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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 12:08 GMT
#2523
fuck forgot to buy smokes.

brb, jsut because this scumNAMEtlguy likes it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 12:19 GMT
#2526
On October 01 2015 21:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 18:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ofc Damdred is town, there is no question about it.

Would we really have gotten two 1 shot trackers though?

I don't care about that.
I care about the fact that if he is fakeclaiming here he has to be mafia with coolTLname, right?
Okay let's assume this is true. He fakeclaims and scott gets lynched. What happens next?
If Damdred does not die during the night he is very very likely to be mafia. coolTLname will most likely die on D2 anyways (like everyone realizes this)... Instead of bussing he decides to make himself look like shit when he is townread by basically everyone in the game..

why? It doesn't make any sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 12:22 GMT
#2528
rsoultin is definitely mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 12:23 GMT
#2530
I did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 12:45 GMT
#2540
On October 01 2015 21:37 rsoultin wrote:
i'll double-check that as well...i'll admit this is impressions and i haven't verified it yet, i just don't remember you being the main force behind it

what have you actually read in this game because you don't seem to remember anything?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 13:36 GMT
#2546
no you are not.
LS will never read the thread if anyone is around.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 13:41 GMT
#2548
55 pages in 37 minutes, that makes ~1,5 pages / minute.
30 posts / minute, around 2seconds / post.

Are you sure you are reading the thread? I mean like reading, not "reading".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 19:06 GMT
#2609
On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets".

this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece.

On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread.

i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way.

On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum;

1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott
2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..
3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide).


My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch.

On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival.


Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game.

I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute.

I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him.

Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw.



I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now.


Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia

Except everything i said was true, what he said is not true.
he didn't even manage to read the posts he answered.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 19:16 GMT
#2611
I'm trying really hard to be cool right now..
Can someone just vig that guy?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 19:28 GMT
#2613
no, not really. i don't waste my time on bullshit.

maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction.

I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.

Here is a post where scott claimed:
On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote:
I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway.

I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey.
I'm hard claiming.

Here is the votecount at that time:
On October 01 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, Rels, scott31337
GlowingBear (3): rsoultin, Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, scott31337, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (3): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy
raynpelikoneet (1): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
Rels (0): rsoultin
marvellosity (0): rsoultin, Damdred, MoosyDoosy
MoosyDoosy (0): marvellosity
scott31337 (3): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, sicklucker

Not listing (1): The Shining

Now you can go back and look at your sentence again.
Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you.

You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3.

thank you for your time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 19:32 GMT
#2614
In the above post i took HtS' vote count from :11 and matched the votes up until :39, when scott claimed.
That's why there is for example Moosy in (two places). The fact however is that coolTLname was at that time at 3 votes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 19:36 GMT
#2615
I am waiting for you to prove the statement 7 = 3 because otherwise you are a liar and as per your own definition should be lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 19:46 GMT
#2618
On October 02 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote:
there was a cc...read before you flame

if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames.


This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show.

Actually you are right here.. hmm..
I remember Moosy having totally unreasonable responses to the phase changes / near phase changes when he was scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 19:53 GMT
#2621
On October 02 2015 04:48 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I just got home and WHY DID YOU FUCKING LYNCH SCOTT WHEN HE HAD CLAIMED ! SHOT TRACKER? I going to read now but I very pissed at you guys for lynching him.....


Another guy who wasn't even around at EoD and didn't read but chose to get all upset and yell. LS did have an excuse for not being around EoD but these reactions just don't feel too genuine.

Yeah it makes sense. Like does he just look at the flip and assume we just decided "scott is not tracker but lying" without anything else happening or what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:08 GMT
#2628
One of my problems with rsoultin is that she doesn't really have any reads. She just doesn't. She goes like (i added GB here);
- GB says stuff about Trfel/Damdred -> rsoultin doesn't care
- rayn says stuff about J Roc and other people -> rsoultin doesn't care
- stuff happens
- marv makes a case on rsoultin -> suddenly huge burst of posts and much caring
- rayn agrees -> rsoultin calls rayn scum because i am "itchy" and she "can't get a read on me" (when actually it's just --- she didn't care to have a read on me)
- rsoultin is, or by thread sentiment is becoming the main wagon -> suddenly rsoultin DOES care about the stuff about GB, which she didn't care about before
- things on coolTLname, J Roc for example -> rsoultin doesn't care to discuss them

like she just cares when it's beneficial to her in terms of not getting lynched, and it looks constructed as hell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:18 GMT
#2635
On October 02 2015 05:14 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 11:22 coolTLname wrote:
Whatever, i honestly wanted to get lynched because playing with rayn was pretty distasteful. Calling him mafia does not warrant huge shit talking. Hopefully he gets a warning at least


Lol its rayn and this is a game, you've got to learn to take things with a grain of salt. And I didn't really views your willingness to get lynched as this but more as demotivated scum giving up. You only came back to attempt to vote Scott with the rest of us last minute, even though it didn't count. If you wanted to get lynched, you wouldn't have tried to get on that wagon but would have truly just afkd EoD.

The worst thing in that post is that he acts like a cocky bastard towards me when everything he says is completely untrue. Then when i give back what i think people doing that deserve, he goes crying into a corner because "rayn is mean".

I am not unreasonable towards reasonable people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:19 GMT
#2636
On October 02 2015 05:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One of my problems with rsoultin is that she doesn't really have any reads. She just doesn't. She goes like (i added GB here);
- GB says stuff about Trfel/Damdred -> rsoultin doesn't care
- rayn says stuff about J Roc and other people -> rsoultin doesn't care
- stuff happens
- marv makes a case on rsoultin -> suddenly huge burst of posts and much caring
- rayn agrees -> rsoultin calls rayn scum because i am "itchy" and she "can't get a read on me" (when actually it's just --- she didn't care to have a read on me)
- rsoultin is, or by thread sentiment is becoming the main wagon -> suddenly rsoultin DOES care about the stuff about GB, which she didn't care about before
- things on coolTLname, J Roc for example -> rsoultin doesn't care to discuss them

like she just cares when it's beneficial to her in terms of not getting lynched, and it looks constructed as hell.

maybe
but it's not really true that she doesn't have reads, she have strong townreads that she stated several times

who gives a fuck about townreads if you can't produce even ONE scumread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:19 GMT
#2637
not to even mention... in over 20 pages of filter.
Like what is she doing in this game? What? scumhunting?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:28 GMT
#2651
On October 02 2015 05:23 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 02 2015 04:43 The Shining wrote:
On October 01 2015 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 01 2015 08:03 rsoultin wrote:
there was a cc...read before you flame

if i go back and see that you guys handled it improperly, there will still be flames.


This and all the preceding posts seem a bit forced. I would assume everyone that is town would be upset over EoD and a blue lynch but I don't see the purpose of this anger. You weren't even around for EoD so do you really have a right to be this mad? Feels more like just a show.

Actually you are right here.. hmm..
I remember Moosy having totally unreasonable responses to the phase changes / near phase changes when he was scum.


Which game was that? I'd like to compare. Sorry I just now realized you guys are actually responding to my catch up posts lol

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly

D1 end. GB and Moosy's top townreads are only viable lynch candidates. GB claims doctor. I have been pushing Moosy's top townread all game. He asks ME "fuck rayn, what do we do"???? Like isn't it obvious what do we do in my opinion.

D2 start. i counter-claim GB. Moosydoosy is "convinced that neither of the claims is mafia". That is his first impression, when the claimed doctor did not even die during the night.

D3 start. rayn dies. Moosydoosy starts yelling "lol rayn townread me", when in fact i had scumread him ALL GAME, and made a post where i stated "okay let's assume you are town for the rest of the night phase, jsut so i can have a reasonable conversation with you".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:29 GMT
#2653
There was also something else i quoted to geript on TS at soem point but i forgot about it and do not really care to search.
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