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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:32 GMT
#3478
I don't care what he admits.
I care about:
Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?


Why do you have to dance around the question instead of jsut fucking answering it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:37 GMT
#3481
On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote:
rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch

but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room.
why does he do that as mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 11:45 GMT
#3484
On October 03 2015 20:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:36 rsoultin wrote:
rels dropping his read on truffle to push me is jumping on my lynch in my mind but since you apparently define it differently, apparently mafia didn't jump on my lynch

but he wasn't pushing you. instead after some time he gave you more room.
why does he do that as mafia?


he was pushing me @.@ even he says he was pushing me

you're still saying the sky is green

and i already answered this question. as mafia, with me making a huge stink about how he dropped his read on trfel to do this, he looks like shit when i flip town. is there some reason you're not reading my responses to you?

I don't think you are lying, i am not suggesting so. I just want you to be as clear as possible so there is no way to misjudge this -- when i say this:

So you think Rels is mafia. You think he is the only mafia pushing your lynch. Now let's assume Trfel is scum here. At the time the push on you starts there is - if i remember correctly - four votes on Trfel. Rels is mafia and hops onto you, from Trfel. You are the only counterwagon. It doesn't make any sense, especially considering later on Rels wants to give you more room.

So Trfel cannot possibly be mafia in this game if you are town, and should not ever be mafia for you in this game, unless you think i am mafia (which you don't). That should be your #1 reason for reading Trfel town regardless of what he has ever said in this game because if Trfel was mafia mafia WOULD have hopped on you with greater numbers and pushed your lynch more.

Somehow you can't realize this simple fact that if you are town Trfel must be town. And don't try to feed me with bullshit "but i think Trfel is town", i am telling you this should be your reasoning, at least part of it, yet it is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:03 GMT
#3487
On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote:
it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"

I am sorry but you have been scumreading Trfel on N1/D2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:07 GMT
#3490
Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this.
In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:10 GMT
#3491
On October 03 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote:
it's not just "i think trfel is town"

it's literally "i thought trfel was town all d1 and that's why i was looking for a lynch outside the two of us"

yes this would make sense if you had never scumread Trfel but that's not the case here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:14 GMT
#3493
On October 03 2015 21:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels' alignment has nothing to do with this.
In fact it should be even more clear to you that Trfel is town if Rels is not mafia.


-squints at-

so what you're really saying is that if trfel were mafia more scum should be trying to vote for me d1. that follows. lol you should have just said that

i was skeezed out by trfel asking me questions over and over, my answering them, and then him whining that i hadn't lol >< and got focused on that. you can think this makes me scum if you like but i'd think you of all people could understand how something not making sense can be distracting ^^

Yes that what i am saying, or rather i am saying YOU should be the one figuring that out easily since yo uare supposed to know you are town. If you are mafia, then, obviously none of this applies...

You even did wagon analysis (mainly on Moosy/Rels/shining) here, jsut some time ago.
Yet you leave out the most easily seen logical conclusion from your analysis (=because i am town, it must mean Trfel is town).

So, another scumpoint to you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:19 GMT
#3495
On October 03 2015 21:18 rsoultin wrote:
you know, rayn, one of these days you're going to learn that people not thinking the way you do is not a scumtell. once i decide someone's town, unless i'm defending them from people, i really don't look further than that

yeah but there is this thing that you thought Trfel is mafia at some point and did look into him further...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:28 GMT
#3501
So from what i have gathered from N1 and D2 (partly from D1 aswell) from you rsoultin is this:

- You didn't give any fucks about coolTLname when you imo should have. I am speaking of N1 here, you even went on defending him with factually incorrect argument. (see what i did there?) It's scummy.

- The way you "look into people further" is scummy. You are under pressure, marv says GB might be mafia -> suddenly there is a case (and a vote) on GB from you while you didn't care about the things you found him scummy for earlier, at all. sl brings up the voting behavior and I start discussing it with him on D2. Rels and Shining are under questioning for that -> suddenly you come up with "now i am looking into Rels/Shining" and you come to a conclusion that Rels looks really bad and shining is town, you don't even touch this voting behavior thing at all... Hmm no, actually that is not scummy, that is super scummy.

- You do voting analysis; you miss the most easily notable thing to you. That is scummy.

That was your N1 -> D2.

I think you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:30 GMT
#3502
On October 03 2015 21:25 rsoultin wrote:
like you can insist that i should never have suspected him in the first place, but honestly the same could be said for him. the reverse is true, is it not? if he's town and i'm scum shouldn't scum be piling on him? including me? yet he suspected me anyway

The reverse isn't true in any way, because you (mafia) and coolTLname (mafia) suddenly ended up on GlowingBear (town).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:33 GMT
#3504
On October 03 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
okay here's my problem

like, i'm down to moosy and trfel

and moosy/gb/rels are almost never ever going to be scum with cool...sicklucker seems rather unlikely as well given even though he didn't push as much on cool as the other three, the only one left is truffle and he did push hard on him

basically, to believe in a cool = mafia world, you have to believe that he's being bussed since d1 @.@ or that his two scummates for whatever reason decided to attack each other in the middle of the day phase

it's just not very likely, is it?

idk, care to explain what for example this post is if not voting analysis?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:39 GMT
#3507
nope. it doesn't work that way when the other wagon is pushed by GlowingBear and you are pushed by marv/rayn.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:43 GMT
#3510
I am not going to argue with you on this because it doesn't help at all.
You are scum and i don't argue with scum.

You can read my case on N2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:47 GMT
#3513
Because anyone who is scum (when rsoultin is scum here) who voted for Trfel looks like absolute garbade if rsoultin flips. Which is quite likely in case marv/rayn are pushing her.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:48 GMT
#3515
So instead they most likely ignored the push (shining), or are bad (coolTLname).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:51 GMT
#3517
On October 03 2015 21:49 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because anyone who is scum (when rsoultin is scum here) who voted for Trfel looks like absolute garbade if rsoultin flips. Which is quite likely in case marv/rayn are pushing her.


mm maybe, but that still doesn't explain why i didn't vote for trfel, does it?

huh.. because you hard townread him, so you literally can't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 12:55 GMT
#3520
no no, you don't even believe that yourself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 15:36 GMT
#3543
On October 04 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:
No. In this question, the scummy parts is that he is misrepresenting why I'm scumreading him + the fact that he ignored my questions several times is the scummy part
I also think he's scum because
- his push on GB was done on super bad reasonning
- he claimed to have been the one first voting and first pushing cool while it was me and GB; GB that he was pushing at the time
- he associated with shining and based his push d1 on cool on a shining post; while answering questions, he kept bringing up that shining and him were the push creator on coolTLname

isn't this all explained with the last thing?
or like associated with it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:22 GMT
#3645
On October 04 2015 00:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm back from my SAT 2 tests. Jesus christ the math was a stick in the butt. I think I did well on my Literature test though. If anyone cares, my ankle is getting better and I can walk although running and tilting the ankle hurts. Will read and catch up.

I can help you with math.
7 = 3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 03 2015 19:22 GMT
#3646
i am sorry i just had to do that.
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