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On October 03 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote:
okay, rayn, talk about reads time try to keep the bm down please
your main issue with cool is he said he had 7 votes on him before scott claimed...is there anything else?
i've read his filter, and apart from him claiming to have completely read the thread but still getting that detail wrong, i'm not really seeing whatever it is y'all are seeing in his play that has you guys thinking he's lock scum
point me to what i'm missing without demanding that i read your filter? you're on the list but i'm multi-tasking and i'd appreciate your cooperation
My case is very simple:
On October 02 2015 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, again, for ANYONE who is willing to do so i am telling this;
You can take any argument coolTLname has ever provided against me in this game and i will prove it is either a lie or him not reading the thread. If i can't do that, you can lynch me, hell i will even vote for myself. And do not twist shit if you are gonna argue with me about this.
So, any takers? If not, can we just lynch him?
For someone who praises that people who:
1) lie
2) do not read the thread
are mafia, the accusation i provide here is pretty damning. I am not going to quote basically every single post in filter from the first 72 hours of the game. If you want to ask about some of them / all of them, do that.
Right now i have had zero questions about this (this is including coolTLname himself....).
I hope people do not ask stupid questions if they do, and if they do, i assume - as always - that they have read the thread.
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Every single post where he writes anything about me, as i said.
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1. he says you're lying because trfel and i were lynch targets. in context you clearly meant that there was no time where scott, cool and i were the main wagons at the same time, however you post doesn't actually say that. this looks like a simple misunderstanding
Don't be an idiot. The conversation i had, where the post is taken, is ALL ABOUT "scott, cool and rsoultin being the main wagons".... -> not reading the thread.
2. this is certainly untrue. it's also easily explained by seeing the votes after the fact with no timestamps, btw
pretty clear shit.
3. he really did never say anything about wanting to be voted down over scott, so yes, you got that wrong and that would appear to be a lie to him
oh but he did.
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On October 03 2015 09:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:1. he says you're lying because trfel and i were lynch targets. in context you clearly meant that there was no time where scott, cool and i were the main wagons at the same time, however you post doesn't actually say that. this looks like a simple misunderstanding Don't be an idiot. The conversation i had, where the post is taken, is ALL ABOUT "scott, cool and rsoultin being the main wagons".... -> not reading the thread. 2. this is certainly untrue. it's also easily explained by seeing the votes after the fact with no timestamps, btw pretty clear shit. 3. he really did never say anything about wanting to be voted down over scott, so yes, you got that wrong and that would appear to be a lie to him oh but he did. i just read his filter rayn @.@ from top to bottom quote it or let it go
He says he wanted to get lynced. That's what he said. Later on he says he didn't want to get lynched over scott (who was the opposing wagon) because he suspected scott. But he never suspected scott. In fact he suspected ME the most, and i was pushing scott's lynch ALL D1. So i find it really hard to believe what he is saying.
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On October 03 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote:
please don't call me an idiot. when you're not explicit with what you're saying, rayn, it can be misunderstood and it looks like that's what happened. why would he zero in on that as scum knowing what you meant, either? scum's not going to say the sky is red and expect people to believe them lol ><
Ge read the conversation where the post is taken from.
If you have read the conversation, you have no doubts what i am talking about.
The post is just taken out of context for no reason.
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On October 03 2015 09:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote:
please don't call me an idiot. when you're not explicit with what you're saying, rayn, it can be misunderstood and it looks like that's what happened. why would he zero in on that as scum knowing what you meant, either? scum's not going to say the sky is red and expect people to believe them lol >< Ge read the conversation where the post is taken from. If you have read the conversation, you have no doubts what i am talking about. The post is just taken out of context for no reason. no i do understand what you were talking about? but i don't see why scum does that, is the point, rayn. even if he is scum, he still probably misunderstood
Well he himself claims "mafia are people who don't read the thread".
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Like i can understand a mistake or two.
But when EVERY SINGLE THING HE SAYS is a "mistake", that's too much.
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His D1 and N1 is literally devoted to "rayn is mafia because he is lying and not reading the thread". Literally.
Am i supposed to believe he is town when - again - every single thing he says about me during those 72 hours is either lie or him not reading the thread properly?
Like this isn't so hard Tina, why are you making this so hard?
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On October 03 2015 09:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 09:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
His D1 and N1 is literally devoted to "rayn is mafia because he is lying and not reading the thread". Literally.
Am i supposed to believe he is town when - again - every single thing he says about me during those 72 hours is either lie or him not reading the thread properly?
Like this isn't so hard Tina, why are you making this so hard? mostly because this isn't really the case...he was talking about other things both d1 and n1, rayn. you have to realize that you're emotionally invested in this read and you focus on tiny things, while i am not and i tend to focus on the big picture. both have their place
I don't care if he was talking about other things, that's not what i am arguing about.
I am arguing about his top scumread -- me.
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I would like to hear your case on Trfel Tine, when you have time.
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Mmmm i have another game that starts about now so i'll probably leave this thread.
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On October 03 2015 10:52 coolTLname wrote:
Ive caught rayn in numerous lies and hes just tunneling hard on me because hes angry and super narcissistic , so he will never refute his claims.
Has asked to prove even a a single one. Doesn't.
Meanwhile...
On October 03 2015 09:09 coolTLname wrote:
## vote glowing bear
good night frands
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On October 03 2015 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
scummy
rels - while i like that he seemed to evaluate me just fine and with a particular neutrality, i have a very big problem with his reason for scumreading cool, not to mention his pissing off and placing his vote on a random player not being voted and not returning until much later. his original reasons weren't bad, but now he's focused on this horrible he's not really a newbie thing, he's actually a smurf cause of what he said about gb not reading the thread? cool never said that. moreover the "knowing" gb thing is bad as well, given cool's explanation was fine. rels could not believe it, but someone as intelligent as he is i would think would be pushing cool for much more relevant reasons (and they do exist)
I would like you to explain how you come to this conclusion when your top townread thinks pretty much the exact same thing?
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Can you link the games you checked?
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idk, his scumgame seems super different from this game.
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And The Shining seems to show a distinct lack of knowledge for LightningStrike's play, and since they've played several games together I'm pretty sure, I don't think that The Shining's early scumread on LightningStrike is very believable.
Can you explain this further?
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No Trfel it might be valid, what did you see?
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On October 03 2015 18:31 Trfel wrote:
The Shining seems to assume that LightningStrike and raynpelikoneet would read GlowingBear the same way, that doesn't seem reasonable. Even from reading a little bit of this game, it should become clear that LightningStrike and raynpelikoneet have different styles, which would lead to different methods of how to read people.
where does he say that?
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idk. If you have one of us town (me) and one of us scum (LS), in my opinion it is natural to ask from their townread about it, you know like "why do you think this guy thinks otherwise".
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