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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 16:25 GMT
#3559
On October 04 2015 01:19 rsoultin wrote:
Tbh i'm not sure how these two reads are equal to you given the evidence you've listed.

I think the fact that Trfel said he would come back with points on shining s read on GB and LS is also part of why I think that. Like I spent the whole morning talking with Trfel and rayn about shining
As said, I would lynch Moosy over anyone but coolTLname, and maybe shining. So I don't see why you re pushing me over such a small thing, even more so when neither of them are the lynch right now
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 16:26 GMT
#3560
What is your reasonning behind your push on that ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 16:27 GMT
#3561
If you think Trfel is town, why is me suspecting shining at the same level as moosy is suspicious for you, when Trfel thinks shining is mafia ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 16:30 GMT
#3564
On October 04 2015 01:27 Rels wrote:
If you think Trfel is town, why is me suspecting shining at the same level as moosy is suspicious for you, when Trfel thinks shining is mafia ?

That doesn't make sense. You quoted damdred s read of shining to counter me; but you omitted to talk about "confirmed town" Trfel's one
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 16:35 GMT
#3566
:p
I'm on a train so I will have phase where I don't have internet anymore. And there will be phase where I'm reading a book :p
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 16:45 GMT
#3571
On October 04 2015 01:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 18:18 Rels wrote:
OK Trfel. Please follow me.

I made this post about Moosy's suspicions of GB:
On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.

I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.


Then I realized:
On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:
ACTUALLY
On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.

I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID


Now I realize someone can think I am scumreading Moosy for not being here at EOD with this post. But I am not: I have never said that, and I have explained multiple times this didn't do anything for Moosy's alignement:

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On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:
ACTUALLY
On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.

I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID

lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time.

I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott

On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:12 Rels wrote:
ACTUALLY
On October 02 2015 04:56 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Thoughts on EoD:
The three people who come off looking worse: Rels/LightningStrike/GlowingBear.

Rels looks super scummy from EoD. The last we same of him, he dropped his scum read on rsoul before leaving. When he came around during EoD all he did was lurk and sheep different things that people were throwing out, noticeably rayn. While this behavior is scummy in and of itself, Rels also normally pursues his target with a stubborn single mindedness so this is very uncharacteristic of him.

LightningStrike needs to do stuff. He’s too inactive and he hasn’t been giving anything original.

I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa.

I agree with the bolded BUT I disagree it makes GB scum. I think he was the only one not on scott explaining why he would not switch. A mafia who wouldn't want to vote a blue claim that he knows is true would just shut up and pretend to not be here.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID

lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time.

I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott

Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early?

WTF
you might want to reread what I wrote

Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"

I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch"
Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"
Got it ?

On October 02 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[quote]
lol Rels. As I said, I have to go home around that time ALWAYS. If you read the thread, I already explained this to rsoultin. Look at my past games where I always leave for 1 hr around that time.

I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott

Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early?

WTF
you might want to reread what I wrote

Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"

I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch"
Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"
Got it ?

Yes, you're implying I shut up, not voted scott, and came back after the lynch. Which, as I explained, is just false. Then in your response you say: "Oh I wasn't referring to you I'm talking about how this makes GB scummy".

When literally right before you were saying GB couldn't be scum.

I never said this makes GB scummy.
I also said you might want to reread what I wrote.
So you might want to reread what I wrote
Because I said the opposite

hm...didn't see the "wouldn't". Either way, I already explained that I go home at around this time ALWAYS. You can look at previous games to verify this.

It's not super important, my point is that your push on GB was stupid
I will check it regardless, rayn just listed a mafia game of yours

On October 02 2015 05:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[quote]
Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early?

WTF
you might want to reread what I wrote

Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"

I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch"
Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"
Got it ?

Yes, you're implying I shut up, not voted scott, and came back after the lynch. Which, as I explained, is just false. Then in your response you say: "Oh I wasn't referring to you I'm talking about how this makes GB scummy".

When literally right before you were saying GB couldn't be scum.

I never said this makes GB scummy.
I also said you might want to reread what I wrote.
So you might want to reread what I wrote
Because I said the opposite

hm...didn't see the "wouldn't". Either way, I already explained that I go home at around this time ALWAYS. You can look at previous games to verify this.

It's not super important, my point is that your push on GB was stupid
I will check it regardless, rayn just listed a mafia game of yours

"It's not super important?" So you scum read me for it, then brush it aside once I explain it away? ok.

yes it is not super important
I explained what GB would have done if he was mafia: shut up and wait for deadline
Then I realized you did exactly that, so I was excited
But it doesn't mean anything since you could just be busy

On October 03 2015 00:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.

lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearly
B. lack of focus on his scum reads

I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.

you're lying
I never said you not being here at EOD was scum indicative. I said GB being here at EOD and not switching was town indicative because he would have shut up at EOD; then remarked it was ironic since you did exactly that.
I'm attacking you on two things:
- your GB's EOD analysis is bullshit
- you lied about being the first to vote and push coolTLname
Now the problem I have with you as scum is that you would be busing coolTLname D1, which I don't think is likely. Hence why I'm not sure about you.



I am scumreading Moosy for other reasons, but it's unrelated to this.

Now Moosy made this post:
On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.

lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearly

B. lack of focus on his scum reads

I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.

I thought the bolded refered to me thinking him not being here at EOD was scum indicative.
- If that's the case, Moosy is clearly mis interpreting my scumread on him
- If that's not the case, I have no idea what he is talking about and this could be a lie

He said it was not the case, but didn't precise:

On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.

lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearly

B. lack of focus on his scum reads

I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.

What were you talking about then ?

lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check.

Question 1 What do you think Moosy was talking about, if it's not the fact that I thought him not being here at deadline is scum indicative ?

Since then I've asked the questions to Moosy each time I saw him in the thread, and he never answered.
+ Show Spoiler +

On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.

lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearly

B. lack of focus on his scum reads

I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.

What were you talking about then ?

lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check.

On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.

lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearly

B. lack of focus on his scum reads

I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.

What were you talking about then ?

On October 03 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.

lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearly

B. lack of focus on his scum reads

I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.

What were you talking about then ?

lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check.

Can you answer my request
I think point A is pointing at me saying ACTUALLY MOOSY DID EXACTLY THAT
Yes or no ?
If no, what is it pointing at ?
AFK for like one hour so I hope you'll have answered then

On October 03 2015 02:14 Rels wrote:
is one hour not enough to answer this ?
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 01:04 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 00:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is what i mean, here is what sicklucker means:

- your top scumread is coolname, let's call this 90 (bigger number is more scummy, numbers are arbitary)
- yout top #2 scumread is scott, let's call this 70
- you are, logically, voting for coolname
- scott claims, this would logically make his number go down to let's say 20
- marvellosity says coolname should not be 90, in fact he should be like 30.
- Damdred cc's scott - this would make scott go back to 70.

Now what makes marv's claim on cooldude so important you throw your 90 into the trash (this number is btw FOR his actions, not what other people think of him)? Why is what marv says so important you don't believe your scumread anymore? And what makes you think, in this situation, that scott is the best lynch?

I understand sheeping, i do that a lot, but you claim yourself you are not sheeping. So explain it.

lol I was saving this because this was my other line up. I actually think that Rels is highly possible to be Mafia here. One thing that I find very uncharacteristic of him in this game is that he is waaay too willing to sheep people. Normally when he grabs something he holds on tight to it and pushes all the way (similar to rayn but more tunneled). If you look at his previous games with me, Rels's initial scumread on me causes him to question me the whole game and I never rise above a null. Here he questions me, listens to my explanation, drops his line of questioning completely, and then leaves the thread. Same thing actually happened with rsoultin. Another thing I find disconcerting was how Rels was looking like he was trying to pin something on me earlier and tried to dig something up on me which was all literally stated in the pages before it and which I already explained. So:
A. he's not reading the thread clearly

B. lack of focus on his scum reads

I haven't actually looked into his scum game so rayn should confirm these as traits or not.

What were you talking about then ?

lol point A speaks for itself. you can literally go back and check.

Can you answer my request
I think point A is pointing at me saying ACTUALLY MOOSY DID EXACTLY THAT
Yes or no ?
If no, what is it pointing at ?
AFK for like one hour so I hope you'll have answered then


On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip

Day 1

scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips.

No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.

On October 03 2015 03:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip

Day 1

scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips.

No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.

that would make sense
Can you answer my request ?




Question 2 I think it's scum indicative. Do you ?

...lol.

ok. you participated in that discussion with me. it was you and me talking with each other. i say i said you were scummy for more than one thing. you're claiming i only said you were scummy for your screaming post about me acting strange. (btw, if you scream like that it shows that you're excited which means it's a scumread, so expecting me to read it as the opposite is pretty stupid). i think I know what i'm saying. If you disagree, go back and read the discussion again lol. Point A is that you're not reading the thread clearly. And you clearly haven't since you only drew one thing from it, which is incidentally, you expecting me to make a nonsensical conclusion that you read me as town when you scream that my behavior was scummy.

So part of the reason you scumread me is that you think I partly scumread you based on the fact you were absent at eod. That doesn't make sense, especially since ive explained multiple times why I never scumread you based on that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 16:45 GMT
#3573
On October 04 2015 01:40 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, lynch The Shining with me?

Or was I being really stupid last night?

Sshhh be quiet about that
You better say fast that you scumread moosy more or you will be in big trouble
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 16:50 GMT
#3578
On October 04 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 03 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:37 Trfel wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:24 Trfel wrote:
Rels, I'm sorry, I honestly have no clue. I don't think it's good to go through all of MoosyDoosy's filter and try to piece together what he was trying to say, that should be his job. Plus if he is mafia and this would catch him, you might find a more reasonable explanation than what he actually did. Why don't we just wait for him to explain what he was saying when he gets back?

As for if it's mafia indicative, I don't feel like he would reach for a scumread when there's no incentive for doing so and it can be clearly shown that he's wrong. Though honestly I had some trouble following your post, I've been reading this game very quickly and not to the level of detail that I would have hoped for. I'll check it again when I finish with this The Shining thing, I'm pretty excited about that honestly.

No the biggest scum indicator is that I did wait for him to answer. That's two times he is in the thread, I ask him to precise, and he doesn't do it.
I'm sorry, it's 5:30 AM and MoosyDoosy's arrogance makes it very hard for me to read him He's just always so freaking confident beyond logic, and I try to be as realistic as I can, the clash is quite hard for me...

My first thought is that his arrogance could lead him to just ignore you, especially if he was scumreading you at the time which I believe he was?

I'll try to take another look at it tomorrow, especially if you remind me, but I might not even have time to finish looking at The Shining

He's not ignoring me since the last time that he was in the thread, he answered a post of mine.
On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip

Day 1

scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips.

No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.


I wasn't answering this. You were just drawing the wrong conclusion.

So you were ignoring me ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:25 GMT
#3594
On October 04 2015 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
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On October 04 2015 01:53 Trfel wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:50 Trfel wrote:
I'm going to lynch The Shining with whoever wants to lynch scum, then.

Rels is actually working with me, so he gets a pass for today. Even if he's mafia, he's much more enjoyable to play with than some of these other people, and he does give the impression that he's actually trying to solve the game (even if he gives this impression as scum as well, though I didn't read his scum game).

I'll look at MoosyDoosy after.

Well here is his scum game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Rels
Thanks, I didn't realize that the database existed and that I could use filters myself

I also didn't realize that I could just use Rels' profile to find his most recent game easily, never done that before

Simply put, I don't care about anything other than The Shining right now. I might start caring later.

It was from my last game that why I was able to get it so fast.

:D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:27 GMT
#3596
On October 04 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 01:50 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:41 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:37 Trfel wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:
On October 03 2015 18:24 Trfel wrote:
Rels, I'm sorry, I honestly have no clue. I don't think it's good to go through all of MoosyDoosy's filter and try to piece together what he was trying to say, that should be his job. Plus if he is mafia and this would catch him, you might find a more reasonable explanation than what he actually did. Why don't we just wait for him to explain what he was saying when he gets back?

As for if it's mafia indicative, I don't feel like he would reach for a scumread when there's no incentive for doing so and it can be clearly shown that he's wrong. Though honestly I had some trouble following your post, I've been reading this game very quickly and not to the level of detail that I would have hoped for. I'll check it again when I finish with this The Shining thing, I'm pretty excited about that honestly.

No the biggest scum indicator is that I did wait for him to answer. That's two times he is in the thread, I ask him to precise, and he doesn't do it.
I'm sorry, it's 5:30 AM and MoosyDoosy's arrogance makes it very hard for me to read him He's just always so freaking confident beyond logic, and I try to be as realistic as I can, the clash is quite hard for me...

My first thought is that his arrogance could lead him to just ignore you, especially if he was scumreading you at the time which I believe he was?

I'll try to take another look at it tomorrow, especially if you remind me, but I might not even have time to finish looking at The Shining

He's not ignoring me since the last time that he was in the thread, he answered a post of mine.
On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip

Day 1

scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337

So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips.

No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.


I wasn't answering this. You were just drawing the wrong conclusion.

So you were ignoring me ?

When someone is misreading what both me and sicklucker said obviously I'm correcting you. And when you're clearly not reading our discussion properly then there's no reason for me to point it out until you go back and read it properly.

OK. This is going to be settled when I get to a computer IE tomorrow. Because I'm pretty sure it does not make any sense. And the fact that you are not answering a simple yes / no question is reassuring me in that direction
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:30 GMT
#3598
On October 04 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1?


DUDE

he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to!

like how the fuck do you not understand this?!

So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing.

Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?


apparently rels did not hop onto my lynch because rayn's world only consists of what happens at the end ^^ and that's assuming that rels is actually mafia

how should i know why according to rayn view mafia didn't hop onto my lynch? maybe they don't want to be associated with mislynching a town rsoul. they didn't pm me and tell me 'hey rsoul, we didn't jump on your wagon because x'

This is actually one of the reasons that I scum read Rels in my argument with him which he somehow didn't pick up on. He's very less invested in following the people he thinks are scum. He's already questioned me then acceded and went away. Very uncharacteristic of him when he normally tunnels harder than rayn.

Another lie. I did pick it up. I said that I had nothing to comment on because it was true. With me re evaluating rsoultin then leaving work then being unavailable to play until deadline d1, I didn't have time to do that. I will find the post to prove that.
Me picking on one inconsistent part of your read is different from me not acknowledging other parts of your read
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:33 GMT
#3600
On October 02 2015 05:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:04 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

So your lynch candidates are coolTLname AND the two persons that voted him before you ? And these two persons being:
- the one that was the first to put suspicions on coolTLname
- the one that didn't want to switch from coolTLname even with a counter claim
???????????

I gave explanation for GB. My point on you still stands. I do not see you pushing on coolTL at all.

Your point on me is true, so I can't say anything about that. But if you think coolTLname is scum, this GB's read is retarded. He was trying to get people to lynch coolTLname over scott! If he was mafia he would shut up and let things happen

Gotta go find somethimg else to lie about now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:35 GMT
#3601
I'm not lynching shining over coolTLname
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:36 GMT
#3604
Sure
You have 4 hours and a few
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:43 GMT
#3606
Nobody
I would lynch shining or moosy after him
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 17:56 GMT
#3608
On October 04 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 02:43 Rels wrote:
Nobody
I would lynch shining or moosy after him


If you would lynch both of them, why not lynching them now?

Because coolTLname is mafia
I'm sure he s a lurker reader. I was convinced by two slips he made about knowing the people playing here. And a lurker reader wouldn't play like that as town. Talking about the medic claim bait here
Trfel did a big a post about how nobody did that (reading games but not playing or talking). He gave Scott as an exception that was a lurker reader. He said that there was w orld of difference between Scott's play and cooltlname s play
Guess what:
1 - that is my point. A lurker reader woudlnt play like that as town
2- in my first game, I caught Scott as scum and made him lynch. I'll repeat: in my first game ever as a newbie, I caught him as scum and was the main force behind his lynch
Now about the "nobody does that": well, I'm the living proof that people DO that. In 2008 or so, II read some games in this forum, but never posted or asked for obs qt or anything. The best part: that is verifiable, as I had to ask for the permission to read this forum, so its one of my first post ever in this site
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 18:04 GMT
#3614
On October 04 2015 02:59 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 04 2015 02:56 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 04 2015 02:43 Rels wrote:
Nobody
I would lynch shining or moosy after him


If you would lynch both of them, why not lynching them now?

Because coolTLname is mafia
I'm sure he s a lurker reader. I was convinced by two slips he made about knowing the people playing here. And a lurker reader wouldn't play like that as town. Talking about the medic claim bait here
Trfel did a big a post about how nobody did that (reading games but not playing or talking). He gave Scott as an exception that was a lurker reader. He said that there was w orld of difference between Scott's play and cooltlname s play
Guess what:
1 - that is my point. A lurker reader woudlnt play like that as town
2- in my first game, I caught Scott as scum and made him lynch. I'll repeat: in my first game ever as a newbie, I caught him as scum and was the main force behind his lynch
Now about the "nobody does that": well, I'm the living proof that people DO that. In 2008 or so, II read some games in this forum, but never posted or asked for obs qt or anything. The best part: that is verifiable, as I had to ask for the permission to read this forum, so its one of my first post ever in this site


Yeah but a Mafia team wouldn't let him be the lunch for two consecutive days without doing nothing. And this is what is happening here

Well that was this exact thought that made me switch d1
How dumb are we going to be if he wins playing like that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 18:05 GMT
#3615
On October 04 2015 03:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 02:30 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1?


DUDE

he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to!

like how the fuck do you not understand this?!

So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing.

Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?


apparently rels did not hop onto my lynch because rayn's world only consists of what happens at the end ^^ and that's assuming that rels is actually mafia

how should i know why according to rayn view mafia didn't hop onto my lynch? maybe they don't want to be associated with mislynching a town rsoul. they didn't pm me and tell me 'hey rsoul, we didn't jump on your wagon because x'

This is actually one of the reasons that I scum read Rels in my argument with him which he somehow didn't pick up on. He's very less invested in following the people he thinks are scum. He's already questioned me then acceded and went away. Very uncharacteristic of him when he normally tunnels harder than rayn.

Another lie. I did pick it up. I said that I had nothing to comment on because it was true. With me re evaluating rsoultin then leaving work then being unavailable to play until deadline d1, I didn't have time to do that. I will find the post to prove that.
Me picking on one inconsistent part of your read is different from me not acknowledging other parts of your read

lol then you definitely know 100% that I'm not just talking about 1 part of my argument with you. Thank you for admitting it.

I have no idea what you are talking anymore. I tried to clarify stuff by asking you a simple question and I didn't understand the answer
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 18:11 GMT
#3617
On October 04 2015 03:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 03:05 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 03:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 02:30 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you think or do you not think Rels wanted to lynch you on D1?


DUDE

he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to!

like how the fuck do you not understand this?!

So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing.

Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?


apparently rels did not hop onto my lynch because rayn's world only consists of what happens at the end ^^ and that's assuming that rels is actually mafia

how should i know why according to rayn view mafia didn't hop onto my lynch? maybe they don't want to be associated with mislynching a town rsoul. they didn't pm me and tell me 'hey rsoul, we didn't jump on your wagon because x'

This is actually one of the reasons that I scum read Rels in my argument with him which he somehow didn't pick up on. He's very less invested in following the people he thinks are scum. He's already questioned me then acceded and went away. Very uncharacteristic of him when he normally tunnels harder than rayn.

Another lie. I did pick it up. I said that I had nothing to comment on because it was true. With me re evaluating rsoultin then leaving work then being unavailable to play until deadline d1, I didn't have time to do that. I will find the post to prove that.
Me picking on one inconsistent part of your read is different from me not acknowledging other parts of your read

lol then you definitely know 100% that I'm not just talking about 1 part of my argument with you. Thank you for admitting it.

I have no idea what you are talking anymore. I tried to clarify stuff by asking you a simple question and I didn't understand the answer

ok let me explain this.

A. you highlighted one ambiguous part of my post and said that I was scumreading you for you screaming about my behavior and how you were actually just reading me town.
B. I said that it was weird for you to expect me to know you were reading me town when you were screaming.
C. I also said that there was obviously more than one part to what I was scumreading you for so I didn't understand how you only got that from our argument
D. you asked me what these other parts were
E. point A was not reading the thread properly which is definitely what you are doing if you think I'm scumreading you for only one thing
F. you tunnel on me for not answering a question that you should know the answer to
G. you admit there are more points that can make you scum
H. i'm clearly right in that there are more points to scumread you as you just admitted

My question is "is the fact that I screamed that line at you still part of your case against me"
Yes no
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 03 2015 18:19 GMT
#3621
On October 04 2015 03:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 04 2015 03:11 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 03:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 03:05 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 03:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 02:30 Rels wrote:
On October 04 2015 02:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:35 rsoultin wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 03 2015 20:29 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

DUDE

he clearly wanted to part of d1 and then didn't want to!

like how the fuck do you not understand this?!

So he was not pushing your lynch then, because you can't be pushing and not pushing.

Again, why did mafia not hop on your lynch?


apparently rels did not hop onto my lynch because rayn's world only consists of what happens at the end ^^ and that's assuming that rels is actually mafia

how should i know why according to rayn view mafia didn't hop onto my lynch? maybe they don't want to be associated with mislynching a town rsoul. they didn't pm me and tell me 'hey rsoul, we didn't jump on your wagon because x'

This is actually one of the reasons that I scum read Rels in my argument with him which he somehow didn't pick up on. He's very less invested in following the people he thinks are scum. He's already questioned me then acceded and went away. Very uncharacteristic of him when he normally tunnels harder than rayn.

Another lie. I did pick it up. I said that I had nothing to comment on because it was true. With me re evaluating rsoultin then leaving work then being unavailable to play until deadline d1, I didn't have time to do that. I will find the post to prove that.
Me picking on one inconsistent part of your read is different from me not acknowledging other parts of your read

lol then you definitely know 100% that I'm not just talking about 1 part of my argument with you. Thank you for admitting it.

I have no idea what you are talking anymore. I tried to clarify stuff by asking you a simple question and I didn't understand the answer

ok let me explain this.

A. you highlighted one ambiguous part of my post and said that I was scumreading you for you screaming about my behavior and how you were actually just reading me town.
B. I said that it was weird for you to expect me to know you were reading me town when you were screaming.
C. I also said that there was obviously more than one part to what I was scumreading you for so I didn't understand how you only got that from our argument
D. you asked me what these other parts were
E. point A was not reading the thread properly which is definitely what you are doing if you think I'm scumreading you for only one thing
F. you tunnel on me for not answering a question that you should know the answer to
G. you admit there are more points that can make you scum
H. i'm clearly right in that there are more points to scumread you as you just admitted

My question is "is the fact that I screamed that line at you still part of your case against me"
Yes no

Yes. There is no way you can expect me to know you are town reading me when you are screaming about my behavior like you caught something.

Then you're not making sense
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