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On October 05 2015 01:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 06:24 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:22 coolTLname wrote:On October 04 2015 06:09 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Meh we are definitely hitting a townie
Whatever I don't think so On October 04 2015 06:20 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:18 Damdred wrote:
What changed gbs mind from hard scum reading cool to town reading him The fact that everybody is OK lynching him, and that a bus for two days is unlikely And u think a bus for two days is likely? A bus day 1 as well? No I think it's unlikely. Actually that's why I switched yesterday. But my scumread on you is stronger than this idea now. -sighs- you know tbh rels i kind of had been hoping i was wrong when i went back to look but this was your last post about cool before he posted the wall. clearly you reacted to his post and you're misrepresenting your play now, and while inconsistency is not something exclusive to mafia players, when describing your own read progression and thought process i find it very hard to believe you don't remember that his post was what made you think he was town ><
wow you found a post, went "haha I found a slip!", and posted this "I'm so sad to be right but here it is"
without even trying to look for the post I was talking about
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On October 05 2015 01:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 01:35 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 06:24 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:22 coolTLname wrote:On October 04 2015 06:09 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Meh we are definitely hitting a townie
Whatever I don't think so On October 04 2015 06:20 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:18 Damdred wrote:
What changed gbs mind from hard scum reading cool to town reading him The fact that everybody is OK lynching him, and that a bus for two days is unlikely And u think a bus for two days is likely? A bus day 1 as well? No I think it's unlikely. Actually that's why I switched yesterday. But my scumread on you is stronger than this idea now. -sighs- you know tbh rels i kind of had been hoping i was wrong when i went back to look but this was your last post about cool before he posted the wall. clearly you reacted to his post and you're misrepresenting your play now, and while inconsistency is not something exclusive to mafia players, when describing your own read progression and thought process i find it very hard to believe you don't remember that his post was what made you think he was town >< why does gb get "town points" for saying that cool was town when he's openly admitted that he believed no such thing? either his cool is town gambit was really a reaction test gambit and he never believed cool was town, and decided not to take into account that a wagon didn't build when he gave people the opportunity to switch or he's lying about doing a reaction test at all, meant the "cool is town" thing, then went right back to voting him and trying to keep the lynch on him where are these town points you're talking about? I was talking about this post: On October 04 2015 05:37 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:
Oh god , rels is scum reading me for the worst reasons. First it was because im a smurf LOL? i think everyone here would laugh at that. and then Im a lurker reader? Do u even know how boring just reading a game is? I admit i have tried it , but barely got past 1 page.
LS seemed pretty relax when i posted earlier about what ppl do for a living , he was like Yeapp i was watching worlds and shit..
GB is super chill
and it would be super sick if SL was mafia but i think i just want that to be true so i wont comment
And the damdred CC is still pretty suspicious, he also just pops in and out while always being present in thread, not sure if thats obvious from just reading his filter.
I'd say Rels damdred and GB
and if rayn is scum then.. not sure GB and damdred?
OK. Even if coolTLname is not a lurker reader, I cannot believe this medic bait can possible comes from town. Especially one who has play a newbie here before that's a strong scumread and you already said in the post that i quoted that the bussing d1 and marv's opinion weren't enough and you still thought he was scum "lessened" or not, you were not discussing other lynches despite having scumreads, and you still reacted oddly to a large post of nothing i could understand it if cool posted an actual will, but he didn't
Whatever I explained my thought process. If you don't believe it nothing I can do.
I discussed other lynches, and I was willing to switch to either of them. And if you and others had followed, we wouldn't have lynched coolTLname. Actually what you just described is similar to something you did that is suspicious; willing to lynch Moosy or I, willing to mount one against the other, but not willing to switch at deadline when your hard townread did. You were willing to switch to GB but not to Moosy.
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On October 05 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:38 Rels wrote:
GB gets town points because one of the only things he did yesterday was try to push a switch on Shining, who I think he's town. There is no way GB is scum with Shining. a reaction test he never intended to follow through on or he's lying about the reaction test try again
Wow wait wait wait wait. Did he say his whole "I'll follow you Trfel on pushing Shining" was a huge reaction test ? I understood that the "I don't think coolTLname is mafia but I'll vote him anyway" was the reaction test.
There is nooooooooooo town points if there Shining push was just a test.
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On October 05 2015 01:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 01:38 Rels wrote:
GB gets town points because one of the only things he did yesterday was try to push a switch on Shining, who I think he's town. There is no way GB is scum with Shining. a reaction test he never intended to follow through on or he's lying about the reaction test try again Wow wait wait wait wait. Did he say his whole "I'll follow you Trfel on pushing Shining" was a huge reaction test ? I understood that the "I don't think coolTLname is mafia but I'll vote him anyway" was the reaction test. There is nooooooooooo town points if there Shining push was just a test.
and actually that could indicate he's partner with Shining, preparing a bus for next day
What did he say to make you think that ? Cause I thought he was talking about the "coolTLname is town but I vote him" post
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On October 05 2015 01:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:48 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 01:47 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 01:38 Rels wrote:
GB gets town points because one of the only things he did yesterday was try to push a switch on Shining, who I think he's town. There is no way GB is scum with Shining. a reaction test he never intended to follow through on or he's lying about the reaction test try again Wow wait wait wait wait. Did he say his whole "I'll follow you Trfel on pushing Shining" was a huge reaction test ? I understood that the "I don't think coolTLname is mafia but I'll vote him anyway" was the reaction test. There is nooooooooooo town points if there Shining push was just a test. and actually that could indicate he's partner with Shining, preparing a bus for next day What did he say to make you think that ? Cause I thought he was talking about the "coolTLname is town but I vote him" post oh i don't know maybe just the part about he was never going to lynch anyone but cool, or the part where he was screaming at people to stay on cool you know those amazingly beautiful contextual things that make it obvious what he's referring to
yeah I find it weird he was like that when he was like "coolTLname is town" all day
but I really thought the whole "I'll push Shining with you Trfel" was real
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On October 05 2015 01:48 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:45 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 01:41 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 01:35 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 06:24 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:22 coolTLname wrote:On October 04 2015 06:09 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Meh we are definitely hitting a townie
Whatever I don't think so On October 04 2015 06:20 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:18 Damdred wrote:
What changed gbs mind from hard scum reading cool to town reading him The fact that everybody is OK lynching him, and that a bus for two days is unlikely And u think a bus for two days is likely? A bus day 1 as well? No I think it's unlikely. Actually that's why I switched yesterday. But my scumread on you is stronger than this idea now. -sighs- you know tbh rels i kind of had been hoping i was wrong when i went back to look but this was your last post about cool before he posted the wall. clearly you reacted to his post and you're misrepresenting your play now, and while inconsistency is not something exclusive to mafia players, when describing your own read progression and thought process i find it very hard to believe you don't remember that his post was what made you think he was town >< why does gb get "town points" for saying that cool was town when he's openly admitted that he believed no such thing? either his cool is town gambit was really a reaction test gambit and he never believed cool was town, and decided not to take into account that a wagon didn't build when he gave people the opportunity to switch or he's lying about doing a reaction test at all, meant the "cool is town" thing, then went right back to voting him and trying to keep the lynch on him where are these town points you're talking about? I was talking about this post: On October 04 2015 05:37 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:
Oh god , rels is scum reading me for the worst reasons. First it was because im a smurf LOL? i think everyone here would laugh at that. and then Im a lurker reader? Do u even know how boring just reading a game is? I admit i have tried it , but barely got past 1 page.
LS seemed pretty relax when i posted earlier about what ppl do for a living , he was like Yeapp i was watching worlds and shit..
GB is super chill
and it would be super sick if SL was mafia but i think i just want that to be true so i wont comment
And the damdred CC is still pretty suspicious, he also just pops in and out while always being present in thread, not sure if thats obvious from just reading his filter.
I'd say Rels damdred and GB
and if rayn is scum then.. not sure GB and damdred?
OK. Even if coolTLname is not a lurker reader, I cannot believe this medic bait can possible comes from town. Especially one who has play a newbie here before that's a strong scumread and you already said in the post that i quoted that the bussing d1 and marv's opinion weren't enough and you still thought he was scum "lessened" or not, you were not discussing other lynches despite having scumreads, and you still reacted oddly to a large post of nothing i could understand it if cool posted an actual will, but he didn't Whatever I explained my thought process. If you don't believe it nothing I can do. I discussed other lynches, and I was willing to switch to either of them. And if you and others had followed, we wouldn't have lynched coolTLname. Actually what you just described is similar to something you did that is suspicious; willing to lynch Moosy or I, willing to mount one against the other, but not willing to switch at deadline when your hard townread did. You were willing to switch to GB but not to Moosy. i didn't switch to gb, either. i was trying to figure out what he was doing, and i was the only one really doing that and not reacting like a jumping bean, btw
And BTW I found it was super obvious he was like "fuck nobody wants to lynch Shining I guess I'll default to coolTLname", so I don't know what was scummy about that
What was scummy was him proclaiming it was a plan
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On October 05 2015 01:53 rsoultin wrote:
so now your story is that scum with a mislynch set on cool are gonna buss each other for lolz to set up a reaction test
Yes of course
GB's push if it was real definitely means he's town if Shining is mafia, as he had NO way to know people wouldn't all agree and switch to Shining, especially with Trfel, rayn and I bringing up points against him
GB's push if it was a reaction test and he never meant to lynch Shining doesn't mean shit about his alignement
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On October 05 2015 01:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:55 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 01:53 rsoultin wrote:
so now your story is that scum with a mislynch set on cool are gonna buss each other for lolz to set up a reaction test Yes of course GB's push if it was real definitely means he's town if Shining is mafia, as he had NO way to know people wouldn't all agree and switch to Shining, especially with Trfel, rayn and I bringing up points against him GB's push if it was a reaction test and he never meant to lynch Shining doesn't mean shit about his alignement this is why even as a reaction test the likelihood that they're scum together is practically nill
Mm that's true
That explains all the weird things I found about him at EOD
Cool (=
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On October 05 2015 01:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:On October 04 2015 06:53 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:49 GlowingBear wrote:On October 04 2015 06:46 Rels wrote:
OK coolTLname is probably town
Let's switch LOLWUT? You just said the guy is lurker reader. He is only posting a case on me NOW close to deadline when people are arguing about lynching me. In other words, he is clearly lurker reader??? And this is clearly orchestrated? Lol if you guys switch to me and let cool TL live AGAIN I can't say much about your stupidity. Dude You said the whole time there was NO way mafia would bus two straight days Gogogo I didn't mean it? Dude the guy has all the scum traits a human being can have. and you're saying you didn't know that he was scumreading cool and the "reaction test" was referring to voting shining? bullshit, lol. he responded this way to your question
LOL you are very good at forgetting posts. He said this during D2:
On October 04 2015 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool TL will flip town, Rels. Who would you lynch over him?
On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Meh we are definitely hitting a townie
Whatever
As you can see, one of these is a question to me, so your "he answered directly to you you should have known" is bullshit.
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I don't know why I'm talking to you. Each time I come with a proof of what I think you find a scum explanation for what I could have been thinking instead.
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you really are super frustrating to play with p:
Like here, until 2 minutes ago, I thought his Shining push was real, and the reaction test was the "I think he's town but I voted him anyway" part. When I realized I've been fooled, I immediately thought he could be mafia, until you made me realize it doesn't matter if it was a reaction test or not.
Why are you even doubting the fact that I thought the Shining push was genuine ? Why do you have this need of looking for scum motivation on everything I do ? And how the fuck would me lying about the fact I thought GB was not reaction testing when he pushed Shining is scum indicative ?
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On October 05 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:
nope, it's really not
okay, rels ^^
i will concede that there is a remote possibility that in reading all the posts where GB said that he never had any intention of lynching anyone but cool, and screaming for people to keep lynching cool in big bold letters when y'all were switching to shining
was somehow lost upon you
And how is the fact that:
- I thought it was a genuine push
- So I said it was weird he was not willing to switch at deadline
is not making sense ?
Like you can be annoying and doubt the first one like you're doing now. Where is the scum motivation ?
The fact that he screamed in big bold letters is what I found weird about him yesterday, since I believed the first assumption.
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On October 05 2015 02:12 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 02:07 Rels wrote:
you really are super frustrating to play with p:
Like here, until 2 minutes ago, I thought his Shining push was real, and the reaction test was the "I think he's town but I voted him anyway" part. When I realized I've been fooled, I immediately thought he could be mafia, until you made me realize it doesn't matter if it was a reaction test or not.
Why are you even doubting the fact that I thought the Shining push was genuine ? Why do you have this need of looking for scum motivation on everything I do ? And how the fuck would me lying about the fact I thought GB was not reaction testing when he pushed Shining is scum indicative ? i looked to find indications that you had been in fact wavering on your cool scumread before that post. there were none. you said there were case closed you see, rels, gb's play shouldn't be townie to you. first you say he's town because of townreading cool (which is bullocks anyway because scum can townread town, but we'll ignore that for now), and now you say he's town because of putting his vote on shining all that his vote on shining indicates is that they couldn't be scum togetherit doesn't make gb town, and in fact the quotes you just quoted are very odd for a supposed reaction test, aren't they? you accuse me of being biased, but you don't question gb's questionable behavior because you're determined to call shining scum
1 - exactly. They can't be scum together. And since I think Shining is scum, I think GB is town.
2 - I POINTED EXACTLY THAT IN THE POST THAT STARTED IT
On October 05 2015 01:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 05 2015 01:16 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 23:59 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 23:27 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
I'm sorry, I tried to explain that coolTLname was town.
If I were better at this game I would have been able to explain it.
CoolTLname, I'm sorry. I really tried.
I think that no lynch here might be the right play, actually. Let's go with that.
And I think Rels might get a permanent townread because he's the only person in this game that I've actually enjoyed playing with. I'd rather lose to mafia!Rels than lynch him, honestly. meh idk like why is his assumption when a huge post full of fluff gets posted near EoD that the player must be town? OK rsoultin please read the following very carefully. You are a very annoying person to play withYesterday I've made a number of things, things that Trfel that you consider confirmed town kinda did as well; and each time, you found a reason mafia!me would do it. I said I would lynch Shining or Moosy, maybe Shining before Moosy; you thought it was scummy. But when "confirmed town" Trfel says he wants to lynch Shining, he's still town. I thought coolTLname as a bused mafia wouldn't make these giant posts before dying; and you think it was scummy. But when "confirmed town" Trfel fought for people not to lynch coolTLname, he's still town. Please stop bias confirming every action I make as mafia. the how is more important than the what, rels. i'm not sure about you. that may bother you but it is what it is. the fact of the matter is that to me truffle is all but confirmed town, both in how he's played the entire game and in how the votes fell when we were the two being pushed for lynch d1 that you don't grasp that i didn't see how your evidence for your shining vs. your evidence for moosy resulted in you wanting to lynch shining first, and that you couldn't explain it to me beyond "he's not posting as much" when just a simple look through the database (if you don't believe the rest of us) would show that shining will never post as much as moosy, is blah it's unworthy of your intelligence as for the thing with cool...maybe that's something a town player can see in his post, i don't know. the way you reacted seemed unnatural to me, especially for someone who was apparently so certain that cool was mafia. truffle already that cool was town so from him i can see it more, but for you to completely reverse your read based on a giant "will" post that was no more than summarizing things for pages... i don't get it maybe you should explain it instead of whining that i'm not treating you equally when you're not equal with truffle i knew he was town when he posted it again, because for some unknown reason he thought it was important enough to do so when he was definitely dying, but it looked a lot like a substanceless hail mary to me and i have a hard time seeing people who are scumreading him and aren't purely emotional, surface-level intellect players reacting the way you did sorry if this comes off condescending. i frankly think it's beneath you, though, and i know you're a very rational person because i coached you OK you're going to have explain very carefully why my lynch order is important when it concerns two people that are not being lynched right now. Especially since I voted Moosy over Shining at deadline, and I was ready to vote for the both of them. You're wrong about the "active" stuff. Relative to their style, I feel like Shining is much more quiet than Moosy. Not talking about filter length here, but activity. You're wrong about the coolTLname stuff being too sudden too. I have a post near deadline where I admitted that he was actually not a lurker reader; it was a comment on his that made me think that, when he said "that's bullshit I actually tried to read a game and I didn't even get past 1 page". It's too real to be false. So my scumread on him was lessen by that + Trfel and GB (and marv D1) repeating all day that we were definitely lynching a townie. So what do you think of Trfel and GB continuously repeating that? Definitely town for Trfel. Town points for GB BUT I have no idea why GB acted like that at deadline: - giving up on pushing Shining over coolTLname, voted coolTLname and saying at the same time he was town: understandable. No way this was a fucking plan, and I have no idea why he felt the need to explain it that way - saying all day coolTLname's lynch was on a townie, then not willing to switch with Trfel and I
So I think he's town because of 1; so I found weird all this big bold letter scumreading coolTLname.
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Are you fucking serious
you are now saying I should find this "GB is hard scumreading coolTLname at deadline" suspicious
When I fucking did ???
I think he's town 'cause he cannot be together with Shining
But I noted what I found weird about his attitude
What is your fucking point anymore ??????
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On October 05 2015 02:12 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 02:07 Rels wrote:
you really are super frustrating to play with p:
Like here, until 2 minutes ago, I thought his Shining push was real, and the reaction test was the "I think he's town but I voted him anyway" part. When I realized I've been fooled, I immediately thought he could be mafia, until you made me realize it doesn't matter if it was a reaction test or not.
Why are you even doubting the fact that I thought the Shining push was genuine ? Why do you have this need of looking for scum motivation on everything I do ? And how the fuck would me lying about the fact I thought GB was not reaction testing when he pushed Shining is scum indicative ? i looked to find indications that you had been in fact wavering on your cool scumread before that post. there were none. you said there were case closed
OK believe what you want. My scumread on him was based on the fact that he couldn't have done that medic bait post as town. Why this attitude was so bad was:
- he's a lurker reader, so he should know it's useless
- even he's a real newbie, I don't see how he could think that is a good idea
If you don't see how me admitting the first assumption is false ... well, you're frustrating.
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On October 05 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 02:13 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:
nope, it's really not
okay, rels ^^
i will concede that there is a remote possibility that in reading all the posts where GB said that he never had any intention of lynching anyone but cool, and screaming for people to keep lynching cool in big bold letters when y'all were switching to shining
was somehow lost upon you And how is the fact that: - I thought it was a genuine push - So I said it was weird he was not willing to switch at deadline is not making sense ? Like you can be annoying and doubt the first one like you're doing now. Where is the scum motivation ? The fact that he screamed in big bold letters is what I found weird about him yesterday, since I believed the first assumption. i've explained what i find scummy about you already; you just misrepresented your mindset preceding cool's so-called "will" and your townread on gb is very questionable. in order for me to believe what you're saying here, i have to believe that you're not being analytical not only just in the moment, but also well after the fact. take it as a compliment that i find that as doubtful as i do  there's a very simple associative scum motivation for all this but i'm not going into that right now
I'm not analytic because I thought it the "coolTLname is town but I vote him" thing was the reaction plan instead of the whole thing ?
Well whatever. Either you think I'm lying and you find a proof; or you think I tell the truth and you explain how me missing that the Shining push was the plan is scum motivated.
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On October 04 2015 05:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 05:57 sicklucker wrote:On October 04 2015 05:50 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 05:47 sicklucker wrote:On October 04 2015 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 04 2015 05:37 sicklucker wrote:
Now we justt gotta find the last one. in a coolt/trefel world a fake claiming dandred makes some sense which is why im curious of dandreds reaction here. but there is many other options reeeeels ya acualy its pretty much just rels because everyone else voted coolt ? who did you vote day 1 again So I was the first to push and vote my teammate, and would have stayed here until the end when I had no way to know damdred would counter claim ? That's stupid me and rayn were the first to push him. I love how you keep throwing that you were the first to vote him tho Don't remember that, added to the to check pile
OK sicklucker when I said I was the first to push coolTLname, you said rayn and you were the first to push him.
Rayn confirmed it's false from his side:
On October 04 2015 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 05:58 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 05:57 sicklucker wrote:On October 04 2015 05:50 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 05:47 sicklucker wrote:On October 04 2015 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 04 2015 05:37 sicklucker wrote:
Now we justt gotta find the last one. in a coolt/trefel world a fake claiming dandred makes some sense which is why im curious of dandreds reaction here. but there is many other options reeeeels ya acualy its pretty much just rels because everyone else voted coolt ? who did you vote day 1 again So I was the first to push and vote my teammate, and would have stayed here until the end when I had no way to know damdred would counter claim ? That's stupid me and rayn were the first to push him. I love how you keep throwing that you were the first to vote him tho Don't remember that, added to the to check pile afaik i did never push coolTLname on D1.
The first post about your read on coolTLname was this one:
On September 30 2015 11:14 sicklucker wrote:
and this cool guy so far has openly role hunted and claims to read me after 1 game that im pretty sure never happened (i never played with this guy before) And you want to talk about me as trefel? I remember when everyone thought you were the second coming of jesus
My post about coolTLname is 14 hours earlier:
On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:This first post by coolTLname is super scummy. It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread. Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up. Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand. Plus, he next post is scummy too: Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?
Can medics heal themselves? Two useless questions. After that he posted one more time and gtfo.
So you were not to push on coolTLname.
Can you point me to the post that made you think rayn was joining your push on coolTLname ?
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On October 05 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:Not impatient. Just practical. 1 hr is enough time for you to give thoughts and answer questions. As it is, we're running out of time and if you die and I'm Mafia, what will you do? (;
will post my thoughts at deadline no worries
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