whiskey." "Koshi," I replied as I strode past the police taking Shining out, "trust me, you're preaching to the choir. Their wines aren't terrible, actually I like them, but I'm fully aware American whiskey is beyond awful." I turned around and saw the police pull out two more bottles of whiskey the Shining had tried to grab - another bottle of Jack and a bottle of Talisker Storm. "You really can't fix stupid, can you?" snarled Koshi at Shining. MoosyDoosy, the Sullivan's Cove French Oak (Town Roleblocker), was spared. GlowingBear, the Talisker Storm (Town Vanilla), was spared. LightningStrike, the Talisker Storm (Town Vanilla), was spared. raynpelikoneet, the Talisker Storm (Town Vanilla), was spared. rsoultin, the Midleton Green Spot Single Pot Still (Wanderer), was spared. Rels, the Balcones Texas Single Malt (Mafia Framer), has conceded! sicklucker, the Suntory Yamazaki Single Malt (Mafia Roleblocker) has conceded! Town Victory! Carbost, Isle of Skye (Observer QT) is here. Suntory Distillery, Osaka (Mafia QT) is here. Role and Action List is here. I leave it to the discretion of shadows/players whether they want to release their individual shadow QTs. I would like to thank everyone for playing and congratulations to the town on their victory. Cheers Kelsier and Fidei for helping with co-hosting and a shoutout to Kelsier for the Day 3 flavour! Also thanks to Blazinghand who helped with balance and mechanics. A special shoutout to Damdred who was the first player in Obs QT to nail the scumteam in full. Please stick around for post-game analysis and conversation. Closing action (ie banlist) will be noted separately in the banlist thread. | ||
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On October 07 2015 07:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also, as a general note, I honestly did not read the oP which is again my fault but there's that. I still don't really know what the townblocker does so if anyone would care to help...? For future reference in a no coaching game, if you have any questions on a blue role AS a blue role. 1 Ask the mods the specs - you did that in one of your PMs so that was fine. 2 Reference mafiascum - they give you the most basics strategy on how to approach your role. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:03 GlowingBear wrote: Emotion can be faked and I've seen people catching fake emotions all the time 100%. Just look, LS immediately townread sicklucker and Shining for that... | ||
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In the latter stages of the game it becomes a little more obvious with flips whom to roleblock but it's something to consider. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:03 MoosyDoosy wrote: Hts I think scum team showed there hand and they lost the draw if I'm right. Four people tried to push off shining including shining. There's no way all three sxum aren't in shining, GB, rels and sl Sl was most obvious this eod attacking people for voting his top scum read which dissapeared magically. Moosey has to be rb over rels so rels is scum and shining is being pushed off of. If town is smart they auto win at this point. 164 scott31337Person was signed in when posted 10-06-2015 06:00 PM ET (US) MMM this post from damdred is pretty sexy Damdred had the entire scumteam nailed as soon as he died via strongman. Good on him. And much agreed with Trfel, he in my eyes was MVP. He lacked thread pull and interestingly enough was more influential through his death because of that. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:00 Rels wrote: So the game from my mafia perspective: I made a terrible mistake fakeclaiming a roleblocker. I was so sure I could get Moosy lynched I didn't care about future implications; and future implications meant that if my partners were caught, I would be left alive with Moosy and lose 1v1. Since Shining then sicklucker were caught, my mistake backfired hard and we lost. )= We also made a mistake a few hours ago. SL and I adviced The Shining to not say anything; that was while GB was being pushed. If he had entered the thread that moment with angry posts, I'm pretty sure Moosy was the lynch. Talking about the "angry post meta" fucking thing. I really felt we were fucked by that at some point. Like "Damdred is conf town because he's angry" and "LS is conf town because he screams at me" is bullshit meta. Nothing to do to counter that. Even I got townread by rayn because of a stupid rage post. I feel this really needs to stop for mafia to have an even chance to fight; and for this to stop, the players in question needs to improve their scumgames. Finally, blues. Fucking blues. I was so mad at them the moment Moosy claimed roleblocker p: like if Moosy was VT, the game was 100% won. It also was probably won if I didn't idiotly fakeclaimed though. (= Last words, I had a ton of fun playing this game. See you in the next one (= Several comments on this. I already commented on the emotion. As for blues being lynchbait, I cannot tell you how many times this has happened. Whenever I've rolled mafia, I've been coached/told/warned you ALWAYS need to make a backup plan for if someone claims, you either need to be prepared to counterclaim them or you need to have more mislynch options beyond your blue lynchbait. The mistake you made here as mafia was that you put your eggs in one basket (Moosy) or had only one plan that depended on him being town vanilla. Otherwise you and the crew did an excellent job and had enough people fooled. Scumside isn't easy and requires grit, intuition and adaptability. I was very prepared for a last minute shennanies on MoosyDoosy - and as he was the ONLY kp stopping role it would have given you lot a Mafia victory, direct. | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:13 GlowingBear wrote: The fact that he died instead of Rels or Rayn pointed out to him being correct in most of his reads. I had to go back and read him again. As I said to rsoultin, truffle is not my acolyte, he is my successor  100% | ||
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On October 07 2015 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't. I don't read your posts when you do stupid stuff jsut for the sake of doing stupid stuff.. It's irritating and doesn't help anyone. It's just stupid if you are town. You were really townie throughout the game, especially on N2. I don't understand why you have to do some dumb reaction tests because it just cannot help in any way, you just get scumread for it. Alright, the elephant in the room - this is NOT just at rayn but the townplay in general Day 1 and Day 2. Just hear me out please. I realise people are going to say LOL HTS, it's easy to say when you have perfect information, but the fact of the matter is: 1 Townies DO illogical things from time to time. You cannot assume that a townie will play optimally 100% of the time. Suboptimal play does not mean a person is EXCLUSIVE mafia. Vivax gave me GREAT advice in Gaiden - is someone's read progression/case/overall behaviour believable from their perspective, even if suboptimal? That is the way to look into stuff. There are people who play very lurky or whose towngames are very scummy because they are new (coolTLname) or don't know what they are doing (Moosy), etc, and it's really important to try and see things from their perspective. 2 VCA (voting analysis) speaks volumes. I was a bit surprised that it was not used or looked into as much. 3 I have been guilty of this - but some of you need to watch how you use meta to defend people. People were hard defending the mafia for poorly rooted meta reasons or altogether inexplicable reasons. It made it harder partially for town to work together. 4 Town needed to do a much better job of LISTENING TO EACH OTHER. THERE ARE THREE MAFIA IN THE GAME. You might feel very strongly about one mafia, but someone else might be paying attention to another player for whatever reasons. There was far too much shouting over each other, and marvellosity even said in obs qt that this was partially related to #3. 5 NK analysis. Shining was strongly implicated from the deaths of Marv and Trfel. GlowingBear caught on to it but failed to convince people. These are the things that stuck out most to me, but I feel that town could have worked a little better together the first few days simply by listening to each other and trying to understand the other perspective. Not everyone in every game is experienced as the other. And it makes it a bit more pleasant to play with others as well, foster an environment that makes people want to show they are town. | ||
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